Sergi, 30 Aug 2018Tiny little things are all that matter now since all the phone techs are pretty close to each ... moreGreat then if you couldn't clearly get the point then that means all the other tiny and big areas where the more display is superior counts for a lot more. Anf that one tiny little thing in that link doesn't even show the victory claimed for Sony. I was just making a point
Primark, 29 Aug 2018Again you are just generalizing and not being specific, so again you have nothing to backup yo... moreBecause there is nothing to be specific. Nothing in its worth the price. Nothing the company does justifies the price compared to others. It's that simple.
Anonymous, 29 Aug 2018One tiny way you think it's better that it's not means its all superiorTiny little things are all that matter now since all the phone techs are pretty close to each other...
Foundation, 29 Aug 2018Not really. Most of the time P20 Pro won IN AUTO 10MP and that's no surprise given its larger ... moreP20 Pro in both 10MP and Night Mode absolutely ruins the night photography. You have no sense that it's night time, it looks like a dusk photo that got bad white balance or bad exposure. No one freaking expects to see clouds in night sky cause no one sees them in real life anyway. Point of night photography is to have the true white area and true black area and everything in between to show up details, it's all about the contrast. Trick question is how little of blown highlights and pitch black are you going to leave to balance out everything in between.
I'm not a fan of what was shown on that video. While Sony completely overkills the highlights to the point of no details P20 completely erases them like they are not there. Look at the picture of the road that's split by an island with billboards, on P20 it looks like it was shot at sunrise. There is no single black area to suggest it's in the middle of the night and even sky is cyan blue instead of deep blue. And people voting shows how little they know about night time pictures.
Fountain is the same thing. If you are shooting super bright object in the middle of the night everything behind it should really be a lot darker. P20 10MP and XZ2P did it almost right but that Night mode made a mess out of it but showing up the tree and building and clouds etc. And once again people voting have no clue what are they voting for as they pick Night mode
Primark, 29 Aug 2018I saw the video and noticed that the reviewer really tried his best to get the best possible o... moreNot really. Most of the time P20 Pro won IN AUTO 10MP and that's no surprise given its larger sensor. You can change white balance in the post with ease, but you can't recover heavily processed and smeared details and blown up highlights or crushed shadows.
nothing-, 29 Aug 2018I have a ate 10 pro a di haven't used the light painting option. Yeah it may be a cool feature... moreIf you shoot in RAW and restrict ISO to somewhere around 50 or 100 you'll get a RAW image which is a lot better than crappy heavily processed JPEG from XZ2 Premium. The same goes for Note 9.
Anonymous, 29 Aug 2018Scaling down to 8 megapixels actually result to the same conclusion: That the older pixel 2 X... moreHave you seen these?
I thought there was barely a difference between the performance, but there actually is a significant difference and it tips in favor of sony so...
Like Mike, 29 Aug 2018When I scale down to 8MP (which is only fair option since you can't upscale P20 Pro 10MP) the ... moreScaling down to 8 megapixels actually result to the same conclusion: That the older pixel 2 XL phone despite being at 2 stops higher ISO setting performs significantly better in low light. And it costs less. It only cements the conclusion that the XZ2 Premium has nothing 'premium' to offer in the claimed 'low light photography prowess'. As the GSMArena team has said, there's no sense in buying it at its current high price because one can get better low light camera performance for much less. And if as you said, photos captured by XZ2 premium are for mobile viewing only, then you might as well buy the Pocophone from Xiaomi and use the savings to buy a Sony Playstation. At least, you're still supporting Sony.
Anonymous, 29 Aug 2018The Pixel 2XL for sure. And ironically, it's an older phone.
Pay particular attention to spo... moreWhen I scale down to 8MP (which is only fair option since you can't upscale P20 Pro 10MP) the only thing I see is how XZ2P preserves the details and has the least amount of blur compared to the two. You can clearly see preserved texture everywhere especially on rods of wooden counting toy. What XZ2P does dramatically worse than the other two is amateurish sharpening to the point of ghosting effect and cranking up the color contrast into oblivion. When it comes to noise you can always remove it but you can't never add it if the image doesn't have enough data to replicate details properly.
In my opinion low light photography is about preserving the detail in general, exposing details in dark areas, preserving the ambient color (light wash), containing the highlights and not exhibiting blur or smearing. So far XZ2P does the most except containing the highlights along side what I've already mentioned by cranking up the contrast/saturation and over sharpening to amateurish levels.
In all honesty neither three of them are any good in that benchmark low light situation. Post processing and lack of quality is evident on all three and all three exhibit it in different way.
Once you are ok that mobile camera's purpose is to take images and videos that are to be viewed on mobile screens only then there is no need for a debate which crap smells the least.
Anonymous, 29 Aug 2018If you can't clearly understand how then you don't know what you are talking about to imply it... moreAgain you are just generalizing and not being specific, so again you have nothing to backup your claim, I am merely trying to point out the flaws in your statement. Just because two phones have nearly Identical specification on paper, doesn't mean that they are of the same quality and should be priced near each other.
I'll give you a very simple example,
You can find similarly speced motherboards with stiff difference in prices simply because the more expensive one have better fail safe capabilities than the cheaper one. Thanks for trying to engage in a civilized discussion by the way.
Shui8, 29 Aug 2018U get the answer by watching this: https://youtu.be/eX_n49j1oc4 Sony got really bad expose... moreI saw the video and noticed that the reviewer really tried his best to get the best possible ouput for the p20 pro, so...
Primark, 29 Aug 2018How can you claim that nothing in it is worth the price? Do you have a detailed list of whatev... moreIf you can't clearly understand how then you don't know what you are talking about to imply it's wrong.
Nothing in it compared others in hardware or software makers or anywhere near or worth that price. Including r&d and customer service costs too. It's simple logic and facts.
It dethroned pixel 2xl as most over priced of droids
Foundation, 29 Aug 2018If you use tripod and manual mode P20 Pro(or any other high end smartphones with decent manual... moreI have a ate 10 pro a di haven't used the light painting option. Yeah it may be a cool feature but we are talking about stills not light painting. Have you read the reviews of P20 Pro? The 40 MP manual mode is useless compared to the default 10MP resolution.
While the XZ2 (standard) wins in a tripod picture (night s en compared with pixel, iPhone and note 8 comparison if I am not mistaken
xXENDER FREAKXx, 29 Aug 2018I really hope they can change their design. It looks modern, but there's more bulk and more in... moreI am not a fan with the current design either, I prefer the old design, regarding the note 9, I really like its stylus, here's hoping that sony comes with its own implementation.
Anonymous, 29 Aug 2018Mainly reviews clearly showed it's not the best. And regardless just because something has a t... moreHow can you claim that nothing in it is worth the price? Do you have a detailed list of whatever is in it to even support that? Anyways please enlighten us and don't just generalize, I would like a good discussion.
I really hope they can change their design. It looks modern, but there's more bulk and more inconvenience to the design. Have been anticipating for the Mirai design they have talked about before and I hope that Sony isn't referring to this design. The XPERIA XZ2 I have may not look as thick as it is in photos, but u can definitely feel the bulk to it. It feels comfortable, but with the compromise of not staying stationary on the table, I'd rather stick with my XPERIA XZ as my daily driver (Which is what I did), and put my XPERIA XZ2 as another smartphone of my collection that has yet to convince me. Same can be said to this XPERIA XZ2 PREMIUM, with more bulk which I don't know why and more inconvenience, because of the addition of one more camera on the rear. At least there's some aspects of it that I'm impressed at, the 4K display (Which isn't a big deal for me, I'm already satisfied with FHD), Dynamic Vibration System (Which I don't give a damn about but it's still a decent feature), and the camera (Especially the Ultra-High Sensitivity). And of course, all of these comes with a price that I think it's too overpriced, given the fact that smartphones at this price like the GALAXY NOTE 9 gives more features, but I'm not saying it's a bad phone, it's just that the price makes it not as competitive as others...
Anonymous, 29 Aug 2018Lol, that guy takes 3 different shots using P20, and only one on XZP2? And see how many down v... moreWell, all the downvotes have been done by Sony fanboys who actually thought 1/2.3 inch sensor with mediocre image processing would beat 1/1.7 inch one with one-shot HDR mechanism built into the sensor itself... Physics will always win.
And even if he had compared P20 Pro's 10MP photos and XZ2 Premium's 17MP photos ONLY, it would've made no difference at all: P20 Pro would crush XZ2 Premium. You can change the white balance of a photo afterwards, but you definitely can't recover crushed shadows, blown up highlights and overly noise-reduced details.