108MP? no. 1/1.33" sensor size? YES
Anonymous, 04 Jan 2020LMAO?
All cellphones do bokeh by software. If you put a 50mm lens on a full frame camera... moreThe bokeh on the Mi Note 10 is the best. All natural without portrait mode.
Let's not compare smartphone cameras with Dslr here.
Samsung with the 108mp sensor will give better bokeh than anything on the market.
Software is what is holding back the Mi Note 10 to realize its full potential. You have to keep in mind that Xiaomi's in-house camera department was only put together in mid 2018. The question now is, will the camera get a software update in the future?
This is all so tiresome...
CCE, 04 Jan 2020I need Infrared Camera and with black light.Cut 4 plastic little circles.
Blue maker and red maker.
Make blue, red, blue and red.
Cover the camera of your phone.
You'll have your black light.
I need Infrared Camera and with black light.
AnonD-754814, 04 Jan 2020You have a point. You described sensor can do better. But I don't think it's possible to make ... moreIt's possible, IMX400 is 19MP & 1.22 micron, a little more effort is quite possible. Manufacturers are not producing such sensors because the trend is different. And it's not that huge as You think
note 10+ costs twice as much as mi note 10 , do you really need a comparison between the two?
Nick Tagataka, 04 Jan 2020Care to explain how Note 10+'s shot is better than Mi Note 10 in any way, apart from slightly ... moreIf you take 108MP and downscale to 12MP, you will see it is much better than samsung. By far.
It is wrong to compare different resolutions. People wrongly thing that photos from Samsung, Google and Apple would look same at 20, 27, 40 MP as they look at 12.
No, they would have same plastic oil painting looking seen on photos of other brands.
AnonD-754814, 04 Jan 2020You have a point. You described sensor can do better. But I don't think it's possible to make ... moreIt is possible. The thing is companies never had interest in having those bigger sensors.
For them is much easier also cheaper to keep working with similar sensors every year and just rely on software improvements with the help of better ISPs provided by newer CPUs.
Let's compare a 23MP 1/2.3" ( one was recently announced with ability to do 4k@120) x 23MP 1/1.5" (example sensor).
The 1/1.5" will be more expensive.
It will require larger lenses , that are more expensive.
If you put OIS, it will be larger too, also more expensive.
Since the final module is much larger, you spend more R&D to create solutions to find more space inside similar body sized phone.
There is one Exmor RS called IMX204. I am not sure when it was made, I believe it is from 2012 or 2013. It has 20 MP 1/1.7" , diagonal is 9,33mm. Bit larger than imx600 used by Huawei P20 Pro.
People love thin phones like Motorola Z, Sony Z3+, Samsung S6 and iphone 6+. Most do not want fat phones, even if they pack more battery.
With the cam bump, S11+/S20 Ultra will have 10.1mm ....
YUKI93, 04 Jan 2020And I definitely prefer that. It also feels good to see the old hardware physics still doing f... moreYeah,, Some of us like something which we don't get. Because there aren't a good amount of people who wants that.
For example I want a 5.9" phone with full power(everything they offer for the bigger model).
But I don't see that happening. If that type of camera phone were attractive, Nokia/Microsoft wouldn't go bankrupt.
NB: Do you remember the Samsung galaxy alpha/ Samsung galaxy A5/7(2016)… That's the last time Samsung offered good camera with midrange Phone. After that all are garbage. I still prefer those over current A series.
Nick Tagataka, 04 Jan 2020Care to explain how Note 10+'s shot is better than Mi Note 10 in any way, apart from slightly ... moreI normally don't believe what GSMARENA says. What I do is take those sample and see it on my laptop display.
And in my personal experience I have found that, midrange or lower budget android phone use some type of in built algorithm to look the photos better but when I take it to my laptop. The Ugly things come out. The photos are ugly. Bad color/contrast/sharpness.
Nick Tagataka, 04 Jan 2020Umm... have they? And even if they have with S7, how is it anything to do with the image quali... moreNone of the top brand dominated continuously. Besides, Why are you comparing a 2019 Q1 released phone with a 2019 Q4 phone.
Isn't it more logical to compare between 2019 Q4 vs 2020 Q1 phones. Because there is less time gap.
Don't say that Note 10 was delivered at the same time.
It's just the marketing strategy. They are using same for the S and Note series.
AnonD-754814, 04 Jan 2020It was more of a camera than a phone like the galaxy camera.And I definitely prefer that. It also feels good to see the old hardware physics still doing far better than the modern software-focused algorithm.
Just forget the Galaxy Camera, that is just a joke since it didn't have any cellular connectivity whatsoever.
Nick Tagataka, 04 Jan 2020Mi Note 10 has a 1/1.33" sensor, so that's definitely not the reason.But the pixel size is 0.8 micron.
sohail shafayat, 04 Jan 2020Not 1/2.5" but 1/1.5" 24MP, remember the Lumia1020, that has a 1/1.5" sensor and 41MP 1.12 mic... moreYou have a point. You described sensor can do better. But I don't think it's possible to make 24MP at 1.4 micron for Smartphone. Not with the current tech at least.
It's not like there is only one Sensor maker. There are plenty. If it were possible at least one manufacturer would do it.
harwey, 04 Jan 2020Gossip?Obviously you don't read articles here at GSMA on a regular basis.Isocell bright HMX 10... moreYeah.. I saw that post and I ignored it. Xiaomi doesn't have capabilities for making sensor. If Samsung would take any help from anyone it would be someone with experience. I have never heard Xiaomi doing anything about sensor or anything about camera.
So, I believe what GSMARENA said or what based on it was said was a false statement.