AnonD-258449, 03 Apr 2018Just one question from all of you.
Go through your galleries, and see how many night shots do... moreWhen you go darker, S9 will have an edge due to:
-Wider aperture lens which lets more light in
-Longer upper limit for shutter speed in Pro mode
-An ability to shoot in RAW
When it is handheld... well, you know which one is going to be the winner.
We don't need to "admit" that the inferior camera is better than clearly superior one - that's against the law of physics and obviously doesn't make sense.
Anonymous, 02 Apr 2018How exactly do you think that Samsung wins overall as a phone? The XZ2 has a better battery li... moreI do like Samsung on the performance side of things. They could better integrate their codes with their hardware because most of their hardware was theirs some in design and mostly on manufacturing. They have their own:
1. SoC (Exynos)
2. RAM modules
3. NAND drive (UFS)
4. Display (AMOLED)
5. Most of the batteries were produced by them.
With this control in the hardware and the software, we could say that Samsung is more flexible with their configurations compared to Sony. While Sony might have:
1. An edge in audio but they removed the headphone jack (thank you Sony)
2. Their handset design has been changed "finally" but still Samsung design is much better.
3. Their camera modules were very good (they supply the modules to Samsung too) but stil does not integrate the OIS and variable aperture (it seems that they crippled their own hardware so Samsung would still buy modules from them).
4. The battery tech were very good QNOVO is much better than nothing (I hope manufacturers could implement the same technology).
5. Their display were still LCD (LCD is good but this could also mean that Sony might have no direct control in their display department IDK if they're the ones that manufacture it).
6. Sony's camera software is behind in usability compared to Samsung. It seems that Sony's camera software experience were designed by an engineer but for a normal person, it's quite finicky to use.
While Samsung has been very flexible with their smartphone designs, form factor and their handset's target market Sony has been stale with their own given that they only cater a niche market and only produce small variations of smartphone they should be more focused with their design and usability but then their Xperias were always trumped by Samsung. Samsung has more control in terms of hardware and software design and for me a Samsung phone is always superior than what Sony could offer overall.
I've been using sony phones since the color screen, the s9 is the obvious clear winner here. Even the mi mix2s with sony sensor camera better than the xz2. Sony, is it so difficult to plant in an OIS into your flagship rear camera which with premium pricetag?? Take out those useless vibrations thingy and makes a proper good still photo camera for the xperia, will you?
AnonD-258449, 03 Apr 2018Just one question from all of you. Go through your galleries, and see how many night shots do... moreDon't find excuses for Sony. Neither of them excels over the other in all areas. Don't be a blind fanboy.
The only place where Sony's Xperia XZ2 comes out on top are the bokeh shots and selfies. Those look great.
Everything else, Sony is trash. SO. MUCH. NOISE. and the overblown exposure, hilarious.
Unless they finally overhaul the camera processing this fall with their Premium model, I'll be upgrading my Iphone 7 to either the S9+ or the new Google Pixel offering.
Just one question from all of you.
Go through your galleries, and see how many night shots do you have (excluding selfies) you people are discussing night shots as you all have been using Sony A7s2 and are some kind of very professional photographers. Also go through your social media accounts and see how many night shots have you there.
This time gsmarena says Sony Xperia XZ2 is good but haters and fanboys have to find an excuse. Without tripod one can hold smartphone for 1/8 sec easily. Secondly u can use any surface as a tripod. Don't find excuses and admit Sony Xperia XZ2 is the better proposition.
Tann Hauser, 02 Apr 2018Nope, you can easily shoot at 1/8 s shutter on Xperia by handheld without tripod. And the resu... moreWrong. gsmarena recommends a tripod for Sony. they are the recognized experts, you are a nobody.
Sony is the pioneer of thus feature and leader of camera cell sensors
¿S9+ vs XZ2?
What are they and where? Sony has a video of low quality and color in the videos at the time of the account that needs color and details, has problems with noise cancellation, the photos with a lot of noise and the details really creep silly, the stabilization of the Sony's camera is bad and because it does not matter in comparison to S9 +
A Sony worth buying... That is something i have to see in person... But when price drops ofc. =')
the test ended up being much better than typical gsma tests/reviews. nice!
Sony would indeed benefit a lot from OIS.. and a better selfie cam.. and a few other things. they're close.
Tann Hauser, 02 Apr 2018Yes. Use it all the time, and there no need for tripods. Flick to manual preset to 1/8 or 1/4 ... moreYou definitely need some sort of image stabilisation in that case, and if it is lacking one, then you can never achieve such slow shutter speed without introducing any blur in your image. That's why the upper limit of the SS on XZ2 is up to 1/16 s in Auto mode...
Sonyuser85, 02 Apr 2018Sony wins without a doubt because:
1. It was not a fair setting to use XZ2 at 19mp while S9... more1. Then what is the point of having 19MP sensor? It's not like extra resolution is used for downsampling like in Xperia XZ or P20 Pro... Simply reducing resolution in this case shouldn't affect the image quality in any way.
2. Different camera processing and "lens"??? XZ2 has a single lens with no variable aperture, there is nothing you can change here.
3. EIS generally works for video, not for photos. The only "EIS-like" stabilisation which works for photos is Pixel 2's HDR+ processing (which aligns and combines multiple shots to eliminate blur) and P20/P20 Pro's AIS.
5. You didn't see the samples of handheld night shot from each phone, did you?
6. With 24fps, yeah it is so much better.
7. And they're going to omit OIS as well?
Bokeh of s9 is ridiculous. Looks like cam was on the move.
His face has more blur than background.
Slayer, 02 Apr 2018Neither phone is particularly impressive but Sony is a mess!Sony wins without a doubt because:
1. It was not a fair setting to use XZ2 at 19mp while S9 at 12mp.
2. Sony uses different camera processing (and lenses) for non-zoomed/zoomed shots and other different situations as the mp rates and/or manual iso. The auto scene selection is not a big deal.
3. Sony have better results at higher iso with EIS than S9 with higher aperture and OIS.
4. Front camera has options in Api2 mode that can change its sharpness, contrast and colors. Some third party apps have the option to switch between the Api2 On/Off and Forced modes that can substantially change quality of results of stock camera shown in this review.
5. Sony did it best regarding overall quality and settings and the secret is to use always the second highest mp rate for best results.
6. Sony videos came out better with HDR compared to S9.
7. Surely in the nearest future the camera module will be upgraded. Sony did the same from Z1/Z2 flagships.
8. XZ2 comes with almost 100$ cheaper than S9 - at least in my country.