Tann Hauser, 05 Jun 2020Drivers are used for hardware managment. I tend to disagree here. Equilisers do matter quite... moreBy a driver I meant for transducer (the physical speaker component that emits sound by vibrating diaphragm), not the software driver that manages the speaker sound.
Nick Tagataka, 05 Jun 2020If the drivers are not capable of delivering sufficient amount of bass in the first place, the... moreDrivers are used for hardware managment. I tend to disagree here.
Equilisers do matter quite a lot, are application of sound drivers, for enhancing sound qualities and volume to ones liking. What sound you get out of the box is just another preset of equilised sound range for lows, mids and highs, set as 0.
Anonymous, 04 Jun 2020You are beyond missing the point. The point is you cannot physically test something like the... moreI don't think i am. Quite the opposite. 700 comments about DxOMark scores and lab results, while claiming that the difference cannot been seen or heard without proper lab equipment. Do you even understand what am i trying to say?
Tann Hauser, 04 Jun 2020Sony actually has an equilizer for Dolby, with presets and everything. Dont feel the base much... moreIf the drivers are not capable of delivering sufficient amount of bass in the first place, then there's not much Equaliser can do about it. I have two phones with Dolby Atmos equalisers so I know how effective they can be and their limitations. My P30's speaker sounds thumpier and more balanced with Dolby set to "Film" mode, but it still doesn't match the clarity and deeper bass of my S10.
Tann Hauser, 04 Jun 2020If you are willing, go to Patreon, Somegadgetguy. He has a full in depth tech review dedicate... moreI guess I'd wait for Notebookcheck to publish their full analysis on it, but Juan's reviews were definitely my blind spot. Thanks for the suggestion.
I heard one store in Germany have sent emails to costumers the demand is high and they are in trouble to deliver the products.
Tann Hauser, 04 Jun 2020Sony actually has an equilizer for Dolby, with presets and everything. Dont feel the base much... moreNot to mention you specifically chose one aspect of an entire list of things made a point of. Just to side track with useless info on that one aspect
Tann Hauser, 04 Jun 2020Sony actually has an equilizer for Dolby, with presets and everything. Dont feel the base much... moreWow.... Because that is not common on many devices already... oh wait... it is...
Just pre ordered mine on O2 refresh contract
Price of handset £799 and you get a pair of wireless noise cancelling headphones at that price you can't go wrong
Nick Tagataka, 04 Jun 2020Not if the actual drivers powering the speakers aren't any better. I listened to the audio sam... moreSony actually has an equilizer for Dolby, with presets and everything. Dont feel the base much, go and set a higher level for lower frequencies.
Alex, 04 Jun 2020See, that's the main problem today. You're waiting for someone to test it and tell you what to... moreThat is the problem, but its always been like that, since the age of online reviews.
But yes, some online seen numbers wont ever equal the real life experience.
Those Sony headsets in the bundle, are praised as one of the best wireless ones, but most certainly are not the most loudest or maybe not even the best by measured numbers, as they have noise cancelling. But seems from reviews, the actuall experience using them, is top.
When Im buying a TV, I dont go searching for random numbers on internet, I go to the store and carefully watch the quality difference, and then I buy what I actually liked seeing first hand. Of course the pricepoint and type of screen are considered. I d myself would never buy OLED TV.
Problem with Xperias is... you cant even go and check them out in most stores anymore.
So about the screen or sound, we can mostly rely on YT compares, but have to be careful in digesting those. For sound, tester should use at least a stereo microphone set in front, for screen, a dark room surrounding and an out in the sun scenario.
Unfortunately, there is no good method yet to experience real headphone quality over internet, or screen higher hz performance. That certainly has to be done in real life scenario.
Tann Hauser, 04 Jun 2020If you are willing, go to Patreon, Somegadgetguy. He has a full in depth tech review dedicate... moreWe know it's positive. So all of you constantly repeating that is getting us nowhere. The issue is not whether it is good or not. The issue is you Sony knights trying to proclaim is audio as superior to the rest. And claiming there are many places proving this. When in fact is not and there are not.
Alex, 04 Jun 2020I DO NOT believe that you're checking the camera, screen, speaker(s), etc. with your own eyes ... moreYou are beyond missing the point.
The point is you cannot physically test something like the exact claim of the display brightness nits or speaker decibel level. Or Sony's claim of 20db crosstalk. Not without proper objective tests and equipment.
You can tell if a display is nice and vibrant or bright. If it works well in the sun.
But you can't verify it actually reaches its advertised brightness nits of 600, 800, or whatever unless you have lab equipment to test it.
And you can tell whether the colors are very vibrant or accurate. But 95% of people couldn't tell if the accuracy is actually hitting an advertised mark unless they used lab equipment to get scientific measurements.
You listen to speakers and hear if they live up to a certain quality.
But you can't measure if they reach a certain specific decibel or if the crosstalk was really reduced to a certain amount unless you have lab test equipment for it.
Why do you think gsmarena and other places have these lab tests for???
Nick Tagataka, 04 Jun 2020Audio quality is very hard to quantify it and often quality assessments heavily rely on tester... moreIf you are willing, go to Patreon, Somegadgetguy.
He has a full in depth tech review dedicated to Sony Xperia 1 II audio, speakers and jack quality.
And it is quite positive.
Or wait for NotebookCheck review.
Cause we aint getting any more detailed audio reviews on Arena anymore obviously.
Shanti Dope, 04 Jun 2020"How does setting a lower maximum brightness level than normal for flagship device of a certai... moreHad to make a separate point for this one...
--"they're not even investing into R&D for display advancements either (the last one was the Retina display"
Retina display is nothing but a marketing term for surpassing 300ppi.
It is not any form of special technology.
IN FACT I believe the first device to do that was a Sony phone. Years before Apple did it. So that was not any form of r&d or pioneering from Apple at all.
And as for this...
--"it was during the time of Steve Jobs when Apple was actually investing into R&D instead of creating an existing stuff, customize a bit to make it a little better, then price it as if the world has never had it before)."
No... all that is because of jobs. And exactly why it is still like that today. Like retina. Just rebranding existing technology to fool people into thinking they made something special. When in reality it was already created and pioneered by others.
Shanti Dope, 04 Jun 2020"How does setting a lower maximum brightness level than normal for flagship device of a certai... moreFor the love of God can you even read???????
I quoted you and went into detail about all of that to specifically explain all of this.
You either have severe reading and comprehension issues, are purposefully not paying attention, or English is not your first language and you need much more practice before continuing to bother people.
"I don't get what you're trying to say here, but your own statement has pretty much answered your question already."
Because this is what you said and I already quoted this to point out and explain...
--YOU SAID advantages of oled:
"is the more lively color reproduction and better brightness"
"setting it on the lowest brightness simply defeats that purpose"
--Then you said:
"So Sony limited the brightness to around 600 nits to prevent this issue from happening"
Basically you said Sony limited the maximum brightness to solve the issue of leaving screen brightness too low.
Whether or not that is what you meant to say that is what your typing said.
Which is specifically why I said
"That makes zero sense at all."
And why I also said
"If you meant that solved the burn in issues then you completely messed up your wording and connections."
Because what you typed out and what you meant to say are two different things.
Also me pointing out how that doesn't make sense did not "answer my own question". That statement makes no sense at all.
Next.... you said:
--"Only in certain scenarios, such as night time viewing,"
Who are you to decide what brightness levels people can or should have? Or when or what level they can keep it dim?
And just because some people keep it dimmer doesn't mean you know exactly how dim or how often they keep it. As to claim they are wasting it.
You shouldn't assume. Nor should you judge.
And just because some people keep it dim doesn't mean most do and that you need to be so worked up over it.
--"so outside viewing experience will not be a problem on them," "Sony wouldn't be stubborn on allowing to shine brighter if they know there won't be any risk." "They pioneered this technology after all".
This is just excuses and again samsung did more pioneering in mobile oled than Sony.
Next... in response to me saying if you meant the burn in then you messed up your wording...
"It IS a solution in a sense that it PREVENTS the thing from happening"
"If there's anything wrong about it, then it's got to be your understanding of what I've said, as I have clearly explained my own reasoning based on facts that I've read."
NO. You were the one with the understanding issue. And it's not only my words but you didn't understand your own words. Because again... clearly me saying
"IF YOU MEANT IT SOLVED BURN IN" means I CLEARLY understood that it was possibly you were trying to say that solved burn in....duh!?
As I've now pointed out already the issue was that while you meant the lower maximum brightness was supposed to solve burn in what you actually typed implied the lower maximum brightness solved people turning their screens down to low.
You have to watch how you type/say things. Especially with English. Every little variable can completely change the meaning of what you say.
My comment "One way makes no sense and the other is a poor excuse."
Was again because you miss worded what you were trying to say. So I explained the the differences from what you actually said and what you probably meant to say. And how both were wrong.
-What you said didn't make sense.
-What you meant to say was still an excuse.
1. On one hand it didn't make sense that a lower max brightness prevented people from putting the brightness all the way down. Which is what you typed. Like it or not it is what you said.
2. On the other hand, knowing you probably meant burn in, that is a poor excuse. Again it's probably more to do with being vein. Which is silly because most people won't have it cranked all the way up all the time. And that's why there is auto vs manual. So it was pointless.
--So you saying "Adults like you should've understood. I already explained how things are working" "it's on your part now to conceptualize everything that I've said."
is just you being rude and completely missing that I've already properly explained everything. And you missing your own errors.
--"You just gave a benefit of such move."
No... limiting it just because some people would foolishly keep it all the way up at all times and complain their battery life is not as good as others is not an advantage. It's a punishment to the majority with excuses for Sony to make themselves look better. Again. It's more to save face rather than needed. Battery endurance will be more than adequate for the majority.
Especially since they finally put a reasonable sized flagship battery in a phone...
--"Just because they don't produce such products with such technology, doesn't mean they know nothing about it."
NO DIP SHERLOCK....I never once said or implied they didn't know anything about it.
--"Definitely not if they've pioneered it, like I've said. If such was the case, then their first phone with OLED wouldn't be that good"
Again the point was that samsung was just as much a pioneer of them if not more so in mobile oled. Which is simple facts whether you like it or not.
Not to say Sony was not a pioneer in oled.
And actually if their first mobile oled had been like 5 to 7 years ago it probably wouldn't have been on the same level of Samsung's. It's not just their skill in displays that made their first "main" and flagship oled so good, but also just the time of release. They waited until oleds were extremely matured and ALL mobile displays had amazing specs before they finally made one. So that played a key factor in it too. Not just their skill in it.
That's simple logic whether you accept it or not.
--"consumers preferred it over the ones from Samsung in a blind and unbiased test."
That was a small and limited test. And lab results from places like here on gsmarena still proved the galaxy had a technical edge.
So keep dreaming
Alex, 04 Jun 2020I DO NOT believe that you're checking the camera, screen, speaker(s), etc. with your own eyes ... moreMind if I ask why? I don't really care about the fact you don't believe me, but rather I'm interested in the reason why you, who barely know me, should have strong doubts about what I said regarding to stuffs I do.
And I'll be completely honest here - I'm a gadget enthusiast so I find joys when testing out devices myself in the store. I don't have any reasons NOT to try them out when they are available.
Nick Tagataka, 04 Jun 2020If a company states a specific number to quantify the performance of their product in a certai... moreI DO NOT believe that you're checking the camera, screen, speaker(s), etc. with your own eyes and ears, if you rely on Dxowhatever, their samples, and you're waiting for someone to test something so you could form an opinion. You are free to claim so, but i do not believe it.