Anonymous, 18 Apr 2010I agree that cameras are not really meant for phones but seriously! HTC is no excuse to this. ... moreok it's true 15 fps is a joke but the company promised to update the device to 720p which means it will be fixed and much better. But what about the samsung galaxy S that doesn't have a flash for the camera!! And this is supposed to be a high end phone as well?? In fact this is suppose to be the best device from samsung. How can you fix that? At least having a solution my friend is better than having nothing. I still don't get it why would samsung not put a flash? What harm will it do? Why not make the fans really happy with this handset? I guess it's the stu*id Korean logic or what ever you want to call it!
I'm looking forward to HTC's Evo. I expected more from this phone. 120mb for apps is seriously not acceptable. And when you exceed 100mb, your phone will always notify you that the disk is low which is seriously annoying. Camera and video is seriously a disaster. I have to say its really ugly and 15fps is just horrible. You cant take out your phone and snap pics when something important happens and you didnt bring your camera. Taking pics with your phone is actually really fun! I never heard of someone using this phone lasting 24hrs without the battery dying. Most of them say max is 6 hours. I really like this phone but the it has some MAJOR drawbacks. I hope the EVO won't disappoint me!
Anonymous, 18 Apr 2010Even my 100 eur camera can capture photos better than your SE(camera phone) Desire is smartph... moreI agree that cameras are not really meant for phones but seriously! HTC is no excuse to this. Their camera is like the worst ever!! And the pinkish spot is still there! And 15ps video recording?! Are they a joking?! This is a high-end for gods sake! No one brings their camera everyday you know. Try comparing desire's taken photos and other phones' photos.
I'm getting a Desire next month... yay :D
[deleted post]Even my 100 eur camera can capture photos better than your SE(camera phone)
Desire is smartphone..And HTC vs SE for smartphones.You cant compare.Thats funny.
Desire is best phone ever made.
When it comes to an 8 mp camera you have it with a led flash while we have it with a cyber shot camera and a xenon flash!
When it comes to a 12mp camera you have it with a java os that will never be updated while we have it with a symbian os that is updated already and will be updated in the future and also have (WVGA) recording vs D1.
When it comes to HD recording you have a brick that cant reach 24 fps and barely reaches 20 fps while we have it with a stunning stylish device called vivaz and also adds auto focus as a cool and useful feature.
Its true you always get it first, however, we get it later but always get it better! We are patient and therefore we get what we deserve. You are not patient and therefore you also get what you deserve. You can live with one candy while we will never accept one and will always wait a while to get 2.
We SE owners are proud to choose SE as our brand because it has it all plus the remarkable looks and designs. You samsung owners on the other hand don't have it all and you are famous for your ugly and non attractive handsets. I'm sorry fellows if my words will hurt some of you and not be in your favor but fact is fact and we can never change it.
go for the desire of wait until the evo?
SE 2010, 18 Apr 2010I don't care if the led flash is good or not good at night. It still gives you the chance to t... morex10 will be upgraded after 5 months from on at that time it wont be like other devices cause by that time android 2.5 will be out and sony will spend more 6 months to port it to x10 so stop talking like u are a big smart guy and take ur crappy x10 out of here just check the benchmark posted in the review and u will know that the desire faster 2 times from the x10 even they have same processer .
I don't care if the led flash is good or not good at night. It still gives you the chance to take a picture in the night or noon time without getting it only black! The thing is that every high end phone should have basic stuff and one of them is the led flash!!
So pls stop giving damn excuses and just admit that samsung were stup*id and didn't do the job well. Be men enough and admit this fact. Go see high end phones their is no single phone that lacks a flash!! The only one that has this problem is the iphone that also lack many other things.
I am not trying to bash samsung, I am just pointing that what they did is totally pathetic! And they should do better, specially with the best device they have got. And if gsmarena want's to cover for them I will not.
Hint : maybe the x10 has an outdated os now, but it will be upgraded one day and be like the rest, but will this device have a software that will create a flash for the device lol doubt it! So with the X10 you can fix the problem but with samsung no I'm sorry you can't.
The beam is a great device, this is a device that is worth to own not the copy/paste iphone galaxy s! God they even copied the no flash feature can you even believe it.
[deleted post]HTC is the best I agree. Samsung is the best in your dreams lool. I can forgive apple for not having a flash for their phone since they are new in the market and no nothing about cellphones! But what is samsung's excuse? The only excuse is that they are pathetic.
And by the way are all you samsung guys outdated or what? Se is gaining profit again. all the experts expected them to gain profit by 2011 but SE did it in the beginning of 2010.
Ok you are going to tell me that samsung has double SE profits, true. But it's from their low-mid phones. Not from their pathetic high end phones with no camera flash!
While SE clearly proved that most of the profit came from high end phones ( satio- vivaz - x2 ) and so on.
Samsung should stick with their low-mid phones because this is their level. But when it comes to true high end phones it's HTC and SE all the way :D
eka, 18 Apr 2010Just another boring htc phones, they all look the same, with same sucky quality of camera. Sam... morehow do you know if samsung S camera is any good? do you have samsung device running Android OS? don't think so. but i have a samsung galaxy from day one of release and i can tell you that 5MP camera is useless as the way they implemented it and the way they coded the camera and the rest drivers.
so from my own experience and if you go to android forums samsung android phones are dissaster as samsung barely provides any support.
so if it happens with samsung S we will see what you'll say when you come back here complaining :)
yeah the missing led flash on the Samsung is a disaster considering the fact, that all the low end phones have one, but still who whould take pictures in the dark with the flash on, when the photos would look crap anyway... all i hope is, that the Galaxy S will be stable enough and won't overheat, then it would be perfect for me.
in the review they said that you only have ~120mb for your apps and games. They also said that with hacking you can install on memory card, but how does this hack work? is it easy to do or?
se x10 looks good on paper but android 1.6 when 2.1 is out and no multi touch ( not even through upgrade) ? no matter how good the camera is thats a deal breaker.
This is what Gsmarena mentiond :
et’s look at a real competitor. The recently unveiled I9000 Galaxy S is Samsung’s most powerful Android smartphone – and quite keen to challenge for the top spot
And this is my reply for them :
ya ya keep dreaming on a real competitor that doesn't even have a flash for the camera! Even Nokias before one century had such a feature! Wake up and stop promoting samsung.
Ahhh... The camera has a lot of room for improvements. I own an n93 and when it comes to picture quality, i think my n93 is still better.
I like the desire a lot compared to SE, but i've read so many negative comments on the new SE phones that it overshadows their camera capabilities..
Just another boring htc phones, they all look the same, with same sucky quality of camera. Samsung Galaxy S much better than this.
Just got my HTC Desire 2 days ago from Expansys. Only telstra sells it in Australia and not until end of April.On top of it its branded with software and has telstra writin HTC sense is really good yo use. It's user freindly and looks really good.The internet side of the phone is fantastic.Emails and web browser works like a charm. Touch screen is iphone quality.Camera and video is bad but for someone like me who doesn't give a crap about that, its not a problem. HTC will bring an update to fix it. Battery life is as expected. If it manges to go throw the day, thats all i need. I used iphone and samsung i8910 hd. samsung had excellent camera and screen but it was symbian ( on touch screen phones its a dissaster . both of the phones i had to charge every day.Samsung hd had a good camera but seriously, after a week you get over the camera.So far I'm loving the phone, only problem is I need a bigger data plan :)