I think gsmarena got it spot on. My friend got this and he said it was a really overrated phone. The touchscreen(the main selling point) is poor, the browser is rubbish, camera not very usable, nokia maps pointless as it doesn't come with free voice nav. and the lack of 3rd party apps is frustrating. My nokia n82 is so much better than this phone, and until then i'd stick with the nokia non-touchscreen s60 devices.
A firmware update of the 5800 is available - v11.0.08.
- Last word disappears when selecting receiver in SMS
- My Nokia: phone displays “#” in front of Application name.
- During Back-Up & Restore operation, calendar entries are not restored
- Operator menu link within Welcome application
- Invalid message pops up before playing the file received via Bluetooth.
- Input Method, VKB just display number when selecting a WLAN access point which contains a password.
- Chinese box HWR control buttons and FS HWR control bar are too small.
- Unable to add image to Contact bar from Gallery when there is about 5 GB of data in memory card
- UI-rotation is too sensitive
- Search: Google search service is missing in Search.
- Could not send new email if user name and password is not pre-defined
- The Messaging application crashes a lot specially when replying or trying to send SMS you have to remove battery to be able to use the device again
- License Manager for Maps is not integrated to SW
- 5.0 Touch: Phonebook crashing when adding detail: Birthday, Anniversary
- Non stop Music Player “Library update”
- Clock, Alarm is inactive when phone is power off.
- APN Configuration Settings Update to be used for the Setting Wizard
- Ex-Factory settings are wrong
- Phone lost correct time during power off
- UE drops from 3G, then cannot sync to 3G cells
- Browser: Flash objects causes problems while browsing
I dont like this phone
It is ugly
And most important of all, I am so used of the very bad software firmware "engineers" of nokia, that I never buy anymore a nokia symbian
I am too tired to backup and flash firmware with the hope of so many bugs fixed
Never more nokia
There are better phones anywhere else
Yours Truly, 15 Jan 2009Well man, you would be surprised if I tell you that I have one here with me, I'm not making up... moresee, it's better if the way you give comment like this
natural and it's ok to also give the bad side of this phone, not just the good side and still natural with them
about the build quality yes it is still a big problem that almost every people will face,I also agree with you because it's kinda annoying for almost every people
hopefully Nokia people will hear this and make better repairment
okan, 15 Jan 2009i think you still haven't try the product itself
don't just give your own judgment without tr... moreWell man, you would be surprised if I tell you that I have one here with me, I'm not making up those pros and cons. If you really tried it, you would know what I mean by poor build quality - it's not poor material quality, but build. It squeaks!!! I've never seen a bar phone squeak.
And to all others...
The Nokia 5800 is a really nice phone, but it has its downsides. I tried to point out the most significant ones, so you can make up your mind more easily whether it's worth it by your books.
The lack of third-party software is almost a deal-breaker for me at this point, while some of you might not even need any additional applications. So stop bashing and make up your mind already.
By the way, GSMArena recommends the device in their conclusion cause it's such as bargain.
GSM arena did right about the interface it is not as smooth as the competitors. but i can live with that for me its a minor issue given time i can get used to it and this baby is almost half there price so not a big deal. GSM arena gave many cons but those are just minor issues that can be fixed in the firmware update. after reading the review i will still buy this baby next week
I do like GSMArena Reviews, but this review was so rude. The compare with Iphone it´s not so fair at all. GSMArena forgot to say that Iphone´s weaknesses like ridiculous camera (iphone has no camera inded), no Copy&Paste feature, no tv-out, that bluetooth has no AD2P, the GPS Software of Iphone is really sucks and other issues. The list of IPhone Weakness its so great that´s impossible to write down it here. Iphone is better only in multi-touch and the browser and no more.
Many of 5800 weaknesses spotted in this review is easily fix in future firmware releases. 5800 has all features of a N Series phone. I guess that 5800 touch interface was designed to help the user and not to be a main feature like in iPhone.
Misha, 15 Jan 2009Hello Amit....
I read ur reviews.....n now m confused whether i shud go for this 5800 xpress ... moredude, get innov8, or at least N82 if you need xenon with the camera.
if you want low price - K800/K850 may be - at least the camera is excellent and sound quality is more than good.
But again - get Samsung Innov8.
Don't Bash Nokia 5800 SO Hard, It's A Great Phone. Nokia First Attempt In Touch Screen Phones ( Apart From The Lousy 7710 ) So It's Just Like Any Other Concepts, It Needs Tweaks And New Firmwares, That's it. Those Take Time, So Stop Being So Critical of The Minor Issues, And Focus on The Features. As For iPhone Lovers, Step Aside You Cannot Bash Nokia 5800 When Your Phone Is Insanely Crippled.
Amit , 15 Jan 2009Dear friends, I bought two 5800 express music from nokia priority dealer in india, on 3rd of j... moreHello Amit....
I read ur reviews.....n now m confused whether i shud go for this 5800 xpress music or not......currently m using nokia 6280.....was waitin for 5800 frm a long time....but after reading reviews over here i think i shud think over it again....my priority is good camera not minimum than 3.2 mpx, gud sound quality, good memory capacity, n ofcourse good looks within this range....Plz suggest me ,,,, shud i go for this or try nyother but i8 don't want to switch on sum other brand also........
Yours Truly, 15 Jan 2009I think GSMArena has got the review right. It's not biased or anything - the Nokia 5800 is not... morei think you still haven't try the product itself
don't just give your own judgment without try the product first
and also the pros and cons are so in general
and i think you also don't know that even though it is build using plastic, still looks gorgeous and doesn't look cheap
i know this because i already try to hold the phone with my own hand and operate it...
I think GSMArena has got the review right. It's not biased or anything - the Nokia 5800 is not the best handset by Nokia and is more like a test sample sent to users and developers out there in somewhat hasty manner. Still it's a nice phone with rich features for a sub-300 euro price tag:
I totally agree and here are my pros&cons:
3.2-inch high-res screen
Wide connectivity options: quad-band, HSDPA, Wi-Fi, GPS, 3.5mm, microUSB
Rich retail pack (with 8GB card included)
VGA video recording
Touch Nokia Maps
Excellent audio quality
UI usability sucks at this stage but does the job
Camera quality sucks and there's no geotagging
Limited 3rd party software (no popular IM clients for example)
Touch web browser not really user-friendly
Somewhat poor build quality and the dreaded "earpiece problem"
Dear friends, I bought two 5800 express music from nokia priority dealer in india, on 3rd of jan, was one of the first buyers. Both the phones developed earphones volume problem, after 2-3 days, Got both of them exchanged with new ones, but even they had same problem, i went to the store, and they agreed to the fact that its stupid nokia factory fault. They agreed to replace it again with the fresh lot that will arrive in next 5-10 days. God, i am really frustrated. hope new handsets dont have the same problem. I was even considering N85 , but its having slider problems.
Why nokia is compromising on quality to this extent?? Grr..
But apart from that , phone was a treat for its price ($400) , Tough i didnt like the camera, (my n73 was much better) , but rest everything was quite acceptable. browsing over wifi was a lot better , coz of the roomy screen. Tough not as gr8 as iphone , it was still a eye cather, then any other nokia phones in line.
GSM ARENA review was a bit on the negative side, but guys its a new OS , New concept and will gradually improve with FW upgrades.
And gamers please stay away from this phone, the phone is not multitouch, so it wont register more than one key presses at once.
Sound quality is awesome i must agree, i didnt use my ipod as long i had 5800 in my hands.
Build quality lot better that n85, over all , a nice package for its price and also future proof, as upcoming models will be based on OS v5.
So You may go for this model if camera is not your priority. (hey you can get a 7.1 mp nikon digicam, way better than any nokia camera ever produced)from just the saving you make, buying 5800 instead of n85)..lol..
well overall its a midrange handset , but some features compete the high class models..and as far as other problems said in the review , are not so much of an issue for this newly born baby(no phone had born perfect) , i still remember n73 taking bad pictures , but things improved considerable after upgrades.
Enjoy your 5800. Take care , bye
I admit that the review has nailed the exact nasty things I was aware of, but I have the strange feeling they exaggerated a bit. And it's probably because they didn't mention all the other great stuff in this phone like I saw in other reviews. And strangely enough those reviews didn't cover up the "flaws' at all. It's just about balancing.
Also, something else: those that continue to compare this with iPhone or SE Xperia need to get a grip on reality: we're talking about phones that cost twice as the 5800 (unlocked).
I hve seen its review on mobile-review.Com
the camera result is not bad at al there go n see by ur selt
Fact – Two years after the iPhone has showed the world what can be done with a touch screen, Nokia come out with this pathetic phone. Two years difference!! Still Nokia is nowhere compared to the iPhone. Ok, nobody expected that from them. But even Samsung and LG tuch interface is much better than Nokia`s. That is a shame Nokia. Another proof that Nokia is going down!
Oh, and the camera quality? Common, you must be joking… LOL
Does this phone have MSN Live Messenger, or can I install MSN Live Messenger onto this phone or I need to find a third-party IM for this phone? I know there is an IM on this phone which GSMarena already mention on their specification. Can the IM on this phone connect to MSN Live Messenger. I know this is not a Windows Mobile handset but yeah, I just have to know because I'm planning to buy this phone for MYR 1,499/-