LG V60 ThinQ 5G review Comments
- Shitter
- Snv
Mancixx, 21 Apr 2020Hey can anyone here help me.. I'm a poor man from Egypt and all what I hope is to have any mob... moreHow did you write this? With your pen?
- CAw
- H03
RishiGuru, 20 Apr 2020Very well said and I second your opinion. I am a music lover too and love music. My job requir... moreSo which phones have "Dedicated" DAC? I want to know more, please!
- Drizzle
- rRU
A nice balance of tech. I like that this V60 doesn't focus on just the camera & offers more with nice video & audio features also.
- CAw
- H03
YUKI93, 19 Apr 2020"You audiophiles, by a dedicated DAC/Amp and forget about 3.5mm jack." Haha, NO! Even for a... moreYou should try E1DA 9038S, for 80$, this one beats DragonFly Cobalt and it's very light, just 10g. All you need is a Type C to Type C dongle and a balanced output 2.5, seriously, a lot of audiophiles recommend this one.
- Mancixx
- N0Y
Hey can anyone here help me.. I'm a poor man from Egypt and all what I hope is to have any mobile phone for free so can any one help me in that
- ZolaIII
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RishiGuru, 21 Apr 2020Aah.. the ZTE Axon 7 with AKM AK4490EN audio DAC. I always wanted to experience this phone, bu... moreTiristor based impedance to voltage regulation is better approach if you must have one, CS43131 for instance take it. Best approach is ideal gain delta hard limited in design for all amplifier elements and analogue control at one end of the chain especially taking in consideration & DSD. I already tried to tel you how DAC's sound the same & everything else is related to noise and distortion this is related to how good IC is made along to how good it's implemented.
Second part would be actual matching, he tried to explain you the part with output impedance the Amp has as if it's let's say higher than 10 Ohm's it will charge sound characteristics for sensitive lo impedance EMI's for which desirable is under 1 Ohm's & 120 dB SNR. So that's step one amplifier, second would be an OP Amp & Amp with gain switch (again vvd related) for 80~120 Ohm's on lo gain and 150~300 on high gain. By the way LG's lo impedance gain limitation is software one & applies only to EU - US firmwares because thay actually had to do it to comply to the law and regulations.
LDAC at high quality 24 bit 96KHz @ 990 KB/s actually stays in 17 bit range. Think Opus is next logical step for BT audio.
- Anonymous
- 3xn
I feel that the whole tech world don't NO what they are talking about, if a phone is lacking in addition to screen or camera specs. Its a lower speced phone to all the competition.WHAT NONSENSE LG , HAS EQUALLY As much functionality at Samsung, more than oppo or One plus and Apple. But due to it not being popular its not counted.every manufacturers stands out in something.no brand is good at everything.Thats a fair comment or narrative that should be pushed. LG HAS A HEADPHONE JACK, WITH EXTRA AUDIO FEATURES. IT HAS MANUEL VIDEO, IT HAS WIRELESS FAST CHARGING, IT HAS 8K MANUEL MODE, PLUS EXTRAS. Now Samsung and oneplus or apple are lacking in some of these these features, yet they are counted to have more due to what a smoother screen experience and a 2k display, which LG pioneered.Look I'm not brand loyal, but I like to give credit where its due Lgv60 has given users the 2 most important things when it comes to mobiles and that long battery life and good audio to hear people on the other end. Who cares about 120htz or 90htz.
- RishiGuru
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kevinmcmurtrie, 21 Apr 2020An "op-amp" is simply a term for a generic "operational amplifier" where the output is the dif... moreAah.. the ZTE Axon 7 with AKM AK4490EN audio DAC. I always wanted to experience this phone, but alas it never got released in India. However I am well versed with the sound signature of AKM's. I own a Vivo V5Plus with AKM AK4376 and they sound lush and sweet over the audio jack. Emphasis is always on low to mid-range but the overall balance throughout the entire audible frequency range is quite good. However they are not as accurate, clinical or precise as ESS ones found on LG's. AKM, Cirrus Logic, ESS each have their own style and I love them all.
I don't like the current three step gain output structure of LG's QuadDAC, as the first step on low impedance cans (< 50 ohms) sounds anemic. Not earphones mind you. Tricking the QuadDAC to the second step will provide meaty power.
On other hand I have seen over powering low impedance headphones can provide detrimental effects to over all sound quality. Hence I prefer the 2 step gain used by Cirrus Logic in my Vivo NEX which provides the sweet spot of ample power to drive any proper headphone and you do not need to do any kind of trickery. Same for Axon 7.
Bluetooth headphones are no doubt far worse. People who don't understand audio, audio quality & audio technology always speaks about BT headphones are the way to go. Yes for convenience factor BT headphones are ok, but not critical listening.
- X41
- YQx
Can they make it a bit smaller with 4500mah battery? This is quite big. And how about updates in India...they suck at that
- Anonymous
- vry
youtindia, 19 Apr 2020The sudden removal of headphone jack testing makes no sense at all. Why remove something that ... moreSlowly conditioning people to a wireless future. Just like what Apple did.
Make 3.5mm jack look bad.
- SLSAHXOHVOMVN
- Kxr
Anonymous, 21 Apr 2020Xperia 1 has 689 nits. Lower pixel density makes easier for the company to increase brightnes... moreHaha, the panel is dimmer compared to other flagships.
Besides, I'd rather have a 3k panel pushing 1200 nits than a useless dim 4k panel.
Oled burn in happens not coz of higher brightness, it happens on cheaply made oleds after the pixels are static for too long(unrealistic in the real world).
SD865 may not support 4k@120hz but it can support 3k@120hz or even 1080p@120hz.
Why Sony not giving that option to the user? All I see are excuses after excuses made by Sony fans.
3x optical zoom that they provide on Sony is useless. Same result can be obtained by cropping from Main sensor on other higher megapixel cameras.
When I say periscope zoom, I'm talking about 5x,10x optical zoom which is standard for 2020 flagships and is super useful. Portraits aren't the only thing you shoot using telephoto lens.
S20 ultra is the current zoom champ. Great pics thru telephoto lens (day or night) without any compromises. Extremely useful during videos as well without losing that great image quality.
"Chinese brands use two batteries to charge faster"
>> So? End result is faster charging without the associated heat of 65W charger.
Besides, Only Oppo using two batteries, rest are using single batteries.
" It is proven faster charging will decrease life span"
>>That is true only if excessive heat is generated.
Learn how VOOC and other technologies work. Chinese brands way ahead in this department. VOOC keeps heat away even when charging and using your phone. Sony Quick charge is different tech and is inferior to proprietary Chinese fast charging tech.
https://www.androidauthority.com/vooc-fast-charging-686000/
While companies like Xiaomi using better batteries with more charge cycles despite faster Watt charging, while Sony choosing regular and smaller batteries which eventually end up consuming more charge cycles and start degradation after 300-400 charge cycles.
https://www.gsmarena.com/black_shark_3_5g_confirmed_to_have_65w_charging_5000_mah_battery-news-41641.php
Sony simply charging more for bigger profit margins.
- mobileman
- JcU
looks promising, but again, GA drop some test off, this time ausi lab test, why!!
do it plz.
- Fearghast
- 3D9
Anonymous, 21 Apr 2020Sony is cutting a lot of corners too.
Dim panel, lack of higher refresh rate out of the box.
... moreIt is not a good deal based on a specs compared to competetion, BUT specs alone do not tell the whole story.
If the cameras are much better than Xperia 1/5 ... and they should be - they are using better chips and better glass ... I would be more than willing to shill said amount of money for a phone with 60Hz display, (I don't care for 4K on 6,5" screen, nor do I care for 60+Hz on my personal phone), headphone jack (even typical low Sony quality), improved mics over 1/5, bigger battery etc.
Why? It does not have a notch, I like Sony speakers, I like their colour balance and the way they are implementing noise reduction, I like it has SD card slot, headphone jack etc. the only thing it is missing in my eyes is a propper desktop mode, BUT considering the quality of Sony software it could actualy be better that way.
Sonys phones are not a good deal to many users and I feel this year It will be even more apparent.
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Anonymous, 21 Apr 2020Sony is cutting a lot of corners too.
Dim panel, lack of higher refresh rate out of the box.
... moreXperia 1 has 689 nits. Lower pixel density makes easier for the company to increase brightness. Dont ever expect a 4K phone to boost 900 nits under sunlight. Also more brightness for oled brings burn -in sooner. It is not like LCD that you can use 100% brightness all the time without screen being damaged. Sony brought to CES2018 a panel with 10.000 nits, something will never seen for oled.
Xperia Compacts HD screen always had more brightness than bigger versions.
SD865 does not support more than 60Hz for 4K. Pointless to unlock the 120Hz mode if it cant be used with 4K. Weird that until fev/2019 none felt bothered by 60Hz, now everybody is.
Periscope. What if you want shorter focal length? Will you crop from main camera like Samsung and LG? 3x digital zoom makes resolution drops to 1/9, which means Xperia would have a 1,33MP quality at 72mm equivalent if it had a periscope. Also portraits will have distortion of wide angle lens.
OP has access to R&D from Vivo and Oppo. It makes things way cheaper.
Chinese brands use two batteries to charge faster. Two batteries with 30W, not one with 60W. It is proven faster charging will decrease life spam. Impossible for your phone to have 97% after 12 months if you use 30, 40 or 60W. You will be lucky if your battery has 85%. Otherwise all companies would be using more than 30. Any company that makes electronics is able to use if they want too.
Not cheap to bring ppl from Alpha, Cinealta, Sony Pictures and Sony Music to work on the phone. Nor to create from zero the mobile version of software with features from other electronics (tv, cameras, video cameras and walkman) ..
Be sure OP8 Pro costs less to be made.
- kevinmcmurtrie
- qSw
RishiGuru, 20 Apr 2020You are correct it is the op-amps that sit between the DAC and the audio jack which gives the ... moreAn "op-amp" is simply a term for a generic "operational amplifier" where the output is the difference between two inputs multiplied by nearly infinity. It's an analog computational component. There are trade-offs between gain, power consumption, frequency response, and distortion even at audio frequencies a millionth of the chip's rated frequency. This is why cellphone outputs are always slightly off from perfect. They're usually still very good. The most common problem is that the output voltage is too low for high impedance headphones or the output impedance is too high for low impedance headphones. The old Axon 7 had a software switch for this, but the correct use of it was lost in misleading marketing gibberish.
Bluetooth headphones are far worse. They have an extremely low power budget and there's still no lossless Bluetooth audio codec.
USB-C amplifiers can be better if they're externally powered. All trade-offs related to power consumption and size go away.
- Anonymous
- Kxr
Anonymous, 20 Apr 2020It is easy to price at $800 when you cut a lot of things other have. Sony is cutting a lot of corners too.
Dim panel, lack of higher refresh rate out of the box.
Weak regular battery with regular fast charging.
Giving 8/256gb at 1200 Euros is not a good deal.
Lack of periscope lens.
It costs less than the OnePlus 8 pro to assemble if you add up the parts.
- Anonymous
- YHY
Cybran, 19 Apr 2020Even though the V60 will probably be my next phone... a 21:9 screen is simply too tall and too... moreMultiple cameras actually do provide utility when done correctly, what are you talking about? Multiple camera setups that include macro cameras and depth sensors don't provide much utility. Multiple camera setups that include a telephoto and ultrawide provide superior utility as they give the user 3 focal lengths as opposed to just 1.
- kevinmcmurtrie
- qSw
Beware that these are carrier-locked phones with carrier locked cell radios. If you check the specifications for the T-Mobile LG V60, you'll see that it will work poorly, if at all, outside of North America. This is especially dumb because T-Mobile is the roaming-friendly telco you'd have if you travel.
GSM: 850 MHz, 900 MHz, 1800 MHz, 1900 MHz
UMTS: Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850)
5G: n71, n66, n41, n2, n25
LTE: 2, 4, 5, 12, 25, 26, 41, 46, 48, 66, 71
I'm interested in this phone but only more bands are enabled.
- Noman22
- 6P5
This hilarious smartphone has 6.8 inch screen , damage proof Gorilla glass and look time 5000MAH battery
- Anonymous
- rRU
RishiGuru, 20 Apr 2020You are correct it is the op-amps that sit between the DAC and the audio jack which gives the ... moreThis is the worst phone i ever has. Never had such a hard time finding thing and moving from on app to another wow. I have not has so many issues with hearing people on my phone and it ending video chats every 5 min
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