Xs has good cam,performance and longer support software updates but it is still very expensive.note 9 has good display and batter life and it is cheap and i am happy with camera quality.
Its your personal preference.
DD, 06 Dec 2018But Note 9 is still uglyWhat do you know about note9😂
will75, 16 Oct 2018Loving the iphone max. Best phone out there. And now I have the best camera over sammy lol. Now note 9 has night mode and camera gets an update to improve camera quality compare to my sisters xs note 9 is way better.
I can't imagine myself using a phone without manual mode camera.
I Love to shoot stars, nightsky, and poorly illuminated wilderness shots. And I hate go to tracking, camping and adventuring in the wilderness carrying a big DSLR. I would never spend hours in a rainy forest, bath on waterfalls and ENJOY my time in the wilderness carrying that kind of bulk.
The cellphone is the best most practical camera for that in my case.
Some shots are impossible to do in a cellphone without manual mode. Like a a nightsky shot with the shadows of the threes below and in front of them.
I go to these places to have good times, not to sell pictures to magazines. But I still want to register my moments in the best way I can.
Note7 owner, 22 Oct 2018Man the note 9 looks ugly next to the iPhone. Maybe yes. But what the Note 9 lacks in external looks, it makes up for internal capabilites like its superior camera capabilities.
When you are comparing two cameras, we can not get any idea about color reproduction of those cameras. Because we do not know the actual colors. If you can provide some samples taken from at least a full frame camera showing natural colors, it will be more help full
Anonymous, 21 Oct 2018Thank you for our conversation, but I am out. There are too many logical fallacies that you me... moreJust as I suspected. You never had a dSLR--- or any interchangeable lens camera for that matter. For a while, I thought you were someone well versed in photography until your answers provided me clues of your photographic innocence. Your latest answer below regarding stopping down a "mainstream" fast F/1.4 lens just so I can attempt to "get them anywhere near premium lenses in terms of quality" is another proof of this photographic innocence. Photographers do not stop down fast f/1.4 lenses to make them "match or resemble more expensive lenses in photographic quality". It's an answer that can never come from a person who knows photography. No need to go on with this conversation. I can perfectly understand why you will never miss manual controls in a phone camera app.
Anonymous, 21 Oct 2018Let me ask you honestly, do you own and use a dSLR or a mirrorless interchangeable lens camera... moreThank you for our conversation, but I am out. There are too many logical fallacies that you mention and consider them to be facts/proof, so all I can recommend is to get more experience and knowledge in photography. It’s not hard, you just have to want to take the journey there - that is if you are actually interested in this.
As for gear, I have “some” insight on the mainstream vs. premium lenses. Indeed, as you and everyone else says, and it’s a fact, you get diminishing results the more money you pay, but that is normal for every premium product you can buy. A $300,000 car is not ten times faster than a $30,000 car. A $10,000 pair of very high fidelity speakers is not 10x louder or bassy-er than a $1,000 pair. In fact, they might be even quieter than the “cheaper” ones. You can either accept it or complain about it endlessly, but that 5-10% extra on top of the mainstream quality will always go up almost exponentially in price.
You can stop down fast, mainstream lenses, but they will not get anywhere near premium lenses in terms of image quality. This has more to do with the quality of the glass, the coating(s) or the lack thereoff, and the optical formula.
Also, most photographers understand and cherish natural-looking colours and tones, so guess which one of these two phones wins. By preferring samsung’s derailed colours, it can only mean that you are at the start of your photographic journey, but no worries, take your time and discover more.
Search for “iPhone manual camera” apps if you really need such things. There are tons of them.
I shoot manual most of the time on my cameras, but I have almost never felt the need to go beyond automatic on my phones.
AnonD-706668, 20 Oct 2018I would rather buy Sony Alpha 6000L...which price is more cheaper and image quality is top not... moreSony interchangeable lens cameras are great but I prefer Canon colors best - perfect skin tones regardless of whether the subject is black, white, brown, or anything in between.
Anonymous, 20 Oct 2018It has been mentioned before: download a fully manual camera app from the store. Or is that to... moreWhich fully manual camera app you can download from the appstore can provide the iphone with a manual, user defined color temperature, tint, contrast level, saturation level, highlight, and shadow preset so that all photos and videos taken will apply the user's preferred custom settings in each and every photo and video? Additionally, can the iPhone app select between an f/1.5 and f/2.4 aperture? Does it have micro sd storage expansion for recording high quality 4K 60fps videos without storage limitations? How about a huge battery to support all flash and non flash photographic needs of the user? As you can see, it's a no contest between the iphone XS Max and Note 9. The iPhone XS Max truly looks like a toy camera compared to the Note 9's capabilities, and I'm not only referring to manual camera controls only.
Sorry if I question your grasp of photography but your original comment below:
"f/1.4 lenses are nowhere as good as f/2.8 or f/3.5 lenses. Best and most expensive lenses overall are never the fastest. So you bragging about owning fast lenses just shows how little understanding you have about how photography works."
seems to show to me you don't have enough basic photography knowledge to start even arguing with me. F/1.4 prime lenses are not limited to F/1.4. You can stop them down and have F/2.0, F/2.8, F/4. 0/, F/5.6 etc.
Anonymous, 20 Oct 2018Ha! So shallow judgement of the photography world and little understanding of what good qualit... moreLet me ask you honestly, do you own and use a dSLR or a mirrorless interchangeable lens camera extensively/regularly? Do you have a set of lenses other than the basic kit lenses that came packaged with the camera? If not, then I can understand why you will never appreciate a manual mode on Apple's iPhone camera app and why you defend it at all costs.
For now, I must make a correction though. Not all Zeiss and Leica owners I've met were lens snobs. Some were kind enough to admit they were not worth their price for the miniscule performance improvement they offer - that is, diminishing returns.
Anonymous, 20 Oct 2018Of course mobile phones need manual camera controls, more so because you need to limit the ISO... moreHa! So shallow judgement of the photography world and little understanding of what good quality images are made of. That’s exactly why Leica and Zeiss lenses are so expensive. They can be 10x the price of a mainstream consumer lens, while bringing only 5% more quality in their images. But it’s the 5% that counts and pictures taken with such lenses can be edited to look like those taken with mainstream lenses, while you can never take a photo from a mainstream lens and make it get the Leica or Zeiss look. I will explain this to you, just because it’s a Saturday evening and I have a cold and thus staying inside. It’s called “microcontrast” and you cannot simulate it with any amount of editing you do.
And since your knowledge of photography seems to be very superficial, I guess it’s ok to share some good new with thy: you can buy used Leica lenses for as little as £500/€600/$700-ish. It’s actually funny I’m talking about Leica and Zeiss when in fact I am and have been paid by the N brand to take pictures around on many of their projects for the past 5 years.
Indeed there are N lenses which are superb and under the $500 mark, sometimes even under $200, but they don’t excel in all conditions you throw them in. Unlike the L and the Z brand lenses which are consistent in heir performance. This is what Apple’s products provide too: consistent performance and user experience.
Besides, I bet you know how to download a camera app from the store and get access to manual controls if you really need it. Whatever you want, there’s an app for that.