Same problem as always with Sony.
A 4K display coupled with a 4000 battery? If they can't identify that they is too small then they're simply stupid.
OnePlus 8 Pro which I have doesn't have a 4K display, it's 1440p, the battery is 4400 and it could have benefited from being bigger, so a 4000MAh battery on a 4K phone is just ridiculous, you will be lucky to see the day out.
100% should have been 5000MAh, it's as simple as that
saved, 31 May 2020>>So much for these guys bragging about viewing 4k content. >>It's not even acces... moreOppo and OnePlus phones run at 120Hz pretty much all the time, even when watching videos if you have Video Motion Enhancement turned on under display settings.
Nick Tagataka, 31 May 2020https://www.xda-developers.com/smartphone-display-terminology-explained/
To calculate the eff... moreIf you think i'm dumb, could you please try to explain to me why I have to listen to somebody claiming some darn formulas about square roots and not to my own common sense? Who even invented that formula? CEO of the Samsung OLED department?
An OLED screen that has 1440*3040 pixels claimed, has
This enables the display to recreate an 720*1520 RGB image, and 1440*3040 with some magic. You don't have to be a bachelor of math to understand that 720 blue, 720 red and 720 green pixels stand for a 720p display. What makes you believe that by adding 720p more in green, you turn a 720p screen into a 1440p screen?
Now please explain to me how i'm going to see green OLED pixels "effectively" substituting for blue and red.
Nick Tagataka, 31 May 2020Don't you know many of those who bought the Exynos variant of S10 and S20 (which GSMArena also... moreThese guys are completely delusional.
Can't accept any form of criticism of their favorite brand.
They are pouncing on Gsmarena for their unbiased review.
These guys are Paid tr*lls at best.
[deleted post]Why don't you get off this site then?
Go tr*ll on other Sony forums.
GSMarena is not the place for you.
[deleted post]OnePlus traditionally has always had average battery life.
He compared Xperia to that. Lol
No need for me to research as other flagship brands have way better endurance rating but he didn't compare them coz he knows he'll be exposed.
saved, 31 May 2020Lol, do you see iPhone, Xiaomi or Huawei fanboys talking nonsense about 4k being a battery hog... moreDon't you know many of those who bought the Exynos variant of S10 and S20 (which GSMArena also conducted their battery test on) are complaining about its poor battery life? Bringing up brand fanboism to the discussion won't help your argument here, in fact the more famous the company is the more they are exposed to criticisms.
If a device has a battery-hog component then its battery won't last long - just as obvious as saying "People die if they are killed".
"hurting from the fact that... not picked up by Sony"
Don't be ridiculous.
saved, 31 May 2020You Samsung, Xiaomi, OnePlus and other chinese phone fanbois should either shut up either base... morehttps://www.xda-developers.com/smartphone-display-terminology-explained/
To calculate the effective resolution of an OLED panel you need to divide the number of pixels on each side by the square root of 2, not 2 - So 3.2K display of Galaxy S20 becomes 2.3K (Essentially FHD+) whereas the one on Xperia 1 II becomes 2.7K display with extra 80 vertical resolution compared to S20's.
When you see how much power the display sucks out of battery, the ones that you should pay your attention to are the web browsing and the video playback scores (especially the latter because browsing slightly more CPU intensive than simply loop-playing the video) and not the overall score. And don't even bother looking at phones with different generation SoCs if you're looking for fairer comparisons.
Anonymous, 31 May 2020Wow you put up some much effort in selectively choosing phones.
Why only Samsung and OnePlus?... moreLol, do you see iPhone, Xiaomi or Huawei fanboys talking nonsense about 4k being a battery hog and a useless gimmick?
Apart, I see a lot of Samsung and OnePlus fanboys hurting from the fact that Samsung's 8k video recording and OnePlus's 120hz screen trends are not picked up by Sony.
Nobody complains about S10 and S20 battery life, these phones are massively sold, but when Sony has similar battery life with 4k screen, it suddenly becomes a battery hog.
Get rid of double standards then give Sony negative comments.
this is only for sony fan boys for sure...
do not buy it if you are not...
as for 4k vs hrr...
if you swipe a lot, then get the hrr... XD
if you watch a lot, of course with the appropriate content, get the 4k...
4k has little practical said the expert reviewer?
4k oled actually looks like 2k ips...
so a 2k oled? right, an fhd ips...
heck, i have a 4k ips (not hdr though) z5 premium, so watching on a 2k oled might not be immersive to people like me who are near sighted...
in the end, get a phone that ticks all the checkboxes of features you want...
again, this is just for sony fanboys... for alpha users? they might get the xperia pro... that is it it will really reach such users... XD
Anonymous, 31 May 2020Upscaled 4k is not going to be as good as native 4k.
Half the content is reduced to lower res... moreyou also don't understand about oled screens
go to wikipedia and read about what pentile is
with OLED when 4k claimed = its native RGB resolution is 2k.
hence we have sony with 4k in green and 2k in blue and red.
everyone else with 1440p in green, 720p in red and blue. You call that a FLAGSHIP SCREEN?
That's why Sony never released OLED screens until they could master 4k - which barely surpasses the FullHD IPS screens of 10 years ago.
before Sony entered the game, OLED has been a way to sell an HD screen at a price of a TV, convincing comsumers it's a 1440p screen.
Now at least with Sony the screens reached 1080p in real RGB, not RG GB.
saved, 31 May 2020You Samsung, Xiaomi, OnePlus and other chinese phone fanbois should either shut up either base... moreWow you put up some much effort in selectively choosing phones.
Why only Samsung and OnePlus?
Where are the numbers comparing endurance rating of Sony to other flagships that year?
Exyvia, 31 May 2020Technically - it's water resistant. Sorry to for being semantic lol
Water damage is normal... moreThe problem is Glass sandwich design these days.
All that IP68 rating is rendered useless on modern smartphones with a simply crack.
If you accidentally drop your phone and it gets cracked all that water resistance is gone.
Anonymous, 31 May 2020You instead of doing a lot of reading what others think and then forwarding their opinion shou... moreUpscaled 4k is not going to be as good as native 4k.
Half the content is reduced to lower resolution by apps
So basically, it's proven that the 4k display is useless in majority of the cases on a smartphone and a total gimmick at best.
Mons, 31 May 2020It is IP68 certified, so technically yes, although I think it's not covered by the warranty in... moreTechnically - it's water resistant. Sorry to for being semantic lol
Water damage is normally not covered - as it'll mostly be user error for not closing slim tray enough, too deep, too long or what not. However, if you have a valid reason like faulty o-ring and the customer service agrees, you could have it replaced - albeit very rare.
Anders, 31 May 2020Sony don't want to you test the battery life because they know it will be terrible. Battery is... moreYou Samsung, Xiaomi, OnePlus and other chinese phone fanbois should either shut up either base your rubbish opinions on facts.
As you will see from this table I carefully collected for you, 4k does NOT affect battery life as much as you all think.
Samsung Galaxy S20, 2k OLED, 4000mah: 71h
web 10:48h video 9:09h
Xperia XZ Premium, 4k IPS, 3230mah: 72h
web 10:04h, video 8:04h
OnePlus 3, FullHD OLED, 3000mah: 66h
web 8:03h, video 13:15h
Xperia Z5 Premium, 4k IPS, 3530mah: 66h
web 9:29h, video 7:14h
OnePlus 6, FullHD+ OLED, 3300mah:76h
web 9:19h, video 14:27h
Xperia XZ2 Premium, 4K IPS, 3540mah:77h
web 9:23h video 7:56h
Samsung Galaxy S10, 1440p OLED, 3400mah: 79h
web 10:10h 12:56h
Xperia 1, 4k OLED, 3330mah: 79h
web 8:57h video 11:10h
More than that, due to its technology, OLED screens always only have half of the claimed resolution in Blue and Red, because they cheat and calculate the resolution in green dots, which they always make twice much of. So, because they claim 4k, only in 2k it will actually be true Full RGB resolution of the panel, which on IPS screens has been a standard since 2011. Yes, OLED screens are THAT much behind IPS screens, and YES they had to cheat because nobody would buy Galaxy if they knew their real resolution is 720p.
Anonymous, 31 May 2020Read the gsmarena review carefully again blind boy.
"We were able to play HDR content from... moreYou instead of doing a lot of reading what others think and then forwarding their opinion should get Xperia 1 and then talk about what it can do and what it can't. Every locally stored video on Xperia 1 gets upscaled to native resolution and gets HDR enhanced. Every game you play today renders in native resolution (unless the game is capped with resolution but all major releases go beyond WQHD pretty much). I don't know what's going on with YouTube it could be false test result read out much like how it reads out the wrong tele sensor or it could be they used YouTube app instead of web. You can play YouTube on any screen at any resolution but you can play 4K YouTube on Xperia 1 in native resolution. Netflix and Amazon cap their video resolution for mobiles so there is nothing you can do about it which means that you would get Amazon 720p even on your favorite phone.
that is not just on that phone
I do not use my phone for gaming or even watching movies, I do not watch my netflix on my phone either (why should I, I have a great 55" TV), I am mostly using my phone for photos and some business stuff.
Will non-gamers even notice magnificent difference between 60, 90 or 120 Hz during using the phone? In these case I think this is just marketing gimmick, I am using S9 and when I compared it to S20 ultra I didn't notice any difference because of using 60 or 120 Hz.
But what do I care is screen resolution, colours and brightens. I would like to compare my phone to this one and see those 1B colours vs my 16M.
Abucantona , 31 May 2020Is this waterproof, can we get down to swimming pool and video or take pictures under water.?? It is IP68 certified, so technically yes, although I think it's not covered by the warranty in case of damage.
I've done it with my xz1 compact and it worked fine