Wow. Look at all the fanboys going about "oooh OIS is sh*t for videos, and you can't disable it when needed, ooooh Sony is the king, oooh in yo face Sh*tsung oooh". Do these companies pay you to rally behind them like this? I'm not against only Sony fanboys, I'm against all faboys out there. Just get a life. As a long time Sony user, I've made my decision quite a while ago: I'll never ever buy an Xperia without proper low light HANDHELD performance. Be it OIS, or their new experimental high ISO dual sensor I don't care. I want it sorted before I will pay actual money to get another Sony. I do not like Samsung too at this point. 12MP feels so low res after using 23MP Z5C for a long time. Just give me an 18-19MP 4:3 (min 16MP 16:9) sensor with 1.22-1.25um pixel pitch, f/1.8 aperture (not a variable one, not necessary, the widest aperture I want in a smartphone is f/1.8), proper "handheld photo" stabilization and thus actual good handheld low light performance, and I'll pay for it.
Nick, 03 Apr 2018Let me correct your comment:
1. XZ2 doesn't have a better battery life and that's quite obvio... moreThe battery life of the XZ2 IS better according to ALL tests. I don't know what you read. Also the fact that Samsung achieves same long term battery life results as Sony's Battery Care is your own pure speculation.
The update policy of Sony speaks for itself. The XZ1 was the fist Oreo phone, the XZ P received Oreo six months before the Samsung S8. There was also a report that Sony are the most reliable and bug-free devices. My XZ Premium is certainly totally bug-free. Being also close to stock means coherence: With a Samsung phone, you have two different OS designs in one device. One when you are in Samsung apps and one when you open a Google app. This looks cheap.
The colour inaccuracy of Sony displays is another myth: I calibrated the screen of my XZ Premium to match the screen of my Surface tablet (which according to tests, is the most colour accurate screen on the market) and the results are identical. According to test the XZ2 has even less of the old coldness of Sony screens, so bringing it to perfect white balance should be no problem. It's just that some websites like Phonearena don't bother playing with the White Balance settings of Sony, which they do for Samsung.
The cameras ARE on the same level, or isn't it the same article were commenting to?
Looks like you're only right about the loss of digital noise cancellation, which disappeared from the phone specs. Sony really wants to promote their wireless digital noise cancelling earphones, which is disappointing. However Samsung still has never had a competing solution to it.
if gsmarena says that the xz2 is better is that it is 1000 times better the s9
By this test sony says they are superior than any other in camera algorithm but far from superior in hardware implementation ( OIS)...
A single person is able to take handheld non-stabilised shots at 1/8 s doesn't mean that everyone can do it. Please learn something about minimum shutter speeds for handheld shooting.
sony is the best in camera, just compare pictures in original review. the new king
Nick, 03 Apr 2018Let me correct your comment: 1. XZ2 doesn't have a better battery life and that's quite obvio... moreStrange . All you finding are different from the article . Did you comment without reading the article?
Xz2 win easy.
Best video camera.
4k hdr 10 bits récord > obsolet sdr record of samsung.
the s9 is a mobile trash, has a low-end screen, little autonomy, an obsolete camera and poor performance.
Galaxies are for people who are losing
Xz2 win easy.
Best video, best stabilitation, 4k HDR record destroy obsolet sdr record
XZ2 turned out really one of the best android devices this year, topping benchmarks, excellent batterylife, excellent camera performance, excellent audio, great sturdiness, and that few tricks of its own, DVS, 3D scanner, SDR to HDR upscaling, and 10bit hdr video....
Just the darn lack of jack there... Ummmh...
Bring that back, and it will be a perfect smartphone.
Shootergod, 03 Apr 2018Both in day and night shot, GS9's noise handling superb for a smartphone, oh boy! So noticeab... morethere is no noise canceling Feature on both phonr sensors. Samsung did with better software
AnonD-258449, 03 Apr 2018Just one question from all of you.
Go through your galleries, and see how many night shots do... moreOf course.
1/8 sec shutter is preety handheldy, just one step above what automode of XZ2 uses, I use it all the time (with auto ISO) by preset manual on my Xperia, and XZ2 makes excellent in lowlight with it, as seen by samples here with 1/8 sec shutter.
But some fboys will start attacking me for claiming that (??), although its clearly testable on their own beloved devices. Them just cant stand an Xperia doing great lowlight or sth. Delusional folk.
Anonymous, 02 Apr 2018How exactly do you think that Samsung wins overall as a phone? The XZ2 has a better battery li... moreLet me correct your comment:
1. XZ2 doesn't have a better battery life and that's quite obvious when you look at the individual score of battery tests on both devices.
2. Closer skin to stock Android isn't really advantage since that means that the software also might be buggier. I keep hearing tons of bug reports for Sony phones on the internet but not as much for Samsung.
3. XZ2 also removed Digital Noise Cancellation along with the headphone jack, great(!)
Samsung also promises that the battery capacity remains high(95%) even after 2 years of usage, so XZ2 doesn't really hold any advantage here.
4. And trust me, having a slight shift in white balance on angle is still better than having a constantly colour inaccurate display.
5. Finally, the camera is not on par. In both handheld auto and Pro mode, S9 is superior to XZ2, and S9+ does even better because of secondary optically stabilised telephoto lens.
Both in day and night shot, GS9's noise handling superb for a smartphone, oh boy!
So noticeable, when you mash the photo into one and compare them side by side.
AnonD-258449, 03 Apr 2018Just one question from all of you.
Go through your galleries, and see how many night shots do... moreWhen you go darker, S9 will have an edge due to:
-Wider aperture lens which lets more light in
-Longer upper limit for shutter speed in Pro mode
-An ability to shoot in RAW
When it is handheld... well, you know which one is going to be the winner.
We don't need to "admit" that the inferior camera is better than clearly superior one - that's against the law of physics and obviously doesn't make sense.
Anonymous, 02 Apr 2018How exactly do you think that Samsung wins overall as a phone? The XZ2 has a better battery li... moreI do like Samsung on the performance side of things. They could better integrate their codes with their hardware because most of their hardware was theirs some in design and mostly on manufacturing. They have their own:
1. SoC (Exynos)
2. RAM modules
3. NAND drive (UFS)
4. Display (AMOLED)
5. Most of the batteries were produced by them.
With this control in the hardware and the software, we could say that Samsung is more flexible with their configurations compared to Sony. While Sony might have:
1. An edge in audio but they removed the headphone jack (thank you Sony)
2. Their handset design has been changed "finally" but still Samsung design is much better.
3. Their camera modules were very good (they supply the modules to Samsung too) but stil does not integrate the OIS and variable aperture (it seems that they crippled their own hardware so Samsung would still buy modules from them).
4. The battery tech were very good QNOVO is much better than nothing (I hope manufacturers could implement the same technology).
5. Their display were still LCD (LCD is good but this could also mean that Sony might have no direct control in their display department IDK if they're the ones that manufacture it).
6. Sony's camera software is behind in usability compared to Samsung. It seems that Sony's camera software experience were designed by an engineer but for a normal person, it's quite finicky to use.
While Samsung has been very flexible with their smartphone designs, form factor and their handset's target market Sony has been stale with their own given that they only cater a niche market and only produce small variations of smartphone they should be more focused with their design and usability but then their Xperias were always trumped by Samsung. Samsung has more control in terms of hardware and software design and for me a Samsung phone is always superior than what Sony could offer overall.
I've been using sony phones since the color screen, the s9 is the obvious clear winner here. Even the mi mix2s with sony sensor camera better than the xz2. Sony, is it so difficult to plant in an OIS into your flagship rear camera which with premium pricetag?? Take out those useless vibrations thingy and makes a proper good still photo camera for the xperia, will you?