Anonymous, 21 Apr 2018Sure... Now that with Oreo + Project treble + Android One, updating the device is as complex a... moreIf the manufacturer use heavy customization... no it is not so easy... easier than today, but still have to be done...
Gapps are bloatware, 21 Apr 2018Wrong. The correct answer is: customers are too stupid to buy last years model. Nokia first c... moreBecause last year's flagship still costs more than this year's midrange. And also because most people get their phones on contract and some telcos don't offer last year's flagships.
OogWay, 22 Apr 2018The camera is good enough for low light shots. Nice noise control while preserving the details. Ya, it's way better than on last year's for sure.
The camera is good enough for low light shots. Nice noise control while preserving the details.
MKL, 21 Apr 2018Yet no other brand does that. How easy is that?That is a good question for the brands when Treble will be adopted widely and they should be asked too about this too: https://www.wired.com/story/android-phones-hide-missed-security-updates-from-you/
This is a good starting year to see what future plans each brand has or its interest in satisfying customers. Many will make the excuse of having been busy updating to Oreo but once adopted this system with dedicated partitions, not like the case of OP 5 and 5T, they will have no excuse not to give better support over time other than wanting to sell new models leaving old ones obsolete.
It is clear that for the future whoever buys a new phone with Oreo and Treble should take into account the support of updates that may be received, but it is one more data to analyze from Q4 this year or next when it is fully extended in the new models and those that they have decided to upgrade from Nougat.
Anonymous, 21 Apr 2018You have to compare price per year of updates, and not absolute price. So assuming both have 2... moreSure... Now that with Oreo + Project treble + Android One, updating the device is as complex as copy and paste the update sended by Google in the right folder and done with, perhaps, few tweaks if you have pesonalized something which will mean a modification of the original something that customers that want Android One don't like . The apps and features added by the vendor are now in a separated folder so the old hardwork adaptation and recode is gone.
Glenn, 21 Apr 2018Why do you look so far back in the past? The mobiles with 821 are much cheaper today than this... moreYou have to compare price per year of updates, and not absolute price. So assuming both have 2 years of update, a flagship from last year would have to cost 50% of this phone in order to be competitive, as you'll have to replace it next year. (if the N7+ actually gets 3 years of security updates, it's still a better option as long as it is less than 3 times more expensive).
Disappointed no color accuracy (even nokia 6 Chinese variant was). I don't expect much from nokia from now onward.
eSIM, 21 Apr 2018Lol butthurt much. Have you heard about HMD Global before they start using Nokia branding? Rig... moreButhurt? What is that, your fealings? Hmd are not important as long as they use Nokia technology, patents and experience. Which they do. Blind fan? Get a life kid. I probably used more devices then the number of your days on this earth. Am i also a blind fan when i say sony is a brand with whom essencial crapp can't be compared? Probably, cause kids this days have to really say something, not that is education, not that is important, but, has to be up their with them selfies on facebook.
Anonymous, 21 Apr 2018For your kind information. Today's. Midrange are equally fast as last years flagship 821vs660 ... moreWhy do you look so far back in the past? The mobiles with 821 are much cheaper today than this Nokia 7 Plus. You have to compare that you can get for the same price. And looking is easy to see that for the price of this phone you can buy others with SD835 and Kirin 970 last year, both with better features than the SD660 that came out last year and the best thing is that with better cameras at the same time. It is one thing to be a fan of a brand and want a particular model and another is to be blind and not know how to buy something better with the same money.
Excellent phone for the price, I think I'm gonna get one in white, but for now only hte black is available here.
Yet Another Nokia Android with Android 8.1.
Where is the Android 8.1 update for Nokia 5 in the UK?
Xiaomi Fan , 21 Apr 2018Just an honest question. Why do companies build midrange phones if people could buy last years... moreFor your kind information. Today's. Midrange are equally fast as last years flagship 821vs660 but for that the processor manufacturers and engineers does hard work for a years or more so they can increase the speed and efficiency and decrease the price so you can get your flagship at the midrange price thank you
CrazyGump, 21 Apr 2018So much opinion I don't get here:
- Comparing a smartphone 1 year older while one of the se... moreThe phone you want already exists. It is called Nokia 7, and it has a 5.2" screen. See below link.
r33fd, 21 Apr 2018It's all about money.
Companies prefer to discontinue old products than sell them cheaper.
M... moreWrong. The correct answer is: customers are too stupid to buy last years model.
Nokia first came up with this technique with its symbian phone: they would launch a flagship and then a year or two later relaunch most of that same phone in a cheaper body with a different name.
Here's the review for Nokia C6 from 2010:
This is the opening statement of the review:
"Yesterday’s high-end is the new midrange we like to say. The Nokia C6 has almost exactly the same features as the Nokia N97 mini but hangs a big Sale sign. Time to shop for high-end features off high street."
The old Nokia had been doing this for quite some time then. Customers just need a new look and a new name. If you don't believe me, then check ebay or any online market in your country and look at the prices for old flagships still available. And then try convincing someone to buy one of those instead of a mid range phone.
An old flagship is better 9.99 times out of 10, but no one wants to buy it.
I myself have bought from ebay Xperia Z1, HTC One (M8) and LG G3 for 110-130 usd each withing the last 1 year. I don't think anything at this price point can beat these 3 in terms of power, picture and build quality and speaker performance. What else is there to beat them at? And at this price point its not even a mid range (that would be the Z5 or XZ). At this price, those Leagoo and Doggee and those garbage look expensive with their 80 usd price tags
AnonD-670648, 21 Apr 2018Unless you live in the west there's no reason to buy this when you can just get the mi 6 for c... moreActually, the other way arround. When you live in the West, their is no reason to buy disposible crapp devices like: xiaomi, mi, onplus or whatever other boatmade companies.
AnonD-752244, 21 Apr 2018I ported Pixel camera. Some features dont work so far.
Also sunlight legibility is average ... moreHi, thanks for the reply, appreciate it.
While some features do not work, how about the image quality? Any significant improvement?
Also, could you share your average screen-on time please?