Nick Tagataka, 26 Mar 2020"The colors are completely off with some weird red tint"
"Keep begging Huawei for an update"
... moreMaybe you need to get your eyes checked.
There is a huge difference in those two images.
P40 pro produces way darker images but then that is what you can expect from a small sensor. S20 ultra has way better dynamic range and details. Noise is also incredibly low for telephoto.
And gcam works on Exynos as well.
Have s10 running gcam. Only front camera portrait mode doesn't work.
Rest works beautifully. Besides you don't need fully functioning gcam, like I could care less if the photosphere feature worked or not or whether video quality through gcam is better or not.
I utilize gcam only in low light mode for images. Rest is done through stock.
Same way ppl on S20 ultra will utilize gcam for telephoto lens, for rest, there is stock camera. You can keep begging Huawei for better performance which simply isn't possible with small sensor. Only gcam can transform things for Huawei telephoto in low light. Unfortunately, Huawei locking bootloaders locks out full potential of this device.
Unimpressive phone, I would rather buy a Galaxy S20+ or OPPO Find X2.
Anonymous, 26 Mar 2020Why would anyone buy this? Overprocessed photos, high price for what it is and no Google Servi... moreWait, you are talking about this having overpriced pictures, and then suggesting to buy a Samsung instead?
Gsmarena, it would be interesting how the image quality is when you choose 23mm (not 27mm) in pixel binning mode. Does it use the ultra wide angle camera or the main camera in pixel binning mode at 23mm? For example the P30 Pro relied basically on its main camera at 125mm in the default mode (and fused some data from its periscope camera). It switches to the periscope camera at 135mm in the default mode.
All that is a great, but what should convince me buying this over OPPO Find X2!?
Huawei has bad reputation now, and it could catch some market share outside of China, only with lower prices.
I can see myself buying one in 6months for like a half of this price.
Why would anyone buy this? Overprocessed photos, high price for what it is and no Google Services....
Get a Samsung, an Apple, a Pixel for better images. Or get the cheaper Xiaomis. All with Google Services and without the shady pedigree.
Anonymous, 26 Mar 2020 https://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=5&idPhone1=10152&idPhone2=10040&idPh... moreYou should probably look at the actual low light samples provided in the review first. The real night scenes are usually a lot harder to deal with than controlled studio light image comparison chart.
Anonymous, 26 Mar 2020Decent results? The colors are completely off with some weird red tint.
Detail levels are low... more"The colors are completely off with some weird red tint"
"Keep begging Huawei for an update"
This kind of severe issue will be resolved before the product even gets released to the market so I don't have to beg for anything, but thanks for your concern lol. And you know they have a good track record when it comes to tuning cameras through software updates.
"Detail levels are low"
It's slightly sharper and less noisy in auto albeit worse dynamic range, both produce perfectly usable photos for small to medium image sizes.
"improved telephoto quality with gcam"
*Cries in Exynos*
Nick Tagataka, 26 Mar 2020I saw the samples and in almost every single low light wide angle shot P40 Pro retains just as... more
S20 ultra gives a little bit noise (acceptable levels) but much better detail in low light while p40 pro is giving cleaner but softer images.
Nick Tagataka, 26 Mar 2020Oh, so you're KSu. I was confused at first, but ok then.
It's hard to judge which one is bett... moreDecent results? The colors are completely off with some weird red tint.
Detail levels are low (can't expect much from small sensor).
In short, they are usable only in night mode which takes 8 seconds (pretty impractical).
Keep begging Huawei for an update.
By that time S20 ultra will have even improved telephoto quality with gcam.
Plenty of phones with IMX 586 on the market, so a gcam port won't be much of a problem.
Anonymous, 26 Mar 2020Lol performance leading chipset? Ugh benchmarks are providing a different picture. Zoom camer... moreYeah overall certainly not a performance leading chipset although it is leading in certain areas such as ai benchmarks and 5g performance
It's a long time waiting for this phone and will be while before goes on market....
Does anyone think this one is better than Oppo Find Pro ? Recently released
And how does it compare with Samsung S20 ultra?
Anonymous, 26 Mar 2020Screen resolution and framerates depends on CPU. It is not clear if Kirin 990 can handle more... moreTell that to Huawei brand boys who simply can't accept that Kirin 990 is last year's chipset and can't compete with SD865.
I've just watched a YT unboxing, Im excited to see the penta'camera in action, I love the design too! The design on the screen is beautiful and with a huge refresh rate the touch to action response is super quick, I mean theres quick and then theres Huawei Quick. Plus its the first handset in 2020 to offer an overflow display, Which says other manafacturers will clearly replicate, Tech Radar once said if you want to look at phones 2 years a head of the time look at last years Huawei handsets, Which says they're always ahead of the curve. Bravo Huawei Bravo
Screen resolution and framerates depends on CPU.
It is not clear if Kirin 990 can handle more than 90Hz.
It is not always matter of choice.
SD865 can handle QHD 144Hz and 4K 60Hz.
Does not mean other like Kirin, Mediatek and A can do too.
"By default, this camera outputs 12.5MP shots with a reported focal length of 27mm, which is different compared to the advertised nominal 23mm focal length that the camera is supposed to have. When you switch between 50MP and 12.5MP (default) mode, you can indeed notice that the high-res photos offer wider field-of-view, meaning some cropping is happening before we get those 12-megapixel photos."
Wow, that's extremely strange. Huawei already did the same thing with the P30 Pro periscope camera (it was cropped in order to get 27x5 = 135mm instead of 125mm).
The sensor is 75mm² large, but I have measured(!) the crop and it's approximately a 1.178x crop, which is consistent with 27/23 = 1.174. This means that the actual sensor area that is used in pixel binning mode is only 54mm² large and only has approximately 9.1 (!) megapixels! This also means that the main camera captures approximately 4% less(!) light per time than the P30 Pro.
Anonymous, 26 Mar 2020Your 12MP RYYB sensor upgrade still sucked in low light as predicted while the 8mp 10x optical... moreSamsung periscope is 104mm.
This way is easier to use larger sensor, compare to 120, 150, 200, 250 etc ....
Also 20 Ultra does 12MP at 104mm.
At 125 or 250, resolution drops at lot.
The 64MP of S20( 28mm) will be 7MP quality at 80mm.
Anonymous, 26 Mar 2020You said camera. P40 Pro and P40 Pro+ have the same main camera sensor. What difference does i... moreI saw the samples and in almost every single low light wide angle shot P40 Pro retains just as much detail as S20 Pro but maintains noise-free image unlike S20U, which shows blotchy noise in darker shadow areas.
I think you're just confusing more noise with better details. The first low light sample, for example, shows that S20 Ultra indeed retains a lot of grain patterns on a wall - but then the same noise pattern continues towards the top of the building then bleeds into the sky, messing up the outline of the building in the process. P40 Pro does similar job without letting noise soften up edges of the subject. It's just better at balancing between textures and noise.