AnonD-734554, 12 Apr 2018You can never compare Samsung Or Apple with Huawei!!!!!! Cheaper????????HUAWEI cannot compete with Apple and SAMSUNG? What the hell is this? Previously they're not on Apple or even SAMSUNG's level, but as years past, they have increasingly becoming better and better, now I can already say it is ready to compete with brands like SAMSUNG. Didn't u know that different countries smartphones are priced differently? Not all the time one particular brand is more expensive than other brands. It may be more expensive in your country, but have u thought of other countries? Definitely not. It seems like u got some hatred for HUAWEI, why not rename yourself into "A HUAWEI hater"? U just underestimated them, what a disgrace
Nick, 12 Apr 2018XZ2's low light performance is good, but not great compared to other smartphones... P20 Pro wi... moreBased on colors, feels like AI wasn't used. Its like what you would see in hdr situations(with poor hdr results) with older xperia, some parts are too bright or too dark, colors are bad. Try to compare yourself, its not great to look at.
If its about low light, its just get worse for details, I mean its far away from hdr on xperia. Though with long exposures it can get more usable results, it still uses same sensor so results are similar. As with other phones, its just ois difference in very low light. Xperia on other hand can get great results in not extreme low light in full resolution, still looking hdr like and full of colors.
Maybe gsma need to add extreme low light to test samples, in all I compared there xz2 wins. I also dont remember shooting in such extreme low light with a phone, xz2 would lose in. Thats what I mean.
If this triple camera gets a success, one plus will be the first one to copy that. They seem to be getting better and better at this.
Camera is best but......................... there are still other things that don't need to be ignored :(
vrvly, 12 Apr 2018Its better in only 5x zoom and long exposure. Test shots reveal it all, uneven detail, poor co... moreXZ2's low light performance is good, but not great compared to other smartphones... P20 Pro with AI turned off and S9+ still can produce better photos. And if you are actually talking about its camera quality based on those oversaturated, overprocessed instagram-ready photo samples, then you really shouldn't.
Take a look at this one for example, it looks great with natural colours and fairly modest processing which subtly enhances overall clarity without destroying details. See the textures on grass, they are preserved very well, whereas with AI enabled (https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_p20_pro-review-1747p7.php#image6) they look horrible.
Its better in only 5x zoom and long exposure. Test shots reveal it all, uneven detail, poor colors. I would go for any flagship instead.
XZ2 still wins, bright or low light, stills or video. Useless number hype, got me excited for nothing.
Anonymous, 12 Apr 2018But why ppl make critics when Sony has 424ppi or Apple has 404?
But for chinese phones is ... moreI don't know, lol.
I criticise screens (for smartphones, not for tablets or else) with ppi less than 330 and more than 450 :)
Impressive camera. Now time for an all-out shootout between the S9+, the P20 Pro and the Pixel 2. You can throw in the Mi Mix 2s, the V30, the iPhone X and XZ2 also....
AnonD-725486, 12 Apr 2018As for price, reason is simple isn't it? it's a flagship, people who really really want it wil... more1) Earlier even flagships didn't cost that much.
2) The performance of today's flagships can't be even used properly - so what's the point to produce them?
3) What were the flagship features comes with time to lower range smartphones - so again what's the point in flagships existence?
The problem is, everything nowadays is freaking HUGE! My S7 is perfect in size and any bigger phone just really upsets me. None of these flagships from 2018 brought my attention to the level that I would want to change my S7 this year... Sad
As a mobile phone overall it is just another copy of iphone x. But here because of Leica, camera has got its originality and innovation. Lets hope this innovation encourages others in camera department like iphone x did for stupid notch...
We waited 5 years for the 40 MP camera to return. Sadly, with no stabilization in 4k videos to consider purchase
AnonD-303606, 12 Apr 2018Great phone but... - Display is good but not the best. - Audio is good but not flagship l... moreNot all of Europe in Denmark the P20 pro is 170 euro (230 pre sale) cheaper than s9+, and 85 euros (135 åre sale) cheaper than the s9. So in Denmark its a mit more Phone, for less money
abubasim, 12 Apr 2018Wow! Look at those bright sharpening halos. They have failed miserably if they tried to emulat... morePictures with Rubbish AI turned off look great, with little to no artifacts and excellent amount of details with seemingly accurate color reproduction. I prefer those images over those taken by Galaxy S9 or Pixel 2, tbh.
However, those taken with AI enabled make me want to scream, "Get out of my sight"!
Lumia phones cannot keep up to modern flagship smartphones in terms of dynamic range and low-light photography, by the way. I know you want to bring them up because they also have high MP count, and they are still indeed capable shooters, but honestly, they are not on the top anymore.
Anonymous, 12 Apr 2018Gsmarena also doesn't criticize that Huawei's multi frame noise reduction (called "Night mode"... moreHDR+ and Night Mode on P20 Pro are entirely different things - from how it works to the end results.
HDR+ shoots up to 9 underexposed images within a second successively and merge them using multi-frame image averaging and aligning, then all the post-processing such as defogging and saturation/contrast boost are applied.
Night Mode, on the other hand, merges multiple long exposure shots with different exposure settings while also applying the post processing in real time, and so that the users can decide the amount of exposure in their photos and stop shooting whenever they want to by pressing the shutter button again(it is a bit similar to how bulb exposure on DSLR works).
HDR+ is really great for moving subject as the exposure time of each image is short, and the aligning algorithm is intelligent enough to detect moving portions of the picture and corrects them to prevent ghosting. There's one huge caveat though - Noise level becomes higher as the scene gets darker and there will be a point where the hardware can't catch up, and that's where it starts to fall apart.
Night Mode, on the other hands, has no such issues. Since the number of stacked images is not limited unlike HDR+, if the scene gets darker, it just needs to stack more images. Even though when the phone is handheld the total exposure time will be limited to 4 seconds, it's still far longer than HDR+'s roughly 1 second limit. The dynamic range will be much better too, since it works more like a "real" HDR where images with different exposure are combined into one. The problem with this mode, however, is severe ghosting and aggressive noise reduction which smudges out fine details even when it is completely unnecessary, and I understand why some people are hating it. I wish I can turn NR off, too, on my Mate 10 Pro!
In summary, HDR+ is better for handheld night time photography when there are lots of things in motion: even though it says "HDR" in its name, its overall mechanism much more resembles that of handheld night shot mode found on compact cameras. But Night Mode is a clear winner for still object and photography in very poorly lit conditions where HDR+ cannot keep up. Darker it gets, better the results Night Mode will produce compared to HDR+, despite strong NR being applied.