I hope GSMArena performs a super shootout before Xmas.
Pixel 3 XL, U12, XZ2 Premium and Note 9
Iphone 9 and v40 dont deserve to be included. They are not good, just ugly
Lol, Sony camera is so bad both at day and at night. If I had to pick one of these two, I'd pick the Galaxy.
Ellio74, 02 Apr 2018You find it oversharpened, but I just see noise and not a lot of it on the clock, it is also d... moreI'll ask you a question, please be honest with me.
Look the very first photo, use that tool to see them side by side.
Look at the fridge's handle.
Look at the flood on the right and the corners of the walls.
Look at that escher doll.
Look at the coffee machine on the left corner.
Now tell me sincerely, do you really like the way the Xperia process the details?
Do you really believe that all that dithering artifacts and the inability to show a smooth contour and represent shadows makes the photos better?
If only sony use brighter lens (f1.8 should be pretty good) and OIS
Ellio74, 02 Apr 2018Some say the XZ2 uses stacking. AIS from Huawei is something close to EIS (SteadyShot) from S... moreTrue, samsung uses f2.4 and still less noise than sony with f2, and sony works with better and larger sensor.
IQLogic, 02 Apr 2018Lol Sony :D These pics are terrible, amount of noise is ridiculous ... And manual mode in Sa... moreIt doesn't matter how good is the UI camera when the sensors in those phones are 1-1.12 µm crap.
DroidBoye, 02 Apr 2018We could say that Sony would be good when you have a tripod or a Gimbal but the S9 just works ... moreHow exactly do you think that Samsung wins overall as a phone? The XZ2 has a better battery life, closer to stock Android software, better update policy, integrated digital noise cancellation, the interesting haptic audio enhancer, battery care for battery longevity... And I may be forgetting a few things. All that Samsung has is a bit better hardware design (like smaller bezels and thinner body). I cannot even give to Samsung plus points for the AMOLED screen because it doesn't do much more (it has deeper blacks, but it has stronger white balance shift on angle and it doesn't look all that black when switched off).
I think there is a general perception that Samsung must be better than Sony, but objectively I can't see how, now that the cameras seem to be on par.
Lol Sony :D These pics are terrible, amount of noise is ridiculous ...
And manual mode in Samsung is complete joke. LG G6 or V30 have way better UI of camera app
Tann Hauser, 02 Apr 2018Nope, you can easily shoot at 1/8 s shutter on Xperia by handheld without tripod. And the resu... moreI don't believe that without OIS, you can consistently get sharp images at such low shutter speeds. The safe cutoff is 1/25 s (25mm being the focal length). Anything slower than that, you risk the effect of camera shake.
Panino Manino, 02 Apr 2018"Take a look at the clock in the daylight shots and it is clearly better."
Like you said, "... moreYou find it oversharpened, but I just see noise and not a lot of it on the clock, it is also darker.
Camera processing is all about compromises: noise helps for details, noise reduction leads to less details. These two cases are shown here.
Ok, I understood, it is possible to add sharpening, contrast, and everything you want in a photo. Here we're talking about what the phones are capable of, not hypothetical added post processing.
I also understood that the Xperia processing isn't the right one for you, but saying it is "a waste of hardware" isn't the true story.
I don't like how the S9 images are softer and how sometimes it is possible to notice the multi-staking traces but it is still a great snapper for example.
Panino Manino, 02 Apr 2018"Take a look at the clock in the daylight shots and it is clearly better." Like you said, "... moreSame way you can use noise reduction on more noisier shot, but detail and sharpness is lost... Its just preference. I find sharpness and detail on looking at a 1:1 or 100% crop photo more important. And also for printing photos.
Ellio74, 02 Apr 2018Finding the right balance can be difficult I guess, or it is according to preferences.
XZ2 ... more"Take a look at the clock in the daylight shots and it is clearly better."
Like you said, "it is according to preferences." I don't prefer that photo with the clock, the way the Xperia oversharpens there. Sharpening is something that you can add easily, but never remove.
The Xperia have plenty of compromises. It "works" just in a very feel selected and very special rare cases.
okcnaline, 02 Apr 2018Funny how everyone talks about the need for bipod for low-light. Just go manual mode.Yes. Use it all the time, and there no need for tripods. Flick to manual preset to 1/8 or 1/4 s shutter speed, makes great shots.
Whackcar, 02 Apr 2018Why is Sony still stuck with F 2.0 Aperture? It's been stuck there since like 2013. Ugh...Because the aperture f is not only about light that goes inside.
When you change f you also change DEPTH OF FIELD.
If you have exactly same camera sensor and focal length , when you change f you change DOF. It is the " distance" between main object of the photo ( a person for example) and everything behind.
Bigger value of f makes this " distance" bigger. You can see the samples of S9/S9+ when you change from f2.4 to 1.5.
Did you noticed that all phones with tele lens have f2.4 or 2.6?
Never 1.8 of bigger...
Panino Manino, 02 Apr 2018Over processed is bad, but under processed is equally bad.
So, XZ2 lowlight photos have more ... moreFinding the right balance can be difficult I guess, or it is according to preferences.
XZ2 pictures in general have mre texture than the S9 ones. Take a look at the clock in the daylight shots and it is clearly better.
Or look at the trees in the tripod section and it's again more detailed on the Sony.
Also don't forget that you're zooming in more with the Sony, because of its higher MP number.
I get the idea of having RAW, but I've never edited photos even though I had phones capable of shooting in that format.
Not really I would say, daylight is a matter of taste, low light is for the Samsung when handheld and for the Sony on a tripod and video is a matter of taste again.
Anonymous, 02 Apr 2018Be sure to carry a tripod around with you if you have the XZ2...otherwise....you know....Nope, you can easily shoot at 1/8 s shutter on Xperia by handheld without tripod. And the results will be as seen here.
I shoot handheld lowlights at 1/8 or 1/4 s all the time, and them are great. On XZ2 even greater.