Carol, 09 Jun 2018I do not make my opinions around interest of the mass. So, i really do not care about what peo... moreHello neighbour! Nice to hear that you're Romanian. I don't give a $hit for brand popularity. I don't own Samsung or iPhone. But they make great things. I do not underestimate them in any way. My daughter used S6 till last month when I bought to her P20 Pro. She decided, instead of iPhone X. For her best option is the camera.
Anyway - my phone is SONY XZ Premium. Sony isn't so popular in these days.
I like the design of XZP. That's why I bought it.
But if I must choose between Sirocco and S8, will buy definitely S8. Better design - I don't like curved screens, but are! Better camera without a hump. Same CPU.
I still keep almost every Nokia that I own in the past. Keeping, and still working PureView 808, Nokia 1020, Nokia 930. So, I'm old die hard NOKIA fan, but still - latest Nokia's are good, but not great as before.
When they reach the level of old Nokia phones - at least in camera department - I'll consider to buy one.
Not all eastern Europeans are blinded by the brand. And it is not just in our region. Look in China, Japan, Australia, UK, USA - they are crazy brand fans. So keep your chin high. We are not low level or quality people.
Yann, 08 Jun 2018Let me guess: you work for HMD, or most probably you wish to work for them and claim nonsense ... moreI do not make my opinions around interest of the mass. So, i really do not care about what people like to buy. They will buy a pile of sh''t if the package would be branded with a "trendy" brand Name. Especially east europeans (Taking other continents out of discussion). I got to know this. I am romanian. Anyhow, the point was: uh, i complain about the curved screen but i recomand to all to buy s8. A device with a curved screen. Realize the hypocrisy in these words? As for this device. It might not be the top of the line. But snapdragon 835 is a great chip. Actually a superchip and i do not see any reason as of why would OEM's not willing to use this chip? Just cause is a trend on buying the next greatest bla bla? Sorry, benchmarks do not worm me. Using the device it self does. And samsung lags after a while no matter what chip it has. In fact, samsung s8 has nothing on my nokia 8. Which is, at this point, the best flagship device ever existed. Great battery life, great build quality, timely updates and great microphones + good camera for not more then 350 Â€. People have to be blind to buy samesung or iphones. But wait, Nokia is not trendy....
I love it...today I saw in the mall very premium and beautiful phone...
Yann, 08 Jun 2018It is your choice, but dimension: Galaxy is 8mm taller, but Sirocco is 5mm wider. That means t... moreThis site says pOLED and AMOLED are pretty much the same. I wouldn't say Sirocco is released one year too late. It is pretty much priced identically as the S8, but the S8 will only have another year or so of system support and updates, while the Sirocco at least 3 (and more frequent). So it is there-there, depends on which compromise one prefers.
As far as the screen size is concerned, I prefer wider and longer, because a) I find longer less balanced for one handed use, balancing out these few milimeters of extra width and b) because wider means more friendly for reading text when used horizontally. But again, that is just my personal view.
Guestuser, 08 Jun 2018The latter two are surely better phones than Sirocco, but it also reflects in the price. Chosi... moreIt is your choice, but dimension: Galaxy is 8mm taller, but Sirocco is 5mm wider. That means that is more uncomfortable to use/operate. Also the S8 have bigger display and it is AMOLED, not pOLED. And the camera on the S8 is much better.
For Samsung software - you say it is slow. I don't think so, cause my daughter used Galaxy S6 since release till May this year, when i bought to her Huawei P20 Pro. She never complain about the UI, for lagging, slowing etc.
The end point for me is: Releasing Sirocco is one year late.
Yann, 08 Jun 2018Let me guess: you work for HMD, or most probably you wish to work for them and claim nonsense ... moreThe latter two are surely better phones than Sirocco, but it also reflects in the price. Chosing between S8 and the Sirocco (the chipset argument gone, the Samsung UI slowing it down, camera not being such a big difference considering the test photos here in GSMArena) I would chose the Sirocco anytime just for its compactness. My opinion only, so feel free to disagree.
Yann, 08 Jun 2018Let me guess: you work for HMD, or most probably you wish to work for them and claim nonsense ... moreInteresting, because where I live, the S8 is only 20 EUR cheaper than 8 Sirocco (which willbe much cheaper in the matter of a few weeks for sure), whereas P20 pro and S9 are between 130 and 150 EUR more expensive. The latter two are surely better phones than Sirocco, but it also reflects in the price. Chosing between S8 and the Sirocco (the chipset argument gone, the Samsung UI slowing it down, camera not being such a big difference considering the test photos here in GSMArena) I would chose the Sirocco anytime just for its compactness. My opinion only, so feel free to disagree.
Carol, 07 Jun 2018Nonsense again. Let me guess, you work their and you know exactly how good the devices sale? ... moreLet me guess: you work for HMD, or most probably you wish to work for them and claim nonsense to defend obvious mistakes in the design and functionality.
I don't own this phone, but i had good look at it in the stores in my country. Nothing special. And yes - not only Nokia make inconvenient curved screens - Samsung made it too.
I'm a fan of good devices, no matter the brand owner.
Nokia Sirocco is just a mixture of design decisions that let the device to that point: good, but not good enough pOLED screen, good, but far from very good camera quality, good, but not enough phone deisgn.
At the end you receive good, but not enough device, for price around 650 Euro and SD835. For lower price in my country you can buy Galaxy S8, S8+, even S9, S9+ with Exynos chipset. And guess: every one of mentioned above phones have better screen, and better camera.
At the end - the consumer decide the faith of the device. In my country - Bulgaria, there is almost zero interest about this phone.
Yann, 07 Jun 2018Nonsense for you, but it doesn't mean that is nonsense for everyone. So, stop writing from th... moreNonsense again. Let me guess, you work their and you know exactly how good the devices sale? And let me guess, samesuns curved screen is not a problem, only nokia's? I like nonsensers like you. Mostly you have no ideea what you claim.
Carol, 06 Jun 2018Nonsense.Nonsense for you, but it doesn't mean that is nonsense for everyone.
So, stop writing from the name of everyone.
The sales of the phone are the biggest true for that device. And they are not great.
At least that fact means that is not nonsense.
Nokia 8 indeed much better than sirocco one. The screen is the best IPS available i think?
Lightning McQueen, 06 Jun 2018Completely diagree with your statement.
1. Curve screen adds gripp to your palm while holdi... more1. Curved screen lead to accidental touch and not so good experience. Not to mention that with such camera hump you must not worry that the phone can slide from your hand. Will stop on it!
2. FPS can be placed on the bottom with such bezel. Look Huawei P20 Pro.
3. Your statistic is wrong. All people around me do not like the humps. You can't place it on the desk without phone to whopping. Uncomfortable to operate.
4. Camera? For medium quality at least they can save the hump. Galaxy S series make great photos and videos without it.
Nokia will be back when they release proper flagship phone. Nokia was never in the middle and low class only.
SD835 on that price? With that summarized functionality? Better take Galaxy S8 or even OnePlus 6 or Xiaomi or whatever... Better for less
Homer-Simpson, 06 Jun 2018Dear Carol, I believe that you are a person who tries to justify the price of 700 euros for a ... moreI am actually not trying to justify nothing. You are trying to justify the fact that you bought a moto. Actually, you just sayingy:, no device is worthy of 700Â€ cause well, their are device way cheaper that do the same thing. True! True in tablets area, true in Computing/pc area, true in cars area. All do accomplish the same task. The problem is how! Some people are ok with one fiat punto for 10.000 Â€. Others are not. They want 150.000 euro bmw x7. Some are ok with a 100 euro tablet. Other want 400 to 1500 euro tablets. Some are ok with intel atom. I am not. I want intel icore 7 cause is just better. Stop trying to compare your phone with this one. It ain't gonna cut it. And your x4 has snapdragon 630 not 636.
Carol, 06 Jun 2018I see no problems with the screen. Every sceen in all devices has somekind of problem. Hack, ... moreTrue, I've seen people genuinely happy with this phone. Perhaps I was a bit too hasty in my dismissal of this phone. My apologies.
Carol, 06 Jun 2018P.s. with that money, people can get nokia 6.1. Better screen. Timly security updates, better ... moreDear Carol, I believe that you are a person who tries to justify the price of 700 euros for a phone, the Nokia Scirocco, which my Moto X4 does all the same as that phone does, and spend that pile of money on a phone where My Moto X4 for 250 euros does all the same: What does it matter to me that the Snapdragon 835 runs 2 thousandths of a second more than the 636? Nothing, so do not try to justify the unjustifiable. With 64 GB of storage and 4 GB of RAM (I remind you that there is a version of the Moto X4 with 6 GB of RAM), the operation of the Moto X4 is fantastic. Oh, and I remind you that the Google Camera app can be installed on my Moto X4, so the photos are of excellent quality. You can continue talking to me about what you want, but I just spent 250 euros and I have EVERYTHING I want, and if you have to spend 750 euros in this Nokia it shows me that, or you care little about money, or you are very unintelligent.
Yann, 05 Jun 2018Completely agree with you.
1. Bad quality display with curved edges - unc... moreCompletely diagree with your statement.
1. Curve screen adds gripp to your palm while holding to your phone.
2. Nokia is not ready to go for in display fingerprint scanner. At least their FPS position is good, not like you see on the XZ2 which is so low.
3. 8/10 people around the world won't care about camera hump including me. :)
4. Yes, Nokia 8 sirocco camera quality photo and video is not great, but..."AT LEAST THEY TRIED TO PUT IN THEIR EFFORT"!!!!
Conclusion: Nokia is really back, but needs to work on more improvement and satisfactory towards the customers/ buyers/ consumer.