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GSMArena Team, 27 November 2020

Camera test: The top flagships of the year Comments

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  • Mate 40 Pro
  • iPhone 12 Pro Max

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  • Anonymous
  • StU
  • 01 Dec 2020

iOS.Never.Again, 01 Dec 2020The Verge is literally the laughing stock among the tech community. Didn't I tell you t... moreI imagine anyone that disagrees with your high and mighty opinion warrants that description......

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    • iOS.Never.Again
    • 7k9
    • 01 Dec 2020

    Android Authority, 01 Dec 2020So according to you, My personal experience is unreliable, DxOMark is unreliable, this site is... moreI am pretty sure your Mi 10 ultra is beating iPhone in terms of every camera sensor out there.

    IPhone zoom is laughable compared to the flexible 2x and 5x options with premium quality images in all conditions.

    Video recording on Mi 10 ultra is also better especially in low light as iPhone can only deliver noisy output. Good dynamic range in videos but noisy output compared to big boy sensors on Android. Stabilization on Mi 10 ultra is also better as I have checked in online reviews despite iPhone having sensor shift stabilization.

    Mi 10 ultra widest FOV for Ultrawide along with autofocus making it do double duties as a macro camera. IPhone Ultrawide doesn't even have autofocus. They do deep fusion trick to produce passable images from Ultrawide.

    No fake looking background blur like iPhone on Mi 10 ultra. Smooth natural detailed images with best dynamic range.

    Main sensor doesn't even need night mode like iPhone.
    Best in class images only rivaled by the Huawei flagships.

    Only area where iPhone camera beats the MI 10 ultra is in the front camera department.

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      • iOS.Never.Again
      • 7k9
      • 01 Dec 2020

      JDK, 01 Dec 2020you deemed the verge as unreliable. Whenever a tech site says something good about iPhones,... moreThe Verge is literally the laughing stock among the tech community.
      Didn't I tell you that long back Junior?

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        • Android Authority
        • Mxm
        • 01 Dec 2020

        JDK, 01 Dec 2020First of all, you were comparing the mi 10 ultra's telephoto with the iPhone's wide ... moreLook beyond this comparison blind guy.
        Go and check iPhone 12 series review on this site.
        They recommended to leave night mode on (which is automatically activated on iPhone in low light situations) for Ultrawide and telephoto cameras.
        And turning off night mode in low light will give you less sharper, more noisy images from Main sensor, so they recommend it to leave that on as well.
        People don't want to downgrade to 3rd grade camera hardware like on the iPhone (3rd grade hardware when compared to other flagships).
        Besides, you don't even own an iPhone, What a Joke!

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          • JDK
          • ybx
          • 01 Dec 2020

          Android Authority, 01 Dec 2020So according to you, My personal experience is unreliable, DxOMark is unreliable, this site is... moreyou deemed the verge as unreliable.

          Whenever a tech site says something good about iPhones, you call them unreliable.

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            • JDK
            • ybx
            • 01 Dec 2020

            Android Authority, 01 Dec 2020I am comparing telephoto lens. The 2x telephoto/Potrait sensor is as big as iPhones main senso... moreFirst of all, you were comparing the mi 10 ultra's telephoto with the iPhone's wide and saying they are the same quality, LOL.

            And when did GSMA advise to keep on night mode at all times? It said here:

            "If we had to pick one phone for white balance and color handling in low light, it would be the iPhone 12 Pro Max. It doesn't have the Note's strong orange bias, nor the Mate's colder rendition. The iPhone gives the actual cold white sources a pleasing warming up."

            And before you say this is night mode quality, read above:

            "So, ultimately, we shot the test scenes twice. For the first pass, the Huawei and the Galaxy we kept in Photo mode, and we diligently disabled the Night mode on the iPhone while the Xperia was doing what it's doing."
            https://www.gsmarena.com/flagship_camera_comparison_fall_2020-review-2202p7.php

            And so you say iPhone needs night mode on to compete? What a joke.

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              • Anonymous
              • TSL
              • 01 Dec 2020

              Where's Pixel 5

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                • yes
                • 0x%
                • 01 Dec 2020

                Xperia is the best if in correct hands. Unfortunately they didnt focus on casual consumer that only clicks the button.

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                  • Anonymous
                  • S9u
                  • 01 Dec 2020

                  I love mate 40pro and note 20 ultra ,others are ok ,only xperia is really bad

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                    • Anonymous
                    • LHe
                    • 01 Dec 2020

                    Anonymous, 01 Dec 2020Xperia is the worst one among all flagships. Well.. it happens every year Not really. Unless videos in this comparo are labeled wrong Xperia 1II with Samsung delivers the best video. Unless GSMA did some more internal videos I don't understand all the praise iPhone 12 Pro gets over the others.

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                      • Anonymous
                      • TkN
                      • 01 Dec 2020

                      [deleted post]Seems my first response to this wasn't like by the moderators, can't think why. Made too much sense I guess...

                      Your going to have to now show where I have been "mercilessly bashing" the Mi10 Ultra? (yes I do know it's name, obviously sarcasm isn't your strong suit).

                      Also, I like to know what you mean by this: "The thing that you can't handle is that Huawei and Xiaomi are Chinese brands."

                      what exactly are you implying here?

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                        • iOS.Never.Again
                        • 7kd
                        • 01 Dec 2020

                        Anonymous, 01 Dec 2020Zoom is so great that certain Android oem's have started walking it back a bit, it's... moreGood job talking about 50x and 100x zoom.
                        That is just advertising like iPhone telling their users they have 5x optical zoom when in reality, it is nothing but 2.5x optical zoom (which is so year 2017).
                        Just like Apple advertising Magsafe, yet it isn't safe with those weak magnets or the Sapphire on camera lens which was exposed to be regular glass.

                        The 5x, 10x zoom are perfect and work without problems.

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                          • Anonymous
                          • TkN
                          • 01 Dec 2020

                          Android Authority, 01 Dec 2020So according to you, My personal experience is unreliable, DxOMark is unreliable, this site is... moreI could care less about the Me Mi Mo Ultra 5g pro super duper mega edition, or whatever it's called to be honest. I'm sure it's a very decent camera experience and all, but it's a device I have precisely zero interest in.

                          And yes your opinion is just that, So when you prattle on about how superior something is, I'll take it as only your biased opinion and nothing more.

                          As for this site, it's not making that same claim, and I continue to be very sceptical of the whole DXOmark thing,

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                            • Anonymous
                            • TkN
                            • 01 Dec 2020

                            Android Authority, 01 Dec 2020"Apple do have a history of letting the Androids of this world fumble with clumsy impleme... moreZoom is so great that certain Android oem's have started walking it back a bit, it's space zoom 100x for Samsung one moment, down to 50x on the next big device. And the jury is still out the the detrimental effects of 'ultra fast charging' over time (android fans are the very epitome of beta testers here).

                            High refresh rate, yeah will give you that one, am happy to wait for it though, it's neither here nor there for me to be honest.

                            And I missed widgets just so much from my android days, that I haven't bothered adding any to my home screen on my 12 Pro.

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                              • Android Authority
                              • Mxm
                              • 01 Dec 2020

                              Anonymous, 01 Dec 2020He's doing exactly what this article tried not to do, draw a definitive conclusion. I ... moreSo according to you, My personal experience is unreliable, DxOMark is unreliable, this site is unreliable, all other tech sites that reviewed the MI 10 ultra are also lying about its camera being that good.
                              Only person to trust is some random anonymous guy who can't swallow the fact that Mi 10 ultra offers a superb camera experience.

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                                • Android Authority
                                • Mxm
                                • 01 Dec 2020

                                Anonymous, 01 Dec 2020Another nonsensical point, if I wanted an android....I'd buy an android. I have in the pa... more"Apple do have a history of letting the Androids of this world fumble with clumsy implementations of emerging technologies, Droid fans make great beta testers, they'll jump at anything new. Apple then add these features themselves when they know it can be done right, and offer actual user benefits."

                                The zoom implementations, high refresh rate implementations, ultra fast charging implementations and many other things are already perfect and actually offers a ton of benefits.
                                We aren't beta testers, you guys are the ones getting these things late. Some of them you'll get a decade late like widgets.

                                Apple's goal of maximum profits at the cost of giving consumers outdated hardware and software is clear. They even removed the charger inside the box this year. One doesn't need to be an expert to see through these things.
                                Not all of us are lame enough to be paying a premium for outdated tech inside.

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                                  • Anonymous
                                  • TkN
                                  • 01 Dec 2020

                                  Regedit, 01 Dec 2020so are you from china? or Imported the Mi ultra from china? which is correct? In isolation,... moreHe's doing exactly what this article tried not to do, draw a definitive conclusion.

                                  I said in an earlier post that the fanboys wouldn't be able to help themselves in doing just this, and it's because they don't know any better.

                                  He's now referring to DXOmark, a site who's relevance and validity has been questioned for years at this point. It's always been my experience that fanboys tend to waffle on incessantly about DXOmark when they're favourite brand/ device is number 1, and then pretend they don't exist when that is not the case.

                                  The takeaway from this article is your not really going to wrong with any of these devices, if camera quality is your main concern. Anyone trying to convince you otherwise, either that their own opinion is the correct one, or that you should follow their own biases, is the one with the problem.......

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                                    • Anonymous
                                    • TkN
                                    • 01 Dec 2020

                                    Another nonsensical point, if I wanted an android....I'd buy an android. I have in the past, I can do so again, it's really very simple......
                                    so why would I be jealous????

                                    Also, you mentioned gimmicks, so we are talking about gimmicks, do try to keep up will you.

                                    Who knows why they haven't tackled distance zooming yet, you sure as hell don't. When they do do it, it'll likely be done well enough.

                                    Apple do have a history of letting the Androids of this world fumble with clumsy implementations of emerging technologies, Droid fans make great beta testers, they'll jump at anything new. Apple then add these features themselves when they know it can be done right, and offer actual user benefits.

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                                      • Android Authority
                                      • Mxm
                                      • 01 Dec 2020

                                      Anonymous, 01 Dec 2020I really don't understand how I keep seeing all the droidheads complaining about iPhone &... moreLooks like you are jealous of what Android has to offer.
                                      Why not list out all the other features that aren't gimmicks?

                                      Haha you are rationalizing other companies giving 5x-10x optical zoom for spying?
                                      Apple probably hasn't entered long zoom range space yet simply coz they believe in getting away by giving the least amount of useful features to consumers with the sole intention of making maximum profits.

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                                        • Anonymous
                                        • TkN
                                        • 01 Dec 2020

                                        Android Authority, 01 Dec 2020But that 2x zoom module is much higher quality. Infact it is about the same size as the one u... moreI really don't understand how I keep seeing all the droidheads complaining about iPhone 'gimmicks'

                                        You want to talk about gimmicks, well lets take a look at the android space shall we:

                                        Useless extra camera's - like the pointless 'depth' monochrome' and 'macro's' that might as well just be stickers on the back of the device, just so a claim of multiple cameras can be made.
                                        Curved screens - because i want to view all my content side on apparently.....
                                        TOF cameras - sorry but these things do absolutely nothing on any of the droids that have them.
                                        Air gestures - because not touching your device is apparently a thing.....
                                        space zooms - because being able to take a fuzzy undefinable image of the coast of Australia all the way from India is what we all want it seems.
                                        4k screens - because I want to hold my device 2mm away from my eyes whenever I use it.
                                        Bucket loads of un-needed RAM - I get it, android could be more efficient yes, but 16gb of RAM!! sorry by the time that amount is actually required, the device will be well out of the software support cycle needed to optimise for it.

                                        These are just a small number of the 'gimmicks' droids have in the past or do now feature, android is the very home of 'gimmicks' after all.

                                        The telephoto lens on the 12 pro and Max (especially the Max) are less about being able to spy on people from a different time zone, and are more aimed at optimising for portrait photography. Apple haven't really looked at distance zooming yet.

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