Galaxy S9 vs. Xperia XZ2 shootout Comments
- ME
- ncrf
The Sony Camera is much better,in everything.
Sorry fanboys but that's how it is.
- TonyMoso
- mbmx
[deleted post]Everythig that I wroted in that post was facts not opinion: performance is a fact (every tests prove that) more and fastest updates form Sony is a fact (if U had Sony phone U will know) preordered bonus is a big fact. Same looking S8 and S9 is also a fact
Or no? :))
- TonyMoso
- mbmx
Anonymous, 04 Apr 2018On majority of reviews yes the s9 is superior. You can't just find one review that contradicts... morethis is Your answer? one review? Find me another one real with so many "low lights" samples for both. Is that becosue now U see Sami is not better right?
This Guy just go for walk in not so good weather and evening and takes simple and normal shots - this is real test.
Peoples make amazing "sunny" shots and comparing them, is not the point, the point is take normal or hard circumstances pictures and show them.
- TonyMoso
- mbmx
Both devices takes similar photos, one time is better S9 and one time XZ2, theres no so much differences between them but its Samsung who put "all money" to new (reimagined) camera marketing, so... I waited many years form S7 to see and buy something fresh, after S8 and now S8 I say pass to Sami. And take XZ2 at least they try to do something new (like with design) and with a "half" or less marketing they bring similar product to rivals. And still, better performance, updates, system optimalisation than Sami. And one more thing? What do U get (bonus) when U preordered S9? And what bonus gives Sony for preordered XZ2? U got now many pros to choice Sony not Sami this year.
- Anonymous
- I8ma
[deleted post]On majority of reviews yes the s9 is superior. You can't just find one review that contradicts the others to give the view you want and call that one the only real one
- Linas
- QPUW
Pretty useless shootout if in conclusion you cannot even name the winner - c'mon man-up and decide for f*** sake. And I appreciate and seen shootouts where the samples were it was literally hard to tell from the samples which device is better - not this time around though. It is enough of that political correctness and being afraid to "hurt" Sony fans again - I don't know what you are talking about but in any comparison Samsung samples are miles ahead to the level where it is almost non-comparable. I do understand that on screen and without zoom it is hard to tell the difference, but when zoomed it it is obvious that Samsung has much cleaner pictures, better in both good and low light, better in HDR, better on video. If you own samples is anything to go by Samsung wins hands down. You might pick on over-saturated screen - that is fine, but pictures are clearly superior quality.
- Anonymous
- I8ma
Anonymous, 04 Apr 2018Samsung won this guys. They know full well who's the main target audience for their phones's c... moreExcept the s9 takes the more accurate images
- Anonymous
- I8ma
lek, 04 Apr 2018so you need to read the conclusion again carefully.
Sony's low light only produced better ima... morePlus any of use with a brain can see they were just trying to be impartial.
If you're going to set the phone down or use a tripod anyway you can just as easily switch to manual and adjust iso and shutter on the s9. And even control aperture. So in most cases will still be superior in the galaxy.
And we can see that the shots have too much noise in the Xperia in comparison where the s9 broke the cycle and went for less sharpening with more natural detail compared to others.
Noise is not as bad as people claim yes. Especially if it's not too much and reserves fine detail. But if there is too much and it's only worse because of sharpening... It's not really better.
Though yes Sony did finally improve.
Sony has so much potential its just pathetic how they let themselves barely float along. They could attempt to take the mobile market by storm with ease... But instead we get underpowered devices with bad camera software and random dead devices as a wide spread manufacturer detect.
- Anonymous
- I8ma
Nick, 04 Apr 2018I'm pretty sure Sony removed the option for 8MP downsampling mode and replaced it with 12MP op... moreSamsung can't capture slow mo at at 1080p at 960flps. And most others can't do 960fps. Does that mean that such a feature shouldn't be mentioned at all??
- Sonyuser85
- LaF1
Anonymous, 04 Apr 2018Hi... Imx300 and imx220 used by Z series have 7.87 mm diagonal. The imx400 is a bit small... moreHi, my main intention was to point to more important aspects of Xperia cameras. Indeed the data took was from Imx300. Thanks!
- Nick
- vmFr
Tann Hauser, 04 Apr 2018So much circumstantial subjective speculation around a simple fact that Sony just has a differ... moreCalling the omission of basic features for high-end smartphone camera such as bright lens and OIS "different approach" sounds like another excuse to me...
I never said it is going to affect the sale of DSLR, but compact cameras will certainly take a hit. Their entry compact digital cameras all have pretty horrible JPEG processing and right now the only advantages they hold against the camera inside XZ2 is zoom and OIS. But if they put OIS onto their flagship phones, what would you expect to happen? Well, there would be less reason to buy Sony's compact over Xperia for the camera. In fact many of their cheap compacts have 1/2.3 inch sensor, which is exactly the same size as the one on XZ2. And because zoom lens narrows down the aperture quite dramatically, in terms of low-light performance they wouldn't stand a chance against modern flagship smartphones. Faster lens(let's say F1.7 or 1.8) will widen the gap even further for the night time photography. Highend compact like RX100 series wouldn't be affected as much though, because its pure image quality is still vastly superior to any smartphone in the market right now and its target customer segment is completely different from those buying smartphones. You can say exactly the same for Xperia and Walkman, by the way.
- TonyMoso
- mbmx
If U want to see more how both phones handles in low light condition typye in YT "Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus vs Sony Xperia XZ2 - foto-porównanie aparatów"
And Samsung fans please don't cry, U cant do nothing with this.
- Anonymous
- I8ma
Shanti Dope, 04 Apr 2018YouÂ’re the only one saying itÂ’s oversharpened when itÂ’s clearly not.
The XZ2Â’s low light ... moreNo anyone thatis not bias and knows what they are talking about who looked at the samples can clearly see that the xz2 has a fair amountof sharpening.
And clearly they are not the only to notice since I can see it too
- lek
- PA7x
Shanti Dope, 04 Apr 2018YouÂ’re the only one saying itÂ’s oversharpened when itÂ’s clearly not.
The XZ2Â’s low light ... moreI never said that noise is bad. but Sony applies way too much. its way too much.
while Samsung reduce it in result a more pleasant image for I believe on most people eyes here.
- lek
- PA7x
Anonymous, 04 Apr 2018Lol. were you here long time ago ?
https://www.gsmarena.com/reviewcomm-1330p10.php
ahh I've been recognized~ thank you. sincerely, lek.
btw, S8 was doing excellent too with its single lens back then for y'all who needs to know
- Anonymous
- I8ma
HuLk, 03 Apr 2018Hahahaha.........are you trying to tell yourself, Samy Fanboy? Please read the conclusion aga... moreI'm just stating facts based off the image results
- Anonymous
- I8ma
Shanti Dope, 04 Apr 2018It has more noise, but no sharpening.
Now that they're using the same multi-frame stacking me... moreWhy don'tyou look at the article before commenting?
The Sony ones are clearly more sharpened and digital looking than the galaxy ones
- Shanti Dope
- Kg{s
Nick, 04 Apr 2018That's most likely because the camera on XZ2 doesn't turn down the strength of sharpening in l... moreItÂ’s not business all the time.
Sony doesnÂ’t include OIS because thereÂ’s no way to fully disable it in times that itÂ’s not supposed to work. For photos, it will do wonders, but is horrible for videos.
You see, the S9 is still kind of wobbly when recording 4K videos, whereas the XZ2 is only less stable but no distortion. They wonÂ’t include one until thereÂ’s finally a solution to disable it completely for smartphones.
As for aperture, f/2.0 is a nice balance for daylight and low light pictures. Go lower and your images will be softer in daylight, especially in the corners. Go higher and your images will look unusaable in low light.
But one thing I like about the S9 is the variable aperture, so I believe that Sony may use it too in the future. But then people would say Sony is copying Samsung, while completely ignoring the fact that Samsung took inspiration from Sony for the slow motion 960fps @720p for the S9 and S9+.
- Shanti Dope
- Kg{s
lek, 04 Apr 2018but Sony's noise is terrible, way too much. aggresive sharpening make the noise getting detail... moreYouÂ’re the only one saying itÂ’s oversharpened when itÂ’s clearly not.
The XZ2Â’s low light pictures are often just as sharp as its daylight pictures, while the S9 has dropped its quality quite significantly due to more aggressive noise reduction.
If thereÂ’s one thatÂ’s more natural, itÂ’s the Sony. Noise arenÂ’t supposed to be reduced by a huge margin, except when itÂ’s overly too much that ruins the quality of the photo (in this case, doesnÂ’t). Even DSLRs take pictures with noise despite the better details, so less or no noise doesnÂ’t always make an image better, and it applies to the S9.
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