Nebula, 14 May 2020Rather ambitious pricing, won't you say?Priced to high,
Probably it should priced nothing over 650$
This phone is only missing a larger battery otherwise it could be the phone of the year.
Anonymous, 09 May 2020The reality is that if you want to zoom far objects, the telephoto allow you to obtain a lot b... moreLol How many of those dedicated telephoto lens are really used in low light for distant objects? They are cropping from Main sensor in low light. Telephoto cameras only have real advantage when above 5x(The periscope ones) .
108mp on Xiaomi Mi 10 can easily give comparable images upto 2x-3x.
So most users won't miss the telephoto on that.
The 2x portrait lens on Mi 10 Pro is great though since it's a S8 or S9 sensor with dual pixel AF. Sadly, apart from Xiaomi, no one offering that for 2x. All they offer is weak sensors which are useless.
Anonymous, 08 May 2020Did you even check the video of LG V60 not needing telephoto or are you just going to spit out... moreThe reality is that if you want to zoom far objects, the telephoto allow you to obtain a lot better photos. And the bigger is the zoom used the bigger is the difference in quality, detail, noise, etc. There are a lot of comparatives online. Even today one in android central between Galaxy S20+ and LG V60 that demostrate it.
The V60 can't compete when zooming object and that against a 3x optical zoom of the S20+, imagine how ridiculous will be the photos with zoom from the V60 against a 5x or 10X camera from other phones. The photos from V60 not only have lower zoom also at the same zoom they are softer, with lower details, worse colors, and null in low light.
Telephoto cameras are very useful. More than ultrawide ones normally. But have all them are great. The only ones not needed are the macro ones, a invent for the number while being cheap, idem for depth sensors.
This phone will be stuck with Android 10 till the end of time
Anonymous, 07 May 2020That's nonsense. In good light conditions Quad Bayer sensors capture much less detail than Ba... moreDid you even check the video of LG V60 not needing telephoto or are you just going to spit out more therotical garbage?
Anonymous, 07 May 2020That's nonsense.
In good light conditions Quad Bayer sensors capture much less detail than Ba... moreYou do realize that the dedicated telephoto lens have small sensor size? thereby capturing less light.
It's not Quad Bayer vs regular Bayer sensor of the same size here.
108mp Quad Bayer 1/1.33" sensor vs 12mp/8mp regular Bayer 1/3" or 1/4" sensors.
NoAndroidUpdate, 08 May 2020Don't forget the fact that Oppo Find X is still on Android 9. Oppo never gives Android update.All being updated in June
Don't forget the fact that Oppo Find X is still on Android 9. Oppo never gives Android update.
Anonymous, 07 May 2020Pixel size matter at high ISO only.
I do not onow why ppl still believe the myth it matters ... more"Pixel size matter at high ISO only."
It also matters in very dark shadows at low Isos.
But yes, in good light conditions more pixels usually don't lead to more noise because the noise that is caused by the slightly different amount of photons that are emitted/reflected every millisecond plays a higher role in good light conditions.
Anonymous, 07 May 2020Forget artifacts, those weak telephoto sensors simply aren't capturing enough detail and data ... moreThat's nonsense.
In good light conditions Quad Bayer sensors capture much less detail than Bayer sensors (with the same megapixel count) because they need to rearrange the pixels artificially (remosaic mode). This also causes a lot of artifacts. That's also why the Xiaomi Note 10 has a dedicated 50mm equivalent camera, although in theory a 50 megapixel Bayer wide angle camera is enough for 12 megapixel 2.0x photos. But the 108 megapixel sensor captures less detail (and produces artifacts) than a 50 megapixel Bayer sensor, therefore dedicated 2x tele cameras are needed. Theoretically the 27 megapixel Bayer mode of the Xiaomi Note 10 can only replace a 12.2 megapixel 1.5x camera.
So it's almost the same phone as OnePlus 8 but with different OS for 40% more $$...very ambitious from Oppo
visitor, 07 May 2020I wished i could switch the foto aspect ratio for all snappers to 16:9.for that you need 16 MP cameras which could be done but everyone is going for tiny pixel software overload 48,64 and 108 cams
I wished i could switch the foto aspect ratio for all snappers to 16:9.
Anonymous, 07 May 2020Pixel size matter at high ISO only.
I do not onow why ppl still believe the myth it matters ... moreForget artifacts, those weak telephoto sensors simply aren't capturing enough detail and data compared to large 1/1.33" HMX sensor. Your knowledge about Quad Bayer Algorithms easily reveals the fact that you are an amateur at best.
Gsmarena confirmed in their reviews about Xiaomi giving good 2x-3x Zoom levels comparable to those from dedicated 2x-3x telephoto lens.
Only images from 5x periscope lens have advantage over Xiaomi Mi 10 zoomed in images.
Similar thing for regular S20 zoom mechanism.
Same thing for LG as well.
Anonymous, 07 May 2020If you examine the quality of 3x digital zoom from 108mp camera and compare it to others with ... morePixel size matter at high ISO only.
I do not onow why ppl still believe the myth it matters in any situation (otherwise cameras of 60MP would perform worse than those 24MP with same sized sensor).
Anyway, the full resolution mode have many artifacts.
Not even doing downscale to 12 makes it better than binned mode.
Also there is the video. Crop 2x and 4K is already 1080p.
Anonymous, 07 May 20202x zoom from 108MP = 27Mp
3x zoom from 108MP = 12Mp
2x zoom from 48Mp = 12MP
3x zoom fro... moreIf you examine the quality of 3x digital zoom from 108mp camera and compare it to others with dedicated telephoto, it's not worse but comparable.
Since other telephoto on the market all have regular Bayer sensors with 1 micron pixel size.
While Mi 10 has 0.8 micron in regular Bayer mode.
But The sensor is huge (1/1.3") compared to tiny (1/3" or 1/4") ones on dedicated telephoto.
And in night, they are simply cropping from Main camera.
So 2x-3x dedicated telephoto won't make a difference if you have 108mp HMx sensor.