Sony Xperia 1 II review Comments
- Anonymous
- LHe
Anonymous, 31 May 2020Upscaled 4k is not going to be as good as native 4k.
Half the content is reduced to lower res... moreNative 4K content = 4K BluRay only, everything else is lesser quality.
Streaming in 1080p has quality of 720p while streaming in UHD has 1080p quality no matter the platform being Netflix or Apple or something else. When you stream you are already duping down on quality big time. Some TVs like Sony with X-Ultimate can really do wonders when they upscale to UHD so it's not as noticeable. Now Xperia does not have that upscaling power at all despite sharing the same technology name but at least they are trying something.
But like other poster has been saying through this thread you don't need to worry about resolution on pentile displays as they are a scam pretty much. None of pentile OLED displays have the actual resolution they claim they have due to irregular number of subpixels. There is no way in hell you can replace Blue dot by enabling two greens or something like that. If your image has lot's of deep blue and purple and magenta you can as heck be sure that none of the extra greens light up so resolutions has already been downscaled without you even knowing it.
Have you wondered why vivid screen mode is the brightest one but it's NOT color accurate cause gamma cannot track? Gamma cannot track cause extra green subpixels are dialed in, they produce extra brightness but they throw off the color science. Pentile OLED is a said compromise but because screens are so small they can get away with it. No point of discussing it cause it's too complex for the sake of being cheaper than supreme LCD display. Just take a look at Sharp mobile displays to see what's the display with 0 compromises
- Nick Tagataka
- gRy
saved, 31 May 2020If you think i'm dumb, could you please try to explain to me why I have to listen to somebody ... more>>Green 1440*3040
>>Red 720*1520
>>Blue 720*1520
I think this is where you're doing your calculation wrong, no offence. On diamond pentile matrix there are only HALF the number of each of red and blue pixels compared to green pixels. What you're suggesting is that R and B resolutions are only QUARTER of G - that is, the number of R and B pixels are also quartered from G.
Think of WQHD pentile as a WQHD green pixels combined with FHD blue and FHD red pixels. I hope this clears things up.
- Anonymous
- Mmq
JT, 31 May 2020According to other reviews, it does support micro SD, and the camera app has an option to stor... moreI think that works by treating the card as external storage. Adoptable storage would allow apps to be stored on the card too.
It's not a huge deal with phones with a lot of internal storage, but taking the XZ1 Compact as an example, it had 32GB internal storage. Even though adoptable storage was added in Android 6, it wasn't enabled by Sony on that device so for apps at least, you're limited to the roughly 27GB usable internal storage. When there are micro SD cards optimized for random IO and for saving 4K video to directly, it would be nice for the review to mention what the device can do with them.
Also it would be great if the specifications page listed the usable internal storage for a fresh device.
- Anonymous
- 0sR
So much negativity, calling out names and fighting in the comments.
Besides, the review is half baked, for instance "only 720p on amazon prime" yeah as if it's Xperia fault and other phones are able to render amazon prime in qhd, and more such instances.
So, @GSMArena probably you guys should be more clear next time. Also I wonder when you included camera comparison in xiaomi Mi 10 pro review, so why not here? Half baked, huh?
- Shanti Dope
- C9a
dlads, 31 May 2020Same problem as always with Sony.
A 4K display coupled with a 4000 battery? If they can't ... moreAh, another clueless person basing the outcome solely on specsheet alone.
That would be applicable to Samsung, Apple, Google, OnePlus, Oppo, RealMe, and some others, but not to Sony.
Xperia XZ1 is a living proof of just how important power management is as much as the hardware itself.
Besides, do you even know the fact that this Xperia 1 Mk 2 has a feature called "H.S. Power Control?" I assume you do, in that case you also know that it greatly helps to prolong the longevity of the battery's health, and have less degradation than a typical smartphone battery with no such enhancements. To Sony and most people, that's far more important that their phone's battery last longer in terms of lifespan, and now that everyone's stuck at home in this pandemic outbreak, everyone's also have access to power source at all times, so anyone with this phone can simply leave their phones in the charger and use it with H.S. Power Control and not even use the battery at all.
- Shanti Dope
- C9a
Anonymous, 31 May 2020OnePlus traditionally has always had average battery life.
He compared Xperia to that. Lol
... moreSo what? It's still similar in hardware, just with different software.
You didn't say anything about Samsung, which he used to compare Sony phones to, so are you saying that they have great battery life? I assume you do, in that case Sony phones are on par to them despite the lower capacity, which makes it wonder what they can do with 4000mAh battery if their 3330mAh battery is on par with Samsung's 4100mAh battery.
It's not like he's obligated to compare Sony phones to basically everyone just to fulfill your laziness to do so.
If you want to make a point yourself, then you do it by yourself. You have no caretaker on the internet, especially not here.
- dlads
- myp
Same problem as always with Sony.
A 4K display coupled with a 4000 battery? If they can't identify that they is too small then they're simply stupid.
OnePlus 8 Pro which I have doesn't have a 4K display, it's 1440p, the battery is 4400 and it could have benefited from being bigger, so a 4000MAh battery on a 4K phone is just ridiculous, you will be lucky to see the day out.
100% should have been 5000MAh, it's as simple as that
- Nick Tagataka
- gRy
saved, 31 May 2020>>So much for these guys bragging about viewing 4k content. >>It's not even acces... moreOppo and OnePlus phones run at 120Hz pretty much all the time, even when watching videos if you have Video Motion Enhancement turned on under display settings.
- saved
- RRK
Nick Tagataka, 31 May 2020https://www.xda-developers.com/smartphone-display-terminology-explained/
To calculate the eff... moreIf you think i'm dumb, could you please try to explain to me why I have to listen to somebody claiming some darn formulas about square roots and not to my own common sense? Who even invented that formula? CEO of the Samsung OLED department?
An OLED screen that has 1440*3040 pixels claimed, has
Green 1440*3040
Red 720*1520
Blue 720*1520
This enables the display to recreate an 720*1520 RGB image, and 1440*3040 with some magic. You don't have to be a bachelor of math to understand that 720 blue, 720 red and 720 green pixels stand for a 720p display. What makes you believe that by adding 720p more in green, you turn a 720p screen into a 1440p screen?
Now please explain to me how i'm going to see green OLED pixels "effectively" substituting for blue and red.
- Anonymous
- Kxr
Nick Tagataka, 31 May 2020Don't you know many of those who bought the Exynos variant of S10 and S20 (which GSMArena also... moreThese guys are completely delusional.
Can't accept any form of criticism of their favorite brand.
They are pouncing on Gsmarena for their unbiased review.
These guys are Paid tr*lls at best.
- Anonymous
- Kxr
[deleted post]Why don't you get off this site then?
Go tr*ll on other Sony forums.
GSMarena is not the place for you.
- Anonymous
- Kxr
[deleted post]OnePlus traditionally has always had average battery life.
He compared Xperia to that. Lol
No need for me to research as other flagship brands have way better endurance rating but he didn't compare them coz he knows he'll be exposed.
- ionno_too
- r3H
Xperia 1ii is a complete device
- Nick Tagataka
- gRy
saved, 31 May 2020Lol, do you see iPhone, Xiaomi or Huawei fanboys talking nonsense about 4k being a battery hog... moreDon't you know many of those who bought the Exynos variant of S10 and S20 (which GSMArena also conducted their battery test on) are complaining about its poor battery life? Bringing up brand fanboism to the discussion won't help your argument here, in fact the more famous the company is the more they are exposed to criticisms.
If a device has a battery-hog component then its battery won't last long - just as obvious as saying "People die if they are killed".
"hurting from the fact that... not picked up by Sony"
Don't be ridiculous.
- Nick Tagataka
- gRy
saved, 31 May 2020You Samsung, Xiaomi, OnePlus and other chinese phone fanbois should either shut up either base... morehttps://www.xda-developers.com/smartphone-display-terminology-explained/
To calculate the effective resolution of an OLED panel you need to divide the number of pixels on each side by the square root of 2, not 2 - So 3.2K display of Galaxy S20 becomes 2.3K (Essentially FHD+) whereas the one on Xperia 1 II becomes 2.7K display with extra 80 vertical resolution compared to S20's.
When you see how much power the display sucks out of battery, the ones that you should pay your attention to are the web browsing and the video playback scores (especially the latter because browsing slightly more CPU intensive than simply loop-playing the video) and not the overall score. And don't even bother looking at phones with different generation SoCs if you're looking for fairer comparisons.
- saved
- RRK
Anonymous, 31 May 2020Wow you put up some much effort in selectively choosing phones.
Why only Samsung and OnePlus?... moreLol, do you see iPhone, Xiaomi or Huawei fanboys talking nonsense about 4k being a battery hog and a useless gimmick?
Apart, I see a lot of Samsung and OnePlus fanboys hurting from the fact that Samsung's 8k video recording and OnePlus's 120hz screen trends are not picked up by Sony.
Nobody complains about S10 and S20 battery life, these phones are massively sold, but when Sony has similar battery life with 4k screen, it suddenly becomes a battery hog.
Get rid of double standards then give Sony negative comments.
- pan
- sxr
this is only for sony fan boys for sure...
do not buy it if you are not...
as for 4k vs hrr...
if you swipe a lot, then get the hrr... XD
if you watch a lot, of course with the appropriate content, get the 4k...
4k has little practical said the expert reviewer?
4k oled actually looks like 2k ips...
so a 2k oled? right, an fhd ips...
heck, i have a 4k ips (not hdr though) z5 premium, so watching on a 2k oled might not be immersive to people like me who are near sighted...
in the end, get a phone that ticks all the checkboxes of features you want...
again, this is just for sony fanboys... for alpha users? they might get the xperia pro... that is it it will really reach such users... XD
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- RRK
Anonymous, 31 May 2020Upscaled 4k is not going to be as good as native 4k.
Half the content is reduced to lower res... moreyou also don't understand about oled screens
go to wikipedia and read about what pentile is
with OLED when 4k claimed = its native RGB resolution is 2k.
hence we have sony with 4k in green and 2k in blue and red.
everyone else with 1440p in green, 720p in red and blue. You call that a FLAGSHIP SCREEN?
That's why Sony never released OLED screens until they could master 4k - which barely surpasses the FullHD IPS screens of 10 years ago.
before Sony entered the game, OLED has been a way to sell an HD screen at a price of a TV, convincing comsumers it's a 1440p screen.
Now at least with Sony the screens reached 1080p in real RGB, not RG GB.
- Anonymous
- Kxr
saved, 31 May 2020You Samsung, Xiaomi, OnePlus and other chinese phone fanbois should either shut up either base... moreWow you put up some much effort in selectively choosing phones.
Why only Samsung and OnePlus?
Where are the numbers comparing endurance rating of Sony to other flagships that year?
- Anonymous
- Kxr
Exyvia, 31 May 2020Technically - it's water resistant. Sorry to for being semantic lol
Water damage is normal... moreThe problem is Glass sandwich design these days.
All that IP68 rating is rendered useless on modern smartphones with a simply crack.
If you accidentally drop your phone and it gets cracked all that water resistance is gone.
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