Huawei P40 Pro review Comments
- Shui8
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AnonD-754814, 02 Apr 2020Dual Pixel AF is still faster and more accurate.
If they are faster and more accurate then h... moreHow can you be so sure? You have the phone in your hand?
Even in this review, it mention clearly in camera section, Octa PDAF should be better than traditional Dual Pixel. - https://m.gsmarena.com/huawei_p40_pro-review-2089p5.php
- ypcx
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As for the ultrawide, this is the practical difference between S10+ and P30 Pro (P40 Pro is even narrower).
https://i.ibb.co/pJhFzWM/P30-Pro.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/FhfJXpq/S10-Plus.jpg
- Shui8
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AnonD-754814, 02 Apr 2020Dual Pixel AF is still faster and more accurate.
If they are faster and more accurate then h... moreHow can you know? You have the phone for comparison?.From all samples i've saw across the net, the Octa PDAF is indeed impressive.
'This camera has improved autofocus - now it's an all pixel omnidirectional phase detection autofocus. This means that not only are there autofocus detectors on each pixel but they are 8 of them per pixel. As a result, the camera's autofocus sensing has improved response to horizontal details whereas conventional dual pixel autofocus systems have a hard time with those. This also means autofocusing should also be generally improved in low-light.'
This are straight statement from GSMarena themselves. In theory, it should be better than Dual Pixel.
- AnonD-754814
- uNV
Shui8, 02 Apr 2020My logic DxO are legit in some situation. And they usually got newer firmware (beta) for camer... moreDual Pixel AF is still faster and more accurate.
If they are faster and more accurate then how can P40 pro gets better AF than them ?
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ypcx, 02 Apr 2020You should stop shilling. It's customers like you that encourages companies produce inferior p... moreWow will my statement encourage & affects big company? They better pay me some royalty lol.
I'm not just simply disagree with him, i just agree with basic knowledge on actual camera photography world. Like i said, its up to him, but doesnt change the rules of focal length philosophy.
- Shui8
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AnonD-754814, 02 Apr 2020DxOMARK is a joke.
Just like you said , using logic.
in DxOmark video review. The p40 pro g... moreMy logic DxO are legit in some situation. And they usually got newer firmware (beta) for camera quality before retail version got it.
About video quality, maybe I dont agree with the score as well (those jitters still emerge), but its Octa PDAF? Its as good as X2 Pro. Its one of the recipe for its excellent lowlight performer. (Dual Pixel in Samsung & Iphone were great as well).
- ypcx
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Shui8, 02 Apr 2020Its up to you if you wont consider it. Doesnt change the fact that its indeed actually an UltraWide.You should stop shilling. It's customers like you that encourages companies produce inferior products.
No, in the smartphone world, this is not "Ultrawide" by any means, forget it.
And he knows the choice is up to him, what kind of argument i that, are you 6 years old?
- AnonD-754814
- uNV
ypcx, 02 Apr 2020Yep, they pretty much killed the phone by removing the ultrawide from it. What they now call ... moreI was tired of making that point to them.
- ypcx
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AnonD-754814, 02 Apr 2020What I'm trying to say is the field is too narrow compared to the competitors. That's not acce... moreYep, they pretty much killed the phone by removing the ultrawide from it.
What they now call ultrawide is just a little bit wider than galaxy's main cam.
I was already suffering going from S10+ to P30 Pro, lacking the power of Samsung's real ultrawide.
Again, what's the point of narrow "ultrawide"? Who cares that it's sharper, if it's unusable in interiors and weak in landscapes?
- AnonD-754814
- uNV
Shui8, 02 Apr 2020For me, theres only one simple answer.
To eliminate corner softness completely, and to get ... moreDxOMARK is a joke.
Just like you said , using logic.
in DxOmark video review. The p40 pro got 98( 100 in still) for AF where the AF is worse than iPhone and some other.
- Shui8
- KZK
AnonD-754814, 02 Apr 2020Yeah. For the crop factor, the main sensor isn't an Ultrawide. I wonder why they choose to crop. For me, theres only one simple answer.
To eliminate corner softness completely, and to get a perfect free-distortion. The downside are overall sharpness will be sacrificed (fuzzy) and its evident on GSMarena studio setup, Mate 30 Pro still got the best in terms of details.
However samples on DxO looks better. Maybe different firmware used.
- AnonD-754814
- uNV
Shui8, 02 Apr 2020I mention 'CROP' along with pixel-binning a dozen time in my replies. Anyway, at least it c... moreYeah. For the crop factor, the main sensor isn't an Ultrawide. I wonder why they choose to crop.
- Shui8
- KZK
AnonD-754814, 02 Apr 2020You should recheck your comment where you said the pixel binning is responsible for the 23mm t... moreI mention 'CROP' along with pixel-binning a dozen time in my replies.
Anyway, at least it clears some of your confusion understanding.
- AnonD-754814
- uNV
Shui8, 02 Apr 2020What if one take photo at 50MP?
Isn't it ultrawide then?
- Then u got two UWA, one with more... moreYou should recheck your comment where you said the pixel binning is responsible for the 23mm to 27mm shift. Which is not correct.
You should know what you are talking about.
- AnonD-754814
- uNV
Nick Tagataka, 02 Apr 2020"what will be the 18mm for the wide angle camera?"
It's still 18mm. It only crops the image i... moreOh.. I get it now. It's like APSC sensor.
That guy was talking about some pixel binning theory.
If I knew the main was cropping then I wouldn't call it a ultrawide at all. But why did Huawei choose to crop the sensor ?
I believe GMARENA mentioned about 12.5MP images.
Is the phone up-scaling ? Why waste a big sensor then ? So, as the 23mm becomes 27mm .
I'm assuming they are not using almost 18% of the sensor ?
- Shui8
- KZK
AnonD-754814, 02 Apr 2020What I'm trying to say is the field is too narrow compared to the competitors. That's not acce... moreThat's not acceptable to you. Most professional found the 3:2 sensor at 18mm are spot on for UWA.
But yeah if the lens wider like others, interesting results still can be achieved.
- Shui8
- KZK
AnonD-754814, 02 Apr 2020I got that earlier. You just didn't read my reply properly ?
What if one take photo at 50MP ... moreWhat if one take photo at 50MP?
Isn't it ultrawide then?
- Then u got two UWA, one with more wider than another. I believe most person will use the 12.5mp mod.
Also the binning theory just made the ultrawide camera even worse. If the 23mm is 27mm for main camera then what will be the 18mm for the wide angle camera?
- The crop sensor only happens with main lens. The 18mm remains even after binning.
Knows your stuff first.
- AnonD-754814
- uNV
Nick Tagataka, 02 Apr 2020Uh, so what's exactly your point? Are you trying to argue that the main camera with 23mm equiv... moreWhat I'm trying to say is the field is too narrow compared to the competitors. That's not acceptable.
- Nick Tagataka
- gR5
AnonD-754814, 02 Apr 2020I got that earlier. You just didn't read my reply properly ?
What if one take photo at 50MP ... more"what will be the 18mm for the wide angle camera?"
It's still 18mm. It only crops the image in the main camera for whatever the reason.
- AnonD-754814
- uNV
Shui8, 02 Apr 2020And the final images at pixel-binned 12.5mp size cropped to 27mm. Get it yet?I got that earlier. You just didn't read my reply properly ?
What if one take photo at 50MP ?
Isn't it ultrawide then ?
Also the binning theory just made the ultrawide camera even worse. If the 23mm is 27mm for main camera then what will be the 18mm for the wide angle camera ?
Again, Like I mentioned earlier, the focal length is confusing to consumers and advantages to seller brands.
Field of view should be considered. And in this case I follow old Standard.
120 degree field of view. No confusion for different sensors.
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