ZolaIII, 20 Apr 2020Well the DAC's actually do sound the same if not broken. There's a tail of OP Amp's & how ... moreYou are correct it is the op-amps that sit between the DAC and the audio jack which gives the distinctive sound signature of the device. The general trend I have seen is to use three of them (Vivo NEX S, Lenovo Vibe X3) one for I/V conversion and then the next two to amplify the analog signal one per channel to the 3.5 mm audio jack. This discrete audio solution I have seen provides reasonable drive to power upto 60 ohms to the max. Other older solutions like my Vivo X5Max uses just one op-amp for amplification hence less drive. What I mostly think ESS made a custom for one chip IC solution for LG with integrated DAC + I/V conversion + power amplifier. Correct me if i am wrong.
Shanti Dope, 20 Apr 2020Hello attention-seeker!
I'm sorry, but the attention that you're starving to death for, is no... moreI have yours and that is enough for me :D at least you are focusing on me.
I feel like we are contribution the same way to this LG V60 section. You are trying to write a long nonsensical paragraph of hollow words, I like to keep things simple, quick.
I wonder when they will delete our posts and clear this forum ;)
Shanti Dope, 20 Apr 2020Then what else are you gonna talk about?
Obviously what you gave me had absolutely nothing to... moreYou know there are even sentence generators that are able to generate a page of readable text with zero information value.
TBH with you mentioning dictionary if feel pretty much like a generated text.
Fearghast, 20 Apr 2020That's priceless, please continue.Hello attention-seeker!
I'm sorry, but the attention that you're starving to death for, is not available in this page. Please wait while we redirect you to your li--- never mind...."your life" doesn't exist.
Fearghast, 20 Apr 2020I am not talking to you argument.
Oh classic Dope :DThen what else are you gonna talk about?
Obviously what you gave me had absolutely nothing to do with what I'm trying to say, which is just an indicator of your desperation to cope up with your complete failure to defend your side.
Well anyway, you did a decent job! You just ruined it by deeming to ad hominem.
You really did well enough, but you didn't have to do that absolute trash technique anyway.
Anonymous, 20 Apr 2020Just keep on topic. Keep Sony out of this.This is a comment section, where anything can be said.
You can find somebody else to dictate what they should do in their life, but certainly not an intellectual like me.
Anonymous, 20 Apr 2020https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/bash
Bashing is to criticise severely.
... moreMerriam-Webster's Dictionary says bashing is a form of act of striking someone or something with the use of violence. In what way did I use brute force when criticizing their faults?
Anyway, I'd trust Merriam Webster more than your unknown and unreliable source any time of the day. Obviously that's not completely wrong, but you're definitely getting the wrong idea here.
Repeatedly?? OBVIOUSLY you made me repeat those things because it wouldn't go inside your nutcrack head!
Now I'm starting to lose patience to the low level of your understanding. It's getting severe enough that I don't even wanna waste a single second to your nonsense cr*ps.
Fearghast, 20 Apr 2020Science man has spoken
You post are becoming more and more absu... moreAnother typical strategy when losing a proper argument lol.
I also have lost many debates in life, but never would I ever use ad hominem like you do to continue the argument that I know I have lost already. That's just purely disgusting.
Well, your statements are already nonsense right from the start.
Or maybe you could shut the hell up because I'm obviously talking to the other person and not you.
If you're starving so hard for attention, you can use tinder and date an 80-year old woman there to satisfy your needs.
This is an intellectual discussion, and we're certainly not asking for your dumb nonsense bs's.
scottm-dj, 20 Apr 2020From the UAPP developer himself...seems everything after the V40 converts now (V50/G8X/etc)--a... moreWell that's sad regarding LG. Thanks for the info. I wouldn't exactly hold my breath regarding Sony, looks like its default QC DAC again and in doubtfully good implementation as always. I have XZ1 & use external DAC which actually tells it all. At least Sony has good BT suport and duble as usual volume steps with as close to stock Android as possible without being Google's gimmipig. If that's comforting. At least now there are affordable good performing portable USB DAC's that doesn't cost all that much.
scottm-dj, 20 Apr 2020From the UAPP developer himself...seems everything after the V40 converts now (V50/G8X/etc)--a... moreThis does not fix the issue of downsamling?
Edit: Nevermind, UAPP didn't click for me ... ooops ... again.
Anonymous, 20 Apr 2020LG putting the phone at the right price tag.
Not so much with Sony.
Every year, it's the s... moreI could not agree more. I myself will most likely buy Xperia 1 II or Xperia 5 II, but I will wait for reviews, if they are good, I will wait for it to fail on market and 1/4 year later I will buy it with 30% discount, WF-1000MX4/WH-1000MX4 and a Sony/JBL speaker to boot.
It's kinda the usual life cycle for a Sony smartphone in my region.
So win win for me, not so much for Sony :D
But LG is certainly tempting, I love mics on my backup V30+, headphone output is great, this time they kept colours on the cool side, dektop mode etc.
From the UAPP developer himself...seems everything after the V40 converts now (V50/G8X/etc)--and MQA support was dropped with the V60. Gotta keep that price point down somehow...but what a shame...
V50: Includes MQA decoding. The V50 does not feature DoP. The LG Music app will convert DSD to 88200Hz PCM, whereas UAPP converts to 352800Hz PCM.
V60: V60 does not feature MQA or DoP encoding.
This is a big deal for audiophiles since even though the chip in the phones hasn't changed and play DSD natively..but LG disabled it. Looks like I'll stick with my V40 until i see what Sony has up its sleeve with the Xperia I Mark II. A Japanese article/pre-review was encouraging....translate in Chrome.
ZolaIII, 20 Apr 2020Well the DAC's actually do sound the same if not broken. There's a tail of OP Amp's & how ... moreI forgot to tell that of course I firstly applied a layer of electrical isolation as both aluminium and graphite are conductors and sorry about autocorrect related mistakes.
RishiGuru, 20 Apr 2020Very well said and I second your opinion. I am a music lover too and love music. My job requir... moreWell the DAC's actually do sound the same if not broken. There's a tail of OP Amp's & how they sound differently. Truth is its all about rejection rate and shielding in order to improve it. Used material for shielding also plays a role. For instance ESS usually are very prone in picking up EMI and other interfaces (so are the newer CS one's) it degrees mostly top & bottom end & same gave bias to sound stage. I use USB portable DAC with my current Sony & it's a ES9018K2M + SABRE9601K, battery powered with separated power line. Whosent exactly satisfied with how it sounded, stage whose narrow, mids ward intoxicating in a good way, fast forward... I opened it & experimented with different shieldings. First I put tick aluminum folie which did make it sound as AKM, thick booming bothom, great highs but it didn't resolve neither of other issues & made dynamics bad. Then I applied thin layer of graphite instead. This moved hump to mid bass & fixed everything else so I did know I am on the right track. Finally I put more of the graphite (2~3 mm layer) over IC's and this straighten it to the very bottom (sub bass) dynamics ware great sound stage is now just correct in both axes and cetera. Now it's on pair with polite desktop solutions. I basically added 65 dB shielding across whole frequency spectrum to a IC rejection rate they already have. EMI from GSM network goes up to 110 dB so you have to get over that. Luckily this whose a DAC which whose easy to access & had enough free space inside.
Regarding the LG V60 the Android 10 broke DSD native decoding and other things, it's fixed now in UAPP. ;)
Fearghast, 20 Apr 2020"The whole world besides Europe will be getting Exynos version, so that's the variant that mos... moreLG putting the phone at the right price tag.
Not so much with Sony.
Every year, it's the same story, Hardly anyone going to buy the Xperia 1 II
scottm-dj, 20 Apr 2020Yeah GSMArena...I agree with several here--where are the full audio test results?
I see a f... moreFor music listening, DTS is not important to me. However native DSD and MQA are. Are you certain they are not present on V60? Is it the same case for LG G8X?
My LG V30+ have support for both.