stinkfist, 12 Sep 2019Maybe you are that person that wants millions of unnecessary apps in your phone that you can't... moreMIUI is minimalistic? God, you really do smoke weed aren't you? I also once used Xiaomi with MIUI. But since Xiaomi launched the A series with Android One, I sold my MIUI Xiaomi. So much better having a totally stock Android with no bloatware and custom UI.
YUKI93, 10 Sep 2019Lol, joke of the century! Definitely the best comedy I've ever seen in my life! XD
Oh btw, ... moreMaybe you are that person that wants millions of unnecessary apps in your phone that you can't really multitask anymore. If you check benchmarks on multitasking you clearly see that the phones that comes with the most bloatware like Samsung has the lowest result on multitasking. I on the other hand prefer minimum apps and minimalistic UI in an affordable package, reason why I stick to Xiaomi in this case.
Easy for you to hate when you not even like Xiaomi's phones. I suggest you go to another forum were you actually can give reasonables suggestions instead of hating.
lujgeck, 11 Sep 2019they are the same price, there is like 20$ of difference if you went for 8gb/256gb variants$100 difference in my country.
Anonymous, 12 Sep 2019lol this is a joke, water proofing depends very much on design rather than being high end or m... moreI know this type of thinking is what lead to our current state of affairs with phones: companies nickel and dimeing consumers, and ignorant masses allowing them.
You should put your money to a higher standard, and don't allow Planned Obselensce to continue to plague your purchase. Vote with your wallet.
Companies want nothing more than to sell you a mid-range phone at a flagship price. It's possible, and it happens, don't let them. Either pay good value for your device, or pay high price for flagships that deserve your money. And this is where ingress protection starts.
It's idiotic for you to think that one of the flagship features these days (and for the past few years) isn't water proofing. It's ignorant to say it isn't, or an outright lie.
Bobcat091, 11 Sep 2019No offense you should have compared for liked phones of similar features and specs. The K20 pr... moreThere is no right or wrong. One can compare spec to spec, or similar or close price range. And for consumer, most of the time they are more likely to compare phones that are within their budget. If i have $500 budget.
Kangal, 12 Sep 2019Since 2016.
They took out feature of Super-Duper Fast Charging, just by hot-swapping the batt... morelol this is a joke, water proofing depends very much on design rather than being high end or mid end. By what you are saying, all the foldable fold are mid-range. So samsung just came out with a 2000USD mid-range phone!
Waterproofing may be a consideration, but definitely NOT a criteria.
Anonymous, 11 Sep 2019Since when is waterproof part of the criteria to be flagship? By your definition any notchless... moreSince 2016.
They took out feature of Super-Duper Fast Charging, just by hot-swapping the batteries. Samsung was the first out of the gate with the Galaxy S7 having IP67 approved, even though, their early S6 variants were made water resistant too (low IP67 grade) without having the certification. Other flagships from LG, Sony, Motorola already the feature. Apple followed them the same year with the iPhone 7. Google followed them shortly with the Pixel 2. Huawei and HTC followed them the next year with Mate 9 and U11. ZTE had to cancel the Axon8 due to legal troubles with the US, but months after resolution, they too had to have waterproofing feature on their flagship device. Even the Windows Phone flagship from HP got the feature.
Since then, low-end phones and midrange phones have never added waterproofing to their devices, but they have removed User Access to Remove the Battery. And remember, this is a big feature that they're removing without any compensation. So it is unequivocal to say that a Flagship Device needs Water Resistance.... OR it needs to have a Removable Battery.
You cannot consider the "whole phone package" by ignoring this critical feature. That's disingenuous not just to enthusiasts, but to the general public that were subject to hundreds of millions of dollars of advertising for the feature of water resistance.
PS: Xiaomi hasn't made any IP67 phones, neither has ASUS, despite their High-end phones like the RoG Phone/Zenfone and the Mi/Mi Mix range of phones.
Redmi is just better in real life:
1. Much better design (especially red or blue)
2. No notch = nicer screen overall
3. Motorised pop-up camera
4. Bigger battery
6. Has 3.5 mm headphone jack
Boldy, 10 Sep 2019The 7 pro has a wider f/1.6 aperture, an actually useful 3x zoom camera, and OIS on the main l... moreUltrawide camera is far more useful than OIS. besides EIS these days is pretty good.
Anonymous, 10 Sep 2019MUI and much lower build quality are reasons to stay away.The same miui beats Op7 Pro in speed tests.
No offense you should have compared for liked phones of similar features and specs. The K20 pro vs OnePlus 7 pro. Do right and do again 🙄
Kangal, 10 Sep 2019You're mistaken.
Both the K20 Pro and the OnePlus 7 are Upper-Midrange devices. That is to sa... moreSince when is waterproof part of the criteria to be flagship? By your definition any notchless phones just disqualified itself as being flagship.
If so, can I say by my definition, any phones with notch is NOT flagship, that would mean iPhone 11, note10+?
Should the whole phone package should be considered instead of just a single criteria?
AnonD-889293, 11 Sep 2019Not even a word about the difference in supported 4G bands? OnePlus 7 can be used nearly wo... moreIt's a joke compared to oneplus, but that joke cover most of the region. And for consumers who can buy it natively are supported.
Reknilador, 11 Sep 2019You go on praising the K20 Pro in the whole review only to have OnePlus 7 win in the end which... morethey are the same price, there is like 20$ of difference if you went for 8gb/256gb variants
I really like the idea of having the camera pop up, very cool. But, I'm a very clumsy individual and tend to drop my phone a lot. I'm scared I could snap it off?
Ex User of Samsung S8.
I went for OnePlus 7 and the disappointment in the camera department haunts me every day.
I dont get how my S8 is after all these years still superior in every photo scenario you can think of...
Really disappointed, I would sell it in a heart beat.
But with Exynos as the processor in all Samsung phones in Europe i cant no longer go for an S10 .
If you compare the new Snapdragon with the new Exynos you will get 20% down in speed and 20% (at least) more battery consumption with the Exynos processor .
Deal Breaker for me, If you are going to sale me an S10 with an Exynos at least dont charge me the same as with the Snapdragon variety .
(Sorry for my English not my native language.)
Not even a word about the difference in supported 4G bands?
OnePlus 7 can be used nearly worldwide:
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 13(700), 17(700), 18(800), 19(800), 20(800), 26(850), 28(700), 29(700), 32(1500), 34(2000), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500)
K20 pro is a joke:
LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 34(2000), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500)
You go on praising the K20 Pro in the whole review only to have OnePlus 7 win in the end which makes no sense, and no the OP7 does not offer anything crazy different to justify the higher price. Everyone mostly uses their phone for the camera and social media, no point in throwing more $$.
UrsuGras, 11 Sep 2019"The OnePlus 7 has better build quality"
What exactly do you mean by that? Just pulling gra... moreWhey nobody told about LTE bands? This is very important for travelers users.
OP7: 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 13(700), 17(700), 18(800), 19(800), 20(800), 26(850), 28(700), 29(700), 32(1500), 34(2000), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500)
K20: 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 34(2000), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500)