Nick Tagataka, 28 Oct 2020Some Chinese high end phones still have a comparable texture rendition to Pixel during the day... moreAlso the pixel 5 does takes a bit of time to click images (given its always on hdr mode paired with SD765) compared to phones with bigger sensor and SD865.
The phone will age poorly coz of the processor.
Anonymous, 27 Oct 2020I'm not on par with your "alternatives"!
Also does the Oneplus Nord have mo... moreIt's called buyers remorse.
Keep justifying that the 765 at sub 800$ is a good deal.
Me personally would never touch a pixel phone ever (given their track record of "meh" type of devices)
About the battery test... wasn't the web browser test done in 90hz then? I understand if the video test ends up in 60hz and the call time... well, I guess the display isn't even on then.
Anonymous, 27 Oct 2020No, the Chinese flagships do not have a better color balance. Just look at the grass shots in... moreSome Chinese high end phones still have a comparable texture rendition to Pixel during the day and usually a lot better at night because of the large sensor size (unless you use Night Sight on Pixel). Google's mix of aggressive contrast enhancement and dehaze filter in the post processing has never been my cup of tea, and they certainly managed to make it a lot more artificial than back in Nexus 6P/OG Pixel era.. Good lord that they added the option to shoot in RAW. There is still a room for improvements in the way Oppo/Vivo/OnePlus handles the images, but Xiaomi is getting there and Huawei is definitely the best in terms of the detail rendering/noise reduction, though the digital crop they apply by default hurts the per-pixel sharpness quite a bit. As for colours, you can turn off the AI to make it look a lot more natural, as I already said before.
iPhones have nice colours (if a bit too cold and greenish in many scenario) and their night mode is easily one of the best, but the amount of compression, sharpening and local contrast boost they apply during the day are hilariously excessive and on top of that photos still look like they have come out of a small sensor like those from Pixel. As far as I could tell I don't see a whole lot of difference between 12 Pro and 11 Pro, but I guess the situation would be slightly better on 12 Pro Max that comes with the brand new 1/1.7" sensor.
Anonymous, 27 Oct 2020Superb battery?
Bwahaha what a home, that battery life is terrible when looking at the batt... moreYeah that was my reaction too.
93hr battery (while objectively good) seems pretty underwhelming, esp when Xperia 5 ii got over 100hr with a 120hz refresh and Snapdragon 865 processor
Bwahaha what a home, that battery life is terrible when looking at the battery size and the capabilities of the chip being power efficient.
My phone with a 3500mah battery has roughly same endurance, the new snapdragon + that battery size can do ao much better.
For the rest... if you must have a Pixel phone get the 4a 5G instead, pretty much same phone for much less.
Nick Tagataka, 27 Oct 2020The colour reproduction is nothing to do with the computational imaging itself as it's al... moreNo, the Chinese flagships do not have a better color balance. Just look at the grass shots in the recent Xiaomi reviews and to a large extent, the Huawei reviews and the color is terrible, like a velvet painting. The Chinese flagships also render grass and foliage texture poorly, with a feathered look and obvious overprocessing at 100%. Google does a much better job, as does Apple.
I have purchased a couple of the top-rated phones according to DxOMark during the last couple of years and have been disappointed and frustrated by both. GCam helps, up to a point. But I guess some people like velvet paintings.
I'm not on par with your "alternatives"!
Also does the Oneplus Nord have more cameras, BUT yet NO Telephoto lense! You only get a telephoto lense + ultrawide + wide in the Samsung S20FE, which misses out the 5G and comes with a worse SOC at 600$ (the pixel 5 is 600$ outside the US because of the mmwave technology!)!
Both the Nord and the FE been tested average, the nord even below average when it comes to photo quality (even if it offers a better main camera on paper). When comparing the OP 8t you also DONT get a telephoto lense and an ultra-wide with 16mp like the pixel 5 one. The OP8t with 5g is 50-100$ more expensive than the pixel 5 (matter of location). Though you get higher MP in the main camera, if you are up for that (pixel 5 still creates beter photos by software). The Nord also misses out on the Qi-charging front and has no USB 3.0 or 3.1, has gorilla glass 5 instead of 6, is made of plastic, BUT has an ultra-wide front cam.
You DON'T get more when choosing 400$ phones. Most phones at 400$, fake around their cameras. They are often below average but always don't offer more combinations than wide and Ultrawide, just like the Pixel 5. There is no need for 2MP Macro-Cameras or depth-cameras. Most 400$ phones offer 5g only when spending 100$ more (cept the Nord, which I already stated has bad cameras).
The only real alternative to the pixel 5 is the iphone 12 which is near the same size with 6,1", better video qualities, Face unlock, mag safe accessoires, etc., but is also 100-200$ more expensive and YET does NOT offer a telephoto lense! Also the s20 FE is a true android alternative. Its also the only phone offering wide, ultrawide and telephoto in one phone sub 800$, but is much larger with 6,5" AND it also plays around with prices. You won't get an SD865 (none +) and no 5g for 700$ - but only 4G and an much unloved Exynos chipset. And you only get a plastic back in the 700 and 800$ version.
Conclusion: Google packed its 5 with everything to expect from a phone sub 800$ (700$ inside US, 620$ outside US): 90hz, 5g, wireless charging, USB 3.1, bezelless design (not even a chin!), ultrawide/wide camera setup which is still one of the best, still the best night-mode, finally 4k videso at 60hz, 8GB RAM, no plastic back. Still it misses out on the front camera and the ROM offered. The missing 120hz and 6,5" is up to you guys, most phones will operate in 60hz anyways to save battery. No game right now runs on more than 60hz on android.
I know why I bought the pixel 5. Google finally done most thigs right!
As much as it's nice to see it compared to a one plus and a iPhone, it would be nice to see more direct comparison to the comparable tier Samsung, LG, Motorola, and other common phone brands the US carriers push. One Plus looks nice, but it's not something many Americans are likely to pick up at the mall...
Javierech, 27 Oct 2020I'm sorry but at least in my country is 250 usd more expensiveSame price in my country too and look what crap it is! Xperia 5II (1 and 5 also - cheaper and ultra faster) it's deluxe compared to this!
The speaker is terrible. Makes it almost unbearable to use the phone for its primary purpose... To make calls!
Anonymous, 27 Oct 2020But if there is nothing wrong with it, how do you return it under the warranty?It's a customer protection "thing". You do not even have to give a reason why you return it - just send it back, not damaged ofc., and you get all your money back.
It seems you do not have this law in your country, that's a huge bummer dude.
Anonymous, 27 Oct 2020It's refreshing to see grass and foliage realistic color and detail after all the Chinese... moreThe colour reproduction is nothing to do with the computational imaging itself as it's all tweaked in post processing lol. I would also say many high end Chinese flagships nowadays have overall better balance between noise and details than Pixel mostly thanks to the sheer size of their sensors. This generation's offering from Google doesn't boost up the saturation level high but definitely applies a lot of dehaze filter and sharpening to achieve the typical "GCam look" which I'm not really a fan of.