when i tested the pixon12 one week ago on saturday morning it worked fine, but after 3 hours, when other people played with the phone, the software crashed 3 times, when i tried to activate the camera.
LG insider, 26 Jun 2009LG Renoir HD spex: - 12 Mega pixel camera with 3X optical zoom & 1cm macro. - Full HD video ... moreif the specs provided by you are correct then no one will be effort the phone..not eveb Bill Gates...
Would have been better to compare the camera with the Sony Ericsson Satio.
LG Renoir HD spex:
- 12 Mega pixel camera with 3X optical zoom & 1cm macro.
- Full HD video recording and Slo-Mo @ 300 FPS.
- Real xenon flash + double LED.
- 3.3" OLED WVGA (854X480)
- "Mark Levinson" dual stereo speakers.
- GPS (Garmin) navigation.
- Wifi & DLNA.
- 16 GB internal memory.
- Mini HDMI port.
- 3.5 headphone jack.
- Li-Ion 1500mAh battery.
To be announced end of June..
I agree with what they said about Nokia's response to high end market... Earlier, I was Nokia's hard core fanboy! I owned 6670, N91, and that's it!
I got fed up of missing features, low quality of N91, etc... Then, I went ahead and got myself a Samsung INNOV8 ... Now, i'm totally satisfied ...
While MANY were using Nokia 6600/ 7610/ etc., Samsung already came out with a 3.2 MP Cam Phone... And they still seem to be leading...
We should be open minded ... Tomorrow, if Samsung stops performing, I'll change brands at finger's snap!
And next maybe any brand that performs - Nokia, LG, anything that performs ...
Imran, 26 Jun 2009If you dont know anything about phones then keep your mouth shut.
Samsung was the first to in... moreI'm not talking about concepts and prototypes, but mass production. And you gotta agree about that Nokia made the first mass produced OLED-phone. The same thing with wide lens.
Why do you think Sammy didn't reveal Pixon12 when Satio (Idou) was announced? Because they wanted to see what SE had to offer before, to eventually fix (**cough** copy **cough**) things that were better in their phone.
Sorry, but this is Samsung. They have always been like that, and will always be. But this isn't necessarily a bad thing, as expensive technologies will be availible cheaper through them, and if they copy the best from everyone, then they'll successfully be able to make "the ultimate device". Although it won't be any innovative at all, it will still be the best device availible. And this is how Samsung works, haven't you noticed it yet? Do you need more proof, because I can easily find more!
let me change something about what i said.
the pixon12 is indeed many times better than the innov8. I took a closer look and saw less noise and detail smearing, although oversharpening (makes it looks like pixelated) is extremely perceptible. Still, it is not as good as the A620. It is definitely far from the 350D (a good lens will further increase the great difference).
Hence, i must say that the pixon12 is pretty impressive as it is indeed catching up to point-and-shoot (not there yet).
Please ignore my previous post.
wow. They compared this phone's picture quality to SLR and point-and-shoot? That's real surprising.
Anyway, of the test they did here, the samsung innov8 was the worst peformer.The pixon12 doesn't really show any significant improvements over innvo8. Whereas the A620 and the 350D totally surpassed the pixon12. Just drop in a 50mm prime lens and the 350D is many strides ahead of the pixon12.
Seriously, what's the point of increasing the pixels on a small sensor when the image quality is not going up siginificantly, and somewhat, it looks worse than the innov8. They should just stick to improving quality instead improving quantity!
[deleted post]They were just saying that because they wanted to see how Nokia fanboys/girls would react to that. I highly doubt they are biased towards anyone. Just read their past reviews on Nokia handsets...egh fanboys these days. Common knowledge seems to be scarce as of late.
I for one think that the image quality is pretty good. I'm no photo fanatic but just by looking at the full images the Samsung PIXON12 seems to hold it's own against the other digital cameras and outshines the INNOV8 hands down. Though, I was hoping for some night shots too GSMarena. My guess is that the xenon flash won't be as strong like the one on SE Satio's or Nokia n82.
I can't wait for the full review. And yes, like someone just said I want to see the Jet's review also. I am really interested in that device. There are themes for it right? I might just join your forums. ^_^
Wow those DSLR photos are great...camera-phones still have a way to go! But Pixon12 pictures are nice...shame there couldn't be a shoot-out between Pixon12, Satio and N86, maybe in the future?
+++, 26 Jun 2009What's the point in treating manufacturers by unstable features. I repeat unstable.
Nokia is ... moreOh yeah ku koo.. nokia needs ppl like u. Do enjoying buying nokia 4ever. :)
btw, One fact for u, nokia is stable,has easy and fast UI, reliable batt, durable, etc. and these are gone with their 8210, 8310 days. I used 6500 slide, N96, N73. All need to go for service center.
Anonymous, 26 Jun 2009Sammy copies too much. First OLED and wide lens from Nokia, and now 12MP from SE. It's startin... moreIf you dont know anything about phones then keep your mouth shut.
Samsung was the first to introduce OLED screens.
Satio was shown off to the public when it was in the begining of developing stage. If samsung didn't show it off early then that does not mean they copied. If you think samsung copied the SE Satio then where is the Satio????????????
HD recording, HD playback, DJ concept these are all pioneered by samsung recently.
Don't look like a fool while commenting :D
I am really disappointed by the cybershot and n86 carl zeiss hyped phones.Only Samsung innov8 could satisfy my expectations,and i think the pixon 12 will be the new benchmark at camera performance again and trash satio.
Anonymous, 26 Jun 2009This is an excellent phone, but way to expensive.
GSMArena team! Where is the iPhone 3GS ... moreThis is an excellent phone, but way to expensive.
GSMArena team! Where is the iPhone 3GS review?
Not even the old Iphone was cheaper. Quality costs, but this isn't the case with either Iphone or Pixon12, where it's the brand (Apple and 12MP) that stands for the unjustifyable price tag.
Sammy copies too much. First OLED and wide lens from Nokia, and now 12MP from SE. It's starting to be irritating. Samsung, please come up with something FIRST.
However, Omnia HD was impressive and unique, but one can require more than just one uniqe phone from the world's second biggest phone manufactuer, right? Seriously, most (99%) of Sammy's models are just copies. Even Beat DJ is a copy of Moto's Aura, kind of.
Except Samsung to come up with something new and revolutionary no earlier than summer 2010, unfortunately. However, Nokia might announce something new and interesting in september, and you have to agree about that they have a little to catch up.
What's the point in treating manufacturers by unstable features. I repeat unstable.
Nokia is still the most customer friendly, customer oriented and conservative (in the positive way. think of it as a normal evolution, instead of skipping important steps)
A brand is a brand, I don't get paid by it, but I've been a happy user and I will continue being one.
This is an excellent phone, but way to expensive.
GSMArena team! Where is the iPhone 3GS review?
I think the Pixon12 is good.. but to challenge the detail resolving current DSLR standard, it's still not there yet... It does win directly out of the camera.. but judging from the point and shoot canon A620 vs pixon, it's possible to spot the weakness.
Check out the area of the mountains / greens behind the building, on the pixon it looks patchy.. where in A620 it blends well and smoothly ..samsung is applying lots of sharpening and high contrast here to make the pic looks wow !.. yeah. it does win in many eyes direct from the camera..
A great way to go ahead this time.
People are already saying this is better than the Satio and vice versa. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. Pixon 12 has AMOLED screen and better video recording. Satio has the symbian OS and a larger screen. Personally, I like a larger screen on my all touch screen phones because I text a lot, and texting on a screen smaller than a 3.5 inch one is a real pain in the butt for me (even in landscape mode) so I think the Satio would be a better phone for me overall. The pixon 12 has ridiculous multimedia functions and features, but the lack of a smart OS (regardless of whether or not people like Symbian) is something that the Satio has it beat at. The ability to install a multitude of programs allows the user to customize the phone whichever way they wish. If they're the same price, then I'd most likely go with the Satio. Bigger screen, comparable camera, and a Symbian OS that's familiar and easily customizable. I don't really care for a ridiculously high-end camera, however, and would much rather go with a better messaging device with an easier to use and more developed OS, like the Palm Pre.