Google Pixel 4 review Comments
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Anonymous, 03 Dec 2019A: Xiaomi is 4th in world, ahead of oppo and vivo
B: Just because it is in your city, does no... moreA: edited, xiaomi is around oppo these days, it was not the case for past 3 odd quarters
https://www.counterpointresearch.com/global-smartphone-share/. So I can read this, you can have a read too...
B: If you are going country route, check market share in india as a bonus......
- Anonymous
- NL{
Anonymous, 02 Dec 2019Did you read my comments before? Although I didn't show numbers but it can give you clear perc... moreA: Xiaomi is 4th in world, ahead of oppo and vivo
B: Just because it is in your city, does not mean it holds true elsewhere in the world too.. that is like me saying that since there are 5 rolls royce between 100 people in my locality, there are 350 million rolls royce in the world. Again get back to me when you have actual numbers that measure actual metrics of what a defective smartphone is.
If I were to go to your route, xiaomi is number 1 india, and 3rd most trusted one too, right after apple and samsung. Can't have trust without reliability
https://www.themouvement.org/tech/top-5-most-trusted-smartphone-brands-in-2019/
There is economic times article for same too...
lastly, you are replying to wrong person on wrong topic, While I might not be the person whom you addressed your link to (what you referred to as previous comments), that link was pretty useless in measuring manufacturing defects or hardware induced failures
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Kuba, 03 Dec 2019useless phone. Google should check Meizu 16s to see how notchless beautiful display should loo... moreI agree with you.
- Kuba
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useless phone. Google should check Meizu 16s to see how notchless beautiful display should look like. the look of pixel 4 is ridiculous.
This phone series could have been epic if Google just decides to go that extra mile and offer users a little more than what they think the users need.
Eg: if Google thinks 2800 mAH is sufficient, give users at-least 3500 mAh.
- Toad
- X}Q
Its really seems like a waste of money and resources to manufacture this phone....
- Geric.770
- wYC
There's so much to hate this phone.
But I still give credits to Google for including Astrophotography on their GCam though. :)
- Anonymous
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Anonymous, 02 Dec 2019Mind sharing percentage, proven and verified? Otherwise your claims are as worthless as anecdotes..mDid you read my comments before? Although I didn't show numbers but it can give you clear perception of HOW MUCH. Do you think manufacturers will show you numbers of their defective/failure rate itself? Of course they won't unless somebody else doing that.
Here's what I know, this is only limited in my city, oppo sales are in par with samsung, and at least it twice (or more) than xiaomi sales. But the total failed xiaomi units are still far higher than combined oppo+vivo here, oppo+vivo cases are both software and hardware issues while xiaomi cases are mostly hardware failure related only (not including replaced parts because user's fault such screen crack from accident drops). That's my claim, although not specific numbers.
Btw your previous claims about "Xiaomi also sells more than Oppo and Vivo" is what we called worthless claims as anecdotes that fit with what you said before. although oppo/vivo/xiaomi sales are on the same level (on global rank), but oppo sales often wins over xiaomi, and vivo sometime can win against xiaomi.
And specifically in my country (on national level) oppo sales got 22,7% market share while xiaomi only 13,8%
Im turning back your words here. Don't make claims that worthless as anecdotes, please
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Nick Tagataka, 02 Dec 2019Pixel 4 always uses Google's machine learning AWB system that past Pixels only used in Night S... moreBrighter shadows isn't the only reason for purple shadows of the Pixel 4. A Pixel 2 or Pixel 3 doesn't suffer from this issue so much. Google seems to expose worse and I think the new noise reduction algorithms handle purple shadows worse.
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I'mPhone, 02 Dec 2019That article you mentioned is actually biased.
Failure rates mean even small drops in perfo... moreyou based your opinion based from you knew some people around you who got their xiaomi and no problems, now I came showing you with a bigger sample and numbers of evidences also some articles too, and you still fooling yourself..
remember what you said that "Besides, you already know more people are using it all over the world, second to Samsung or Apple" while everyone here knew that position was filled by Huawei, then the next position are in tight by oppo/vivo/xiaomi. I gave you some correction here too.
Now, remember what you said first?
"Just some crap I'm hearing from you.
There are hardly any battery issues, unlike its Vivo and Oppo counterpart. Also, I know some people using the Redmi 4a and Note 4/5 here and the phone still goes strong with almost no issues. Educate yourself, please"
Based from how many facts/evidence i gave you it shows and your not-convincing-evidence you gave, its prove that you have some serious problems here. How about you help yourself first? Im turning back you words back to you, educate yourself first, so you won't give some crap here
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I'mPhone, 02 Dec 2019Can just get a great 90Hz display phone with $100-200 less.
Asus ROG Phone 2 costs about th... moreThe Tencent and Indian original version (8GB/128GB) is 60% of the Pixel 4 XL price and is still more souped up than it except the camera of course, rather no, screw that because specs wise, RoG Phone 2 a la Zenfone 6 cameras are better than Pixel 4.
GCam can make it better than Pixel 4.
- I'mPhone
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jtrogr, 02 Dec 2019Why is everyone so hyped for the 90Hz? Its something you stop caring about like 2 weeks after ... moreCan just get a great 90Hz display phone with $100-200 less.
Asus ROG Phone 2 costs about the same and yet has 120Hz display.
Depends on your preference actually but I won't recommend the Pixel.
- I'mPhone
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Anonymous, 02 Dec 2019first of all, oppo sales here in my city are far higher than xiaomi sales, but xiaomi broken h... moreThat article you mentioned is actually biased.
Failure rates mean even small drops in performance? S7 and S8 having the highest failure rates? Of course it's because there are a lot of people using those phones. Build quality (and/or even repairability) has improved in most brands. S7 is actually quite a tough phone. And remember, phones that are older will certainly perform less well (battery, speed, etc.), even the iPhone does.
So please, give me a better article as citation so I can at least correct myself.
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I'mPhone, 02 Dec 2019Actually, why not show me the PERCENTAGE of devices broken instead of just providing facts. Be... morefirst of all, oppo sales here in my city are far higher than xiaomi sales, but xiaomi broken hardware-related are still higher in numbers compared to Oppo.. although it's still regional but can you get the picture here?
And you think Xiaomi sales are higher than oppo? sorry, they are on the same level or maybe oppo sells more than xiaomi globally.. even vivo able to win xiaomi sales
Ok, since u want the numbers of percentage here
"Besides, you already know more people are using it all over the world, second to Samsung or Apple."
Oppo still higher a bit in sales, or at least at the same level at tight close
https://www.counterpointresearch.com/global-smartphone-share/
Failure rate, globally
https://www.androidauthority.com/phone-models-repair-report-886115/
- Nick Tagataka
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Anonymous, 01 Dec 2019I bought the Pixel 3a because the Pixel 4's camera is so disappointing (bad white balance, no ... morePixel 4 always uses Google's machine learning AWB system that past Pixels only used in Night Sight, which worsens the WB accuracy for some reason (Anandtech also reports this issue). Purple shadows are most likely thanks to boosted shadow details - Pixel always crushed them into pure black and Google got some criticism for it, so they stopped doing that in Pixel 4, and now it's showing tons of noises in shadow area.
- Nick Tagataka
- gRy
Anonymous, 01 Dec 2019Things that these "tech experts" never mention in their reviews:
- On Iphone11pro wide angl... more-Wide angle lens shots on a smartphone is generally expected to be used for the situation where the distortion or softness won't be an issue for majority of people (e.g. Blogs, SNS). While Apple could've done better job for its low light performance, when there is ample light its shots are good enough for 95% of its users. If you want a relatively distortion free UWA lens, there's one company that offers that, but of course you will have to sacrifice wider FoV. But most importantly, having an option to shoot in UWA is better than NOT having one AT ALL.
-iPhone does provide you an option to turn off the night mode when it gets activated, and it makes no sense for Apple to provide you an option to turn it on manually, since in medium lighting conditions Deep Fusion takes over Smart HDR and does all the additional processing that enhances the details. In those situations night mode wouldn't make much of a difference or could even degrade the image quality due to longer SS blurring moving objects, and if Google isn't automatically activating Night Sight when it's needed, then it's not fair to trigger it manually and compare it to iPhone's auto night mode, which is also ZSL unlike Google's counterpart.
-While it is true that iPhones' replacement costs are indeed expensive as hell, when you're using the actual device, iPhone provides you better UX as a whole than Pixel. Pixel 4 is on the same level as the regular iPhone 11 all things considered, period.
-You're talking as if Pixels don't degrade quickly over time. Remember Pixel 2 and the lag issues that a lot of people were talking about back then? But of course you want to talk nonsensical rubbish about Chinese phones that you've never used because you want to defend Google... and RAM management has ALWAYS been the weakest point of Pixels' software. Seriously, have you been living under a rock?
-This phone has worse battery life compared to literally every single midranger/high end phones from major companies released this year, probably with a few exception (though I can't come up with any), not just when you're comparing it to Note.
-OnePlus 7T was also tested in forced 90Hz mode and still managed to score reasonable 90 hours of battery life under exactly the same test condition. Tough.
-2 years of guaranteed OS updates and next 2 years will be limited to monthly security updates, which falls far short of Apple's minimum 4 years of OS updates.
I'd like to ask, if you know all of your points are invalid and you need to employ sophistry that other people can easily debunk to defend your favourite brand, why bother defending it in the first place?
- jtrogr
- dPU
Why is everyone so hyped for the 90Hz? Its something you stop caring about like 2 weeks after having it.
- Anonymous
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Anonymous, 01 Dec 2019Things that these "tech experts" never mention in their reviews:
- On Iphone11pro wide angl... moreGoogle promises 2yrs of guaranteed software update and in reality it's more like 4yrs on average. That's 4 yrs of usefulness, count your roi.
LOL 4 years, Android 10 on og Pixel already runs like c##p, it's more like 4 years after updating that phone
Also 90 hz is marquee feature of the phone, not using it all the time means basically ignoring the main selling point for the device
No phone has 2800 mAh battery, closest is s10e, which still has 30 percentage higher battery rating than this phone
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Anonymous, 01 Dec 2019guess what brands when I checked so many 3rd party service centers here, it's xiaomi, can reac... moreMind sharing percentage, proven and verified? Otherwise your claims are as worthless as anecdotes..m
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Anonymous, 01 Dec 2019Things that these "tech experts" never mention in their reviews:
- On Iphone11pro wide angl... moreFunny how you mention P4 to be in the same as iphone11pro when the price different is close to 50%. Even the XL is far cheaper than tha basic 11pro.
Laggy device is pretty much over for current few generation of phones. Had a Note 4x running SD625 and 3GB RAMfor over 2 years, definitely not as fast as new phones, but still working perfectly good for daily driver. Not to mention SD625 ain't meant for performance. Latest update to MIUI11, but still in Android 7, but that doesn't stop anyone from continue using the phone. You don't need to have the latest firmware to be usable.
SOT is very poor gauge to measure battery life only if you compare SOT when gaming to SOT when browsing. Most reviewer have a set of test so that comparison can be done. GSM for example take browsing, video, talktime and standby as a measurement. That is like I want the fastest V12 engine, but the the fuel economic of a 1.6L engine.
Yes, putting 90hz may not make it fair for battery life, but so is it an added advantage over other phones. So are we just counting the positive and ignoring all the negative of having higher refresh?
To me P4 is a perfectly capable phone except for missing ultrawide and low battery. But when you put it in its current price point, it seems way overpriced to competitors.
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