Anonymous, 30 May 2018Hahaha.. These butthurt commenters are the laughing stocks.. Guess what.. Nokia is going to bu... moreTrue! Nokia is here to stay wether they like it or not. And not all people prefer samsung, iphone, etc. These xiaomi stans are it it again. Go buy them to your hearts content. Lol
ZloiYuri, 29 May 2018almost fairytale-like success story only for people who never heard about Foxconn, real develo... moreDon't spread fake news it's 2018 and info's are just a few clicks away. HMD Global (from Finland) owns the rights to use the Nokia brand. Foxxcon is the manufacturer of Nokia phones. Get your facts straight.
r33fd, 29 May 2018More useless low end. Who buys such things ?Many people buy such phones. Having been in mobile industry for nearly 2 decades, I can tell you by facts, than 90% of features/performance in the devices is never used.
Geric.770, 30 May 2018I hope these phones will not be a failure when released in my country. Most people still buy S... moreWell, Xiaomi anniversary phone is coming. It will be much more interesting than these 3 models for sure. Even the normal Redmi Note 5 looks much better than these. Nokia really need to up their games to catch up with the competitors, especially the Chinese makers.
definitely better than any phone released in past whit same price. i canot understand why new sim card wont work in old nokia phones anymore, they should be more secure than android. sad but all my purchased nokia samsung lg phones are broken. and my money getting lower and lower.
HMD's line-up seems messy this year. Alternatively they could have gone like this:
Nokia 8 Sirocco (SD 835/845)
Nokia 7 plus (SD 660)
Nokia X6 (SD 636 with notch)
Nokia 6.1 (SD 636 no notch)
Nokia 5.1 (SD 630)
Nokia 3.1 (SD 450)
Nokia 2.1 (SD 450 with smaller display and res)
Alas, HMD uses MediaTek... I also suspect that Nokia X6 is merely to try competing with Xiaomi and Asus, with their cheap SD 636 devices.
Anyway, these new phones are clearly not for tech-savvy folks. Their target consumers are those who use smartphones merely for social media and little to no games.
OogWay, 30 May 2018These are such boring phones..... Even Xiaomi ones are much more exciting than these. Not wast... moreI hope these phones will not be a failure when released in my country. Most people still buy Samsung, iPhones, and Xiaomi here. :|
None of these offerings wow me --except the Nokia 2.1 if they can get that to India, Central Asia, Africa, and South America by the tens of millions for pennies.
People out there will be well served with Stock Android, a coloured screen, a camera, and a long battery life. Again, this device is only good if they can make A LOT of them and sell them cheap for the really poor people looking to update their Symbian phones.
PS The article is wrong that Cortex A53 is more efficient than a Cortex A7. It's the other way, the Cortex A7 uses much much less power than the Cortex A53 but it is slower. The A53 has the advantage of a more modern performance and support for 64-bit Apps. However, I think these 28nm Octacore A53's need to die off. We should instead look for 14nm Seven Cortex A35's with a Single Cortex A75 DynamIQ SoC. Average cost will be almost the same, but performance increases around +70%. MediaTek come on, get on it before Qualcomm.
Hahaha.. These butthurt commenters are the laughing stocks.. Guess what.. Nokia is going to burst through the market no matter what they say.. These 5.1, 3.1 and 2.1 line up are solid and the pricing are tempting.. Remember Nokia make PHONES.. That doubles as a digital device.. The chipsets offered are more than enough for the usage.. Most importantly the tank like build quality.. Those people clamoring for more powerful chipset don't even fully make use of their own powerful phones.. Just buzz off and go buy xiaomi or whatever and complain about their quality there..
These are such boring phones..... Even Xiaomi ones are much more exciting than these. Not wasting my money on these craps.
r33fd, 29 May 2018More useless low end. Who buys such things ?people who only can afford it ... and they prefer nokia phone , not samsung or hwawei or oppo or xiaomi or other android phone
Anonymous, 30 May 2018I'm curious...
Nokia said P18...who find the information that P18 is mt6755 too? And where? O... moreNokia's own website says it is mt 6755s dude, if possible go there and check, heck the gpu and lte modem are same too..
Besides, just because last year they used 430, does not justify to use another 28 nm architecture processor, especially if sd 450 exists
Mediatek might have tools to compete with upto sd 660.. but I don't think 660 existed 2 years ago for them to compete with
Also again sd425 is an upgrade to sd 212, also people in sub 100$ category won't care about open gls 3.1 or whatever. Besides it runs different version of android(go edition which is supposed to be for such phones) The processor used in nokia 5 is not enough to say it is an upgrade, which is weird since there is no phone with sd 450 in nokia's line up and 5 would have had been perfect for that.
Mediatek does make some good processors and qualcomm makes some bad processors too. It is upto manufacturers to not rip customers off, which, I'm sorry to say, nokia is doing with nokia 5 this year
Anonymous, 29 May 2018Also mt 6755 is p10.. p18 is overclocked p10, nothing more nothing less..I'm curious...
Nokia said P18...who find the information that P18 is mt6755 too? And where? Only because it's P1x? It means nothing! Proof :
For exemple, P20 and P25 are both mt6757/mt6757CD...but P23 is mt6763! And P22 is mt6762! They don't use same GPU, same LTE modem and P22 uses 12nm when the others used 16nm. P22 is even limited to HD+ screen when P20 can handle fullhd.
Naming is really difficult to understand!
There isn't any official information that P18 is an overclocked P10...P10 already carries 4A53@2.0ghz+4A53@1.2ghz (it exists @1.8ghz too), overclocked? Really?
Why not, an underclocked P20 for exemple?
This soc even doesn't appear on Mediatek's official website.
And even if it was the case? Last year, Nokia 5, uses Snap 430, 28nm too! was it a problem? 430 is mt6750's competitor that you find this year on Nokia 3.1.
ISP is better on P10 too.
And what about 425 on Nokia 2.1, still 28nm? Adreno 308 or recycled 305 from S400 released in 2013! Unable to run opengl3.1 API in 2018!
If people who write P18 is mt6755 are the same people who say mt6750 is LTE Cat.4, we can doubt! Unchecked information!
Come on, Mediatek has weapons to compete at least until 660 or even 835.
I would prefer seeing P22 on Nokia 3.1 and P23 on 5.1...and I would be glad to see P60 on X5 or X7, but both 3.1 and 5.1 are upgrades of 3 and 5...
In Those categories Price Matters; So:
For 2.1 100 EUR:
Asus - ZenFone Live (L1) ZA550KL
Xiaomi - Redmi Note 5A
For 3.1 150 EUR:
Lenovo - K5
Xiaomi - Redmi S2
Lenovo - S5
For 5.1 200 EUR:
Front Camera LED
Xiaomi - Redmi Note 5 AI Dual Camera
Xiaomi - Redmi Note 5 Pro [ Base: 64GB Internal / 4GB RAM ]
Asus - Zenfone Max Pro (M1) ZB601KL [ 2160p@30fps - 1080p@60fps - 5000mAh ]
HMD officially Made fun of Nokia Brand.
Cary, 29 May 2018Nokia 5.1 2Gb/16Gb, MediaTek Helio P18, 2,970 mAh, 5.5Â”, 16 MP, 8 MP Â€189/$219
Nokia 3.1 2... moreDont put urself in such a hard position by being stupid.
All 2018 version will be .1 from previous gen, while YOU KNOW IT, that 2019 version will be 6.2, 5.2, 3.2.
Stop pretending being stupid. Or maybe you are.
abduz, 29 May 2018HMD is a start-up MS funded for employees of Nokia who were part of the lay-offs. MS would ei... moreFYI - HMD can use the NOKIA brand name for 10 years. They still have 8 and Nokia can change his mind...
ZloiYuri, 29 May 2018almost fairytale-like success story only for people who never heard about Foxconn, real develo... moreHMD is a start-up MS funded for employees of Nokia who were part of the lay-offs. MS would either help them find other jobs or help them with a start-up, so came about HMD.
Nokia put it's weight behind it as well, as it benefits from gaining ground again. While FOXCONN produces the phones and can reap from it's success, while gaining a production plant (or two) that belonged to Nokia.
That is why, MS and Nokia have been gladly "giving" their liscence to "HMD," because HMD is technically a collaboration between Nokia and Microsoft. Should HMD succeed, both MS and Nokia gain ..if not, then neither of their names are the ones affected or placed as the company responsible in the headlines.
I wouldn't be surprised if in the next few years(or after the 10 year contract is over), Nokia repurchases their share making HMD entirely Nokia again while FOXCONN continues to produce the devices and Microsoft would have made back their "loss" that was the purchase of Nokia.
For anyone doubting this, always remember,
-HMD was born out of the blue, directly after the 2016 (which was the year the agreement ended were MS forbid Nokia from producing phones),
-without a reputation or history,
-formed of Nokia employees that MS laid-off,
-instantly granted ALL patents from Nokia and MS
..and they (HMD) were specifically created to bring back Nokia devices.