Shui8, 06 Apr 2019The camera looks the most overprocessed pictures i've ever seen. Not to my liking at all. T... morei have this with me and your not sure about what you are saying sir. my n9pureview captures rich images/natural images compares to most high end phones way back 2018 until now.
Nick Tagataka, 06 Apr 2019I'm not quite sure why HMD even allowed this phone to carry the PureView brand name. The way i... moreyou don't understand what it's camera for. its for us photographers that uses dslr in manual mode. not just a shoot then post on and photo social apps out there. and im a professional programmer and i prefer and 101% recommend google to code for their camera app because google own's the android os. they can penetrate the code by a unique way without opening the source code for public use.
A shame couldn't live up to expectations.... So it's doomed even before it's launch, . Let's face it HMD is still not there yet to compete with the big boys ....maybe in two or three years if they keep doing thing right
ZolaIII, 06 Apr 20191) Lumias with original pure view sensor ware not so fat while that sensor is still superior t... moreThe old lumias were small like XZ1, but much thicker and with much less battery.
No brand will make a phone near 2cm ( not counting that brick called Energizer with 18000 mAh) and few more milimeters of cam.
The cam module with smaller sensor like 1/3", 1/2.5" and 1/2.3" dont have more than 4 mm thickness. 1/1.2" would be double. Not counting the space it needs horizontally. 1/1.7" has 2x the size of 1/2.5" already.
Google Pixel had so far 1/2.3" then 1/2.55"... Not 1/2.9".
Samsung phones use 8bit 60Hz oled, same story for iphone.
There is no EIS for 4K60. This mode takes so much on the phone that the processing power does not have strength enough to provide the electronic stabilization. That is why few brands with SD845/855 do not offer.
OnePlus and Xiaomi use many cheaper components from local suppliers. Xiaomi makes more than 2 bi dollars/year with Miui adds. It helps with price.
Just the materials bill of s10+ is $430, while whole mi9 ready to be sold ( taxes, profits, distribution, R/D, work force etc) is $490.
Ppl still have the big dream that phones from Xiaomi, Honor and OnePlus cost the same as Samsung, Sony, Apple, Htc, Huawei (P, Mate) or LG to be made.
Crazy how the phone always shot at ISO6400 in low light. Even though it lacks OIS it shouldn't go as high ISO as that.
Plus it got 5 cameras to work with, if anything it should be able to shot at lower ISO.
Hope they consider to go back to large sensor size like the two original Pureviews. Clearly, multiple cameras solution didn't work quite well.They should've learn from Huawei P10 or Xperia XZ2 Premium.
Khaled6869, 06 Apr 2019of course I can be wrong in some things, I can correct the mistakes.
the iPhone Xs and Xs M... moreNo, iphones are not 2m.
The 1,5m value is determinated by international rules according to tests.
IP67 is 1m + 30 min, IP68 is 1,5m + 30 min.
Khaled6869, 06 Apr 2019120 Hz works with the Super AMOLED panels on the iPhone XS and XS Max, don't forget thatIphones do not have have 120Hz like iPad.
It is just the touch.
Dhruv, 06 Apr 2019Dude only lg manufactures oled. Mo one else does. So where ever u see oled it's lgP-oled is just commercial name like Samsung calls their as SuperAmoled.
All oled for mobile have active matrix.
Colors and detail in daylight stills is actually most close to xz2c, which is still the best in capturing hdr detail. Pretty awesome for the killed compact line. May xperia1 get better... Cannot wait, even with nokia9 looking better than the others, it's worse than 1 in colors, just when it's coming...
ZolaIII, 06 Apr 2019Response rate (Hz) is more tied to the matrix than emitting diodes them self. So you have only... moreOkay, so let's settle the fact that 120Hz on OLED panels is possible, but then why aren't they still available today?
I mean, we've had 120Hz and 144Hz IPS monitors for years, heck even 240Hz for quite some years already, but is there anybody who invested their time in creating a good 120Hz OLED panel?
Is 90Hz (Asus ROG Phone) already the best that they could achieve with this type of display technology?
I do get that it's not very easy to develop such a thing, but I imagined that anytime by now, a prototype of it must've been available already, assuming that the development of such thing started some 5 years ago.
If OLEDs, by nature, are better at handling high-speed motions than TFT/IPS LCDs, then shouldn't it mean that manufacturers will invest more on them than the latter?
I'm not quite sure why HMD even allowed this phone to carry the PureView brand name. The way it processes an image is far from being "pure", nor involves any sort of downsampling algorithms which older Nokia phones with the 40MP sensors use.. And for some reason digital zoom quality is far worse than what you can get from P30 Pro or Pixel 3 which only uses 1 camera at a time instead of 5, and finally that horrible low light performance despite having 3 monochrome sensors just to enhance the light sensitivity. Probably HMD should've asked Google or Huawei to code the software processing part instead of trying to do everything on their own. smh
Anonymous, 06 Apr 2019please get out of 2012 sir.Haha, someone's feelings got hurt by someone else's mentioning the 808. Long live the 808! Also, there's no 2012 in what he/she wrote. Just the truth
Incoming 808 and 1020 fanboys , it would be funny if it was not so pathetic....
Shanti Dope, 06 Apr 2019iPhones have 120Hz RESPONSE rate, not REFRESH rate..... If OLEDs are capable of performing 12... moreResponse rate (Hz) is more tied to the matrix than emitting diodes them self. So you have only TFT matrix "gaming" panels in mid range tire, neither IPS nor APV can reach that high response rates. Much criticised pen tile matrix Samsung uses does have less actual emitters meaning it should also be faster than regular RGB one. OLEDS are generally 5 to 10x more priced than IPS so you won't see them in mid tier monitors anytime soon disregard less of they refresh rate.
Anonymous, 06 Apr 2019Sorry to disappoint you friend, but:
1) the 48 MP sensors from Sony and Samsung does not h... more1) Lumias with original pure view sensor ware not so fat while that sensor is still superior to 48 MP one's today from Sony and Samsung. If you want fat good one try with 35 mm 100 MP Sony IMX555CQR which is available for OEM's. Google did much more with single same sensor as on this Nokia (primary one) then they did with five of them.
4) Samsung does have 120 Hz Amoled panels and it will make you one by your wishes as long as you pay them.
6) It does exist but we didn't see it you on phone.
7) without stacked SDDR on sensor it ain't possible, however stacked sensors are entirely something else.
9) depends on brand, there are brands that already charge that much & without all of those things and other one's that are 2x cheaper.
Khaled6869, 06 Apr 2019120 Hz works with the Super AMOLED panels on the iPhone XS and XS Max, don't forget thatiPhones have 120Hz RESPONSE rate, not REFRESH rate.....
If OLEDs are capable of performing 120Hz refresh rates, why aren't they used for mid range gaming PC monitors?
So, ok, this device needs updates. But you guys, seem to forget this. As far as i know, you just said, the pictures are great if you know how to raw. Ever tought about the massive detail that this device puts in a raw file that others just don't match? You wattered down the potential with randome words. One is to have a raw file and other is to have a crazy detailed raw file.... As of point and shot? Well, they can adjust that in quite quick manner. The whole review wattered down this device in each and every aspect ringing again at the biased door. Their are updates on the way, and those i am waiting for.
Thanks, GSMArena for including the RAW capture too in the review. And I am very happy to see the sunlight contrast ratio chart back in the display section.
Now time for some head-on camera shootouts!
I don't know what others think, but this is my next phone. I don't take many photos during a day or even a week, but when I do I want to take full control and use maximum light information collected by cameras and decide final outcome. This process was always pleasure for me.
And by the way, why GSMA doesn't conduct low light photography on a tripod? Using longer shutter speeds? This is a proper way of shooting at night unless you've got 1000$+ lens attached on your camera.
Anyway I hope future software update solves many issues observed now.