Carl Key, 22 Apr 2018It depends of the mid range phone... because in this case several flagships of the last year h... moreAnd the best thing is that you can do the same with a 4 yr old flagship vs low mid range/low end phone.
A year and half ago I thought the Moto G was a good deal. Probably was, but it looked like a rip off compared to a 120 usd Xperia Z1. Even the much improved Z3 was cheaper than the Moto.
Carl Key, 22 Apr 2018It depends of the mid range phone... because in this case several flagships of the last year h... moreMan, that's all relative.
In my country:
Huawei Mate 10 4-64Gb - you can only buy Pro and Lite versions, standard Mate 10 not available!
Asus ZenFone 4 Pro 6-128Gb - 6 months after release still not available on the market, and launch price was 530Â€ if GSMArena data is correct.
Honor View 10 4-64Gb/6-128Gb - 4-64 version not available, cheapest 6-128 costs 495Â€.
Samsung Galaxy S8 4-64Gb - price is in a range 550-600Â€!
Nokia 7 Plus 4-64 Gb available for 399Â€ - best option at the moment!
Carl Key, 22 Apr 2018It depends of the mid range phone... because in this case several flagships of the last year h... moreSamsung S8 and other devices you listed, are they going to get updates as long as N7+ will get? Nope. I wish to keep my phone for at least two years. And your listed phones manufacturers won't support those devices anymore. So options are limited and at this point N7+ seems only choice besides pixel devices.
I like Nokia but find it so annoying that they refuse to put a notification light in anything.
It is something many find useful and practical at a glance.
Anonymous, 22 Apr 2018If the manufacturer use heavy customization... no it is not so easy... easier than today, but ... moreIn that case if they can't update their phones enough fast, is their own fault due to complex the UI and system unnecessary. It is their fault for wanting to complicate all to distinguish themselves from others when in fact they tend to make it heavier, slower and less familiar against Android Stock, except for some occasions where they do add some useful features.
Anonymous, 22 Apr 2018Because last year's flagship still costs more than this year's midrange. And also because most... moreIt depends of the mid range phone... because in this case several flagships of the last year have now similar price to the Nokia 7 Plus. So here we are talking of mid-premium phones that cost like the last year phones and not an average mid-range ones. Of course, it'll depend of where you live and if you need pay taxes. But it worth buy the last year flagship even with carriers, they usually include some of them before being discontinued. It is in your hand to choose the right moment to buy and where to buy it or from which carrier.
Nokia 7 Plus Global 4-64 Gb 399 euros
Huawei Mate 10 4-64Gb, better SoC, better camera 417 euros
Asus ZenFone 4 Pro 6-128Gb, better SoC, better camera, more RAM and ROM, 425 euros
Honor View 10 4-64Gb 327 euros, View 10 6-128Gb, better SoC, similar camera 399 euros
Samsung Galaxy S8 4-64Gb, the most expensive can be found for 453 euros, only 54 more than the Nokia 7 Plus.
All prices are from physical and online stores, but operators still offer some of them at a good price with their plans.
It's easy to find those prices if you use a search engine like "Kimovil" or visit the operators' pages looking for the flagships of the previous year.
All this, is for those who value getting the most for their money or do not want to spend too much on the last model that usually comes overpriced and you pay for the novelty, the change of design, updates, etc. The latest flagships and mid-range premium phones are more for those who change phone every year because they have the latest design innovation and pay whatever is necessary without caring much how much they cost.
Anonymous, 22 Apr 2018If the manufacturer use heavy customization... no it is not so easy... easier than today, but ... moreIn that case, they themselves generated the problem so, if they are unable to update fast enough their phones, they should blame themselves for complicating things, especially for the UI that is usually the main reason, they complicate everything unnecessarily to differentiate themselves when what they usually do is make the UI more complex and slower.
The Nokia 7 plus does not have an fm radio like the specs on gsmarena suggest. This is what Nokia had to say:
Thank you for contacting Nokia Mobile Care team.
Regarding your inquiry kindly be advised that the Nokia 7 plus hasn't got an inbuilt FM radio receiver.
However there is nothing to worry about as you will still be able to listen to your favorite radio stations. You can do this by using a radio app from Google Play Store. Keep in mind however that you will require mobile data or wifi in order to do this.
We remain available for any other inquiry you may have in the future.
Kindly note that you will receive an email for service evaluation survey,
I would appreciate if you evaluate my personal efforts to provide you support.
Nokia Mobile Care team.
Anonymous, 21 Apr 2018Sure... Now that with Oreo + Project treble + Android One, updating the device is as complex a... moreIf the manufacturer use heavy customization... no it is not so easy... easier than today, but still have to be done...
Gapps are bloatware, 21 Apr 2018Wrong. The correct answer is: customers are too stupid to buy last years model. Nokia first c... moreBecause last year's flagship still costs more than this year's midrange. And also because most people get their phones on contract and some telcos don't offer last year's flagships.
OogWay, 22 Apr 2018The camera is good enough for low light shots. Nice noise control while preserving the details. Ya, it's way better than on last year's for sure.
The camera is good enough for low light shots. Nice noise control while preserving the details.
MKL, 21 Apr 2018Yet no other brand does that. How easy is that?That is a good question for the brands when Treble will be adopted widely and they should be asked too about this too: https://www.wired.com/story/android-phones-hide-missed-security-updates-from-you/
This is a good starting year to see what future plans each brand has or its interest in satisfying customers. Many will make the excuse of having been busy updating to Oreo but once adopted this system with dedicated partitions, not like the case of OP 5 and 5T, they will have no excuse not to give better support over time other than wanting to sell new models leaving old ones obsolete.
It is clear that for the future whoever buys a new phone with Oreo and Treble should take into account the support of updates that may be received, but it is one more data to analyze from Q4 this year or next when it is fully extended in the new models and those that they have decided to upgrade from Nougat.
Anonymous, 21 Apr 2018You have to compare price per year of updates, and not absolute price. So assuming both have 2... moreSure... Now that with Oreo + Project treble + Android One, updating the device is as complex as copy and paste the update sended by Google in the right folder and done with, perhaps, few tweaks if you have pesonalized something which will mean a modification of the original something that customers that want Android One don't like . The apps and features added by the vendor are now in a separated folder so the old hardwork adaptation and recode is gone.
Glenn, 21 Apr 2018Why do you look so far back in the past? The mobiles with 821 are much cheaper today than this... moreYou have to compare price per year of updates, and not absolute price. So assuming both have 2 years of update, a flagship from last year would have to cost 50% of this phone in order to be competitive, as you'll have to replace it next year. (if the N7+ actually gets 3 years of security updates, it's still a better option as long as it is less than 3 times more expensive).