I'd like to add, Google's night sight feature has been ported on the sub $300 Pocophone F1. And its got manual controls too in its native camera app. Still, if you really want bragging rights, then go ahead waste $1,000++ on a phone that tops DXOmark's mobile camera ratings instead of buying a real camera.
realitychecker, 31 Mar 2019you have a wrong impression on me sir. i am not buying a phone because of the camera, who does... moreOk. So you are not buying a $1,000++ smartphone mainly because of the camera? And also, that nobody buys a $1,000++ phone mainly for the camera? What's your main reason then why you would be willing shell out $1,000 for a flagship phone? Processor speed? storage? RAM? 5G? Screen size? Well you can get all those in a sub $500 smartphone. Take away the snapdragon 855 (5G) and replace it with snapdragon 845 (4G) and you can get a sub $300 smartphone for that price. Don't you see? There's absolutely no reason why anyone should spend $1,000++ on a smartphone to get better photos (the main selling point of these ultra expensive smartphones). People deserve to know the PREDATORY pricing (excessive pricing) is all part of PRESTIGE marketing. Now if you buy a $1,000++ phone for the bragging rights, then by all means, do so. It's your money. But for the rest who value money and who really want excellent photos no smartphone can ever claim to even come close to, buy a $300 phone and learn to use manual controls. Save the change for a real camera if it's what's tempting you to waste $1,000 on a smartphone upgrade.
All listed cons are things I have absolutely no use for. In for a preorder.
Absolutely loving this beast, been using it for the past 3 days and the battery life alone has been insane.
Huawei have knocked this one out the park, particularly with the Camera, I love how it keeps Focus even at 50x Digital Zoom
Anonymous, 31 Mar 2019The feeling is mutual. ;) wait are you the "other guy" or the "dont buy that just buy a dslr guy". im confused. for goodness sake just register here ppl. lols.
Anonymous, 31 Mar 2019Yes, you're right. I don't. But I do have the right to burst the hype bubble - on manufacturer... morealso, i would not consider myself to buy a budget/midranger then spend the rest for a dslr plus kits and all those good stuffs your talking about, for one im not a photographer and second it would not fit my lifestyle.
Anonymous, 31 Mar 2019Yes. Go ahead spend $1000++ on a phone because you really do believe the low light photo quali... moreyou have a wrong impression on me sir. i am not buying a phone because of the camera, who does? there are MANY factors to consider not just camera. like battery, sound quality, display among other things. it just so happen that these huawei devices fit the bill for me. why are so affected anyways? lols.
Anonymous, 31 Mar 2019Yes, you're right. I don't. But I do have the right to burst the hype bubble - on manufacturer... morewhy do you sound like i was buying the phone because of the camera? uhmm. sorry to break to you but no.
---as the native camera app in some phones like in Samsungs, Huawei's, Xiaomi's and LG's flagships.
rick, 31 Mar 2019buy p30 pro or LGv40 (if you need music quality & videography features also) . S10 don't h... moreManual photo and video controls in a smartphone are not hype. I use them all the time. They are hype to those who don't know how to use them because they have no idea how dumb the phone's auto modes can get in certain situations.
Manual focus is mandatory for fireworks and other low light photos/videos to avoid focus hunting during periods of darkness and sudden brightness.
Manual ISO's and shutter speeds are essential in low light to control high ISO noise that can ruin a 4K UHD video footage that makes it look like it was shot on full HD or worse, SD quality due to excessive high ISO noise reduction.
Manual focus is also essential for taking videos of subjects behind railings or cages or anything that will cause the camera's auto focus to hunt back and forth.
Manual ISO and manual shutter speed is essential for good low light photos. Learn photography/videography basics and you will realize why manual controls are essential and a must have in any smartphone purporting to be a photography or videography powerhouse. That is essentially what makes Pixel phones and iphones poor choices for me. They don't have built-in manual controls. Although you can download camera apps with some manual controls, they don't have the same extensive manual controls flexibility as the native camera app.
realitychecker, 31 Mar 2019you dont have the right to tell me what i can and cant do with my money sir. i can buy whateve... moreYes, you're right. I don't. But I do have the right to burst the hype bubble - on manufacturers making excessive claims about their smartphone's photographic, 'PRO' photo capabilites and perpetuating the myth that you need to upgrade to a $1000++ phone if you want the best low light photos. The smartphone industry is the only tech industry that has matured (even slowed down) and has intense cut throat competition and yet, the prices keep going up because of the claim to improved photographic capabilities. (the single strongest point for a flagship phone upgrade). I'd rather spend that same amount on a $300 entry level dSLR with kit lens + a $400 30mm f/1.4 prime lens and save the $300 (or use it to buy a new phone/phablet).
buy p30 pro or LGv40 (if you need music quality & videography features also) . S10 don't have 30s aperture nor manual video controls . but just hype
realitychecker, 31 Mar 2019in this fast paced world, id take portability anytime of the day. yes, those dslr cameras take... moreYes. Go ahead spend $1000++ on a phone because you really do believe the low light photo quality and the longevity of the phone as a 'serious' photographic tool is worth spending $1,000++ on. I'm sure you'll be itching to upgrade to a new phone everytime a new model comes up offering even more camera modules, more megapixels, more zoom, and higher Dxomobile rating. Smartphone manufacturers for sure will love to have more users like you who upgrade to a new phone everytime some new phone model tops DXOmark mobile's camera rating system. :)
realitychecker, 31 Mar 2019you entirely missed the point of the other guy. i laughed. The feeling is mutual. ;)
Anonymous, 30 Mar 2019Yes, you're right. I don't have my dSLR with me all the time, not like my phone which is alway... moreyou dont have the right to tell me what i can and cant do with my money sir. i can buy whatever i want especially these new flagship phones. but not this p30 series, i will. wait for mate 30 series with their new chipsets, since im into that lineup of huawei. currently using mate20pro and s9.
Anonymous, 30 Mar 2019Yes, it is so premium and so 'PRO' so as to be worth $1000... At least that's what smartphone ... morein this fast paced world, id take portability anytime of the day. yes, those dslr cameras take great photos but at least i got something that can, you know, do something else? other than taking photo. pricing is not an issue for me so my preference is always for the flagships.
Sunlight contrast ratio of the iPhone XS in the Xiaomi mi 9 review is 5.171.
In this review it is not mentioned, only the Xs max at a much lower 4.5.
LOL, 30 Mar 2019You aren't going to bring around a 'real camera' with you all the time.
However, as of 2019... moreYes, you're right. I don't have my dSLR with me all the time, not like my phone which is always around. However, when there are important/memorable events or occasions, you can be sure I will never leave the event at the mercy of the smartphone's image quality.
I will always bring my dSLR with me for as long as the event is a scheduled one or can be anticipated.
My post is not about refusing to buy an expensive photo specialist or photo-centric phone. In fact, you should buy a smartphone with very good photo capabilities AND manual camera controls (manual ISO, adjustable shutter speed, manual focus, etc.), because certain photographic situations worth capturing can occasionally present themselves when you least expect them (when you don't have your dSLR with you).
However, as I said in my earlier posts, you absolutely don't need to buy a $1,000++ phone to get better low light photo quality. And if you have a 2-3 year old flagship phone, you absolutely don't need to upgrade to a $1,000++ phone just to get better low light photos. Learning how to use manual camera controls and learning photography basics will dramatically bring more improvement to your low light photo quality than wasting money on a $1,000 phone falsely claiming to be able to capture dSLR like photo quality or even as much as claiming to replace a dSLR with a bag of lenses (like what Gsmarena once said in a review). As mentioned, save your money or use it instead to buy a real camera than waste it on a $1,000++ smartphone upgrade.
Anonymous, 30 Mar 2019Yes, it is so premium and so 'PRO' so as to be worth $1000... At least that's what smartphone ... moreYou aren't going to bring around a 'real camera' with you all the time.
However, as of 2019, you are very likely to have a phone with you all the time.
Therefore, the extra quality in the phone cameras is very welcome, especially if you want to capture all the great moments when you do not have a 'real camera'.
Android phone prices drop quite quickly, you can always buy half a year or one year after launch to get the best deal. And further reduce the price with a telco contract subsidy.