Nick Tagataka, 14 Sep 2018The problem is that HDR10 video recording capability is an extremely rare feature which litera... moreIt's obviously still niche since it's relatively new still.
But the benefits are present and cannot be ignored.
Recording one doesn't just need a DRAM. It also needs a powerful ISP that could handle that much data, and the sensor itself must also be capable of seeing 10 bit colors.
Stabilization will be limited of course, but the usage of this video recording will mostly be for professional use, in which the users will invest for a good gimball rig or such.
This feature is beyond half-baked. Not perfect, but certainly usable and functional. When done right, it could provide seriously stunning results that blow anything else away. From well-exposed scenes to great variety of colors, 4K HDR video recording just takes video recording to a whole new level of experience. Who knows, maybe in the future, smartphones will be used to film movies already.
Shanti Dope, 14 Sep 2018I hope you realize that I'm actually trying to prove how much better the XZ3 is against the No... moreWell... that's just pointless. Note 9 is simply an overall, better rounded device out of 2.
Note 9 doesn't lack in any specific area - Great design + ergonomics, class-leading display, great battery life, flagship-worthy performance + feature-rich and bug-free software that no longer exhibits lags, great camera in both stills and video, great stereo speakers + a headphone jack with one of the best audio output quality, and S-Pen if you're a fan of stylus(well, I'm not, but there are definitely some people who like using one on a phone).
In order to compete with Note, a phone must be at least equally good in every single section I mentioned above. Only some phones such as iPhone Xs or upcoming Mate 20 Pro, which are also expected to be a great all rounder device, can match Note for instance. XZ3 doesn't have particularly excellent display, design, camera, or battery etc. compared to Note, and yes, the price of Sony flagships will drop shortly after their release, but then that's going to be more about the better "bang for the buck" and not the overall quality as a product. It's like comparing OnePlus 6 to Galaxy S9, OnePlus 6 offers more FOR THE PRICE, while S9 quite literally offers MORE FEATURES.
Nick Tagataka, 14 Sep 2018P20 Pro packs a 24MP front-facing camera(which is probably roughly around 1/2.8 inch diagonall... moreEarpiece speaker isn't as good as on the XZ3, which is larger than that of the P20 Pro.
Front camera sensor is just larger in size, but image quality is lower than that of the XZ3's. It doesn't even have autofocus.
Huawei crammed everything too much inside, and could be critical for the internals when the phone is damaged. Sony doesn't have a camera bump, and that is, the XZ3 has a thicker sensor due to its real memory-embedded sensor (P20 Pro only uses software for 960fps super slow motion).
Sony didn't want to reach those levels. They are concerned more on the practicality side, where in reality, you'd need the extra space more than you'd want it to be shaved off.
I took this realization from the fact that there are no multimedia device I've tried to use and be as good as Sony phones are.
Shanti Dope, 14 Sep 2018And it says what?
Galaxy phones only coped up because of higher brightness levels, and have n... moreSony HDR sucks.
According to the review.
"However, not all HDR-certified devices are created equal and it is worth noting that by all accounts, the panel on the XZ3 is on the lower end of that spectrum.''
"VESA has a competing and arguably more precise HDR standard, in recently released, which defines three tiers of HDR (HDR 400, HDR 600 and HDR 1000). Without digging too deep into the standard itself, we can clearly see the XZ3 only covers the first level. The point we are trying to drive across here is that, as far as HDR screens go, the XZ3 is not the end-all of mobile devices".
Brightness and color accuracy sucks too.
kakouille, 14 Sep 2018Did you read the review?
"Hence, a more OLED-relevant standard was developed by the Ultra HD ... moreAnd it says what?
Galaxy phones only coped up because of higher brightness levels, and have nothing to do with color gamut, in which the XZ3 covers wider range than the Note 9.
Why no microscope shot of the xz3 screen? Are they using an RGB OLED or a Pentile?
Oh but sonys display is the absolute best!!!
At least they improved the camera processing a bit lol
Shanti Dope, 14 Sep 2018It can. Nobody said it can't. But 4K HDR is a different thing from standard 4K, which the Not... moreThe problem is that HDR10 video recording capability is an extremely rare feature which literally no average consumer will give a damn about, and it's even more niche compared to something like super slow-mo or 4K60fps recording. The stabilisation is limited since this type of HDR recording is extremely processor intensive, and its framerate is also capped at 24fps so the whole footage will look shaky and junky. That might explain why Samsung decided not to enable HDR10 recording on Note 9 even though it is technically possible(DRAM is required for this feature, and Note 9's main sensor has one): they just don't want to confuse their customers with half-baked features which are rarely used.
Shanti Dope, 14 Sep 2018The issue is that the internals of the bezels require that much space. The front camera is 1/... moreP20 Pro packs a 24MP front-facing camera(which is probably roughly around 1/2.8 inch diagonally) and the earpiece which acts as a secondary speaker, yet height of the notch is noticeably shorter than that of the top bezel on XZ3. And Huawei then managed to pack 3 cameras on the back, one of which is a large 1/1.7 in sensor, and huge 4000mAh battery, all in more than 2mm thinner body. So Sony could've cut down the bezels to Galaxy S9/Mate 10 Pro level, if that was what they really wanted to do.
Shanti Dope, 14 Sep 2018Nope
Samsung's panel is roughly just 8-bit with some software enhancements to reach near 10-b... moreDid you read the review?
"Hence, a more OLED-relevant standard was developed by the Ultra HD alliance, requiring 540 cd/m2, the same blacks and a contrast of at least 1,080,000:1. Our standard tests measure brightness with the test pattern filling 75% of the area of the panel - a case in which the XZ3 fails to meet those requirements. But is should be noted that competing offers, like on recent Samsung devices do manage to cope.
Clearly, Sony has put quite a bit of effort on the HDR front, facilitating easy capture and playback. And for most users, those two points will be more than enough. However, not all HDR-certified devices are created equal and it is worth noting that by all accounts, the panel on the XZ3 is on the lower end of that spectrum.''
VESA has a competing and arguably more precise HDR standard, in recently released, which defines three tiers of HDR (HDR 400, HDR 600 and HDR 1000). Without digging too deep into the standard itself, we can clearly see the XZ3 only covers the first level. The point we are trying to drive across here is that, as far as HDR screens go, the XZ3 is not the end-all of mobile devices. Something we felt we had to address, after reading some of the discussions about Sony's latest flagship.''
abubasim, 14 Sep 2018Closer to a RAW file? A RAW file is unprocessed. Sony's camera applies way too much of it, wit... moreWith all the chromatic noise left, I would say it almost had no noise reduction at all. But yep, it's not close to RAW.
Subzero, 14 Sep 2018Where is the real difference with "NEW" camera software???
Sudio comparison XZ2 vs XZ3 shows ... moreNew software is now more happy to use higher ISO values.
Exposure is better as a result, and dynamic range was also improved quite a bit.
TheGreyApe, 14 Sep 2018Surely though if they expanded the screen down so it was flush with the bottom of the phone it... moreYeah it will have less bezels, but it would look hideous.
It would look like the Mi Mix 2S, which in itself already looks odd to me.
S9 without curved edges is the best as it could get.
Anonymous, 14 Sep 2018Stop it...only LG oled display technology is superior, may it be as the largest to the smalles... more"the s9+ does have the superior display"
from the review.
Read it again.
And LG oled phone display sucks big time.
Shanti Dope, 14 Sep 2018The issue is that the internals of the bezels require that much space. The front camera is 1/... moreSurely though if they expanded the screen down so it was flush with the bottom of the phone it would look 100x better
Lordford, 14 Sep 2018Lol no .
Oled XZ3 IS superior.
XZ2 oled is HDR rec 2020 Plays 1,073,741,824 colors, am... moreIf you don't believe gsmarena then what are you doing here?
According to the review, Samsung display is better, much better in brightness, hdr and color accuracy.
Where is the real difference with "NEW" camera software???
Sudio comparison XZ2 vs XZ3 shows that XZ2 shows more details
Anonymous, 14 Sep 2018XZ3 does not use stacking. Not even their Mirrorless have it..
Sony decided to tune down ... moreCloser to a RAW file? A RAW file is unprocessed. Sony's camera applies way too much of it, with no way of tuning it down, and isn't offering third party apps any control over this either.
Read Menneisyys' article at dpreview to understand what 'near RAW' looks like. I won't post the link here as it will get flagged as spam. Just google for 'TIPS: Getting the most out of the Note 4 camera in broad daylight + using VERY high shutter speeds'.
TheGreyApe, 14 Sep 2018They could have improved the screen design so much by removing the tacky Sony logo at the bott... moreThe issue is that the internals of the bezels require that much space.
The front camera is 1/3.06" large, while the speakers are quite large as well.
Asymmetrical bezels don't look good IMO. That's why I'm quite bothered with my Redmi 5 Plus, which has smaller top bezel than the bottom bezel.
The only thing you guys really testet is the Camera (maybe) and some datasheet specs.
First of all, the Sony has the better Screen than any of those phones... they simply have the advantage and knowledge. Their Bravia Engine and skin tones are unmatched.
The battery Life? the P20Pro is a joke compared to the one year old XZ premium which had a 4K display and 20% less capacity... let sink it in. (i tested both while the XZ was already one year in use... -.-)
The overall Performance was always the best on sony phones, Let alone the benchmark results... its well known that samsung has algoritms which can detect a benchmark and overclock and/or block background tasks to improve the results.
Whats ABOUT LDAC and High Resolution Audio... ? The Speakers are good, but their High res technology is unmached since the z1.