Damian Dinning, 20 May 2010Hi, I have nothing to hide. Re-fixed battery, should you need to re-start the device there ... moreThanks Damian .. that issue was bugging me as well.. cos i use the N95 and when it hung the only work around that i knew was removing battery
Damian Dinning, 31 May 2010Re your various questions relating to reliability. The Nokia N8 had to pass the same tests ... moreSir, Is it possible to bring Time lapse video recording or Slowmotion video recording to N8 via 3rd party applications..?
Many questions have been answered, but I have yet another one. Will the autofocus red light in N8 still be turned on during video recording like it happens with the N82? I found this really annoying and makes me feel that I don't really have the full control over the device. Couldn't you just put an option in the settings to turn off the red light during video recording, or at least radically decrease its brightness? Or make patch for locations, where videorecording without red light is not forbidden?
Samarth INNOV8 User, 29 May 2010@ Damian:
Sir, kindly answer my last set of queries...
I posted it few posts back, and you... moreRe your various questions relating to reliability.
The Nokia N8 had to pass the same tests we apply to all our handsets which cover all of those areas of concern you raised.
This will be my first Nokia ever. I've had SonyEricsson's, a Samsung, and HTC's, but they all had something lacking - mostly with sound or camera. I was going to get the EVO (despite what HTC says now, i don't believe for one second they're gonna miss out on an opportunity to sell ****loads of EVOs in Europe too), but after the first reviews, i believe it's not as good as we all thought it was. After i summed everything up, N8 seems to be the best phone now, provided it does what it does at a satisfying level. Hopefully the sound quality is good. So, tehere you have it Nokia, after being a hater for about 10-12 years, i finally caved in and will buy a Nokia. My friends will have a field day with this. Hope you're proud of yourselves!
P.S. what's the artist/song in the N8 videos? Sounds like Royksopp. It's catchy as hell, stuck in my head for days.
Sir, kindly answer my last set of queries...
I posted it few posts back, and you can answer subjectively...
Anonymous, 25 May 2010I totally sympathize with the situation and see the need for balancing the design and not maki... morei'm actually surprised that Nokia are this prudish about the design.
i think Nokia are at their best when they stick 2 fingers up to every other manufacturer and market speculator and release stuff like the 7380 or the 7390's of this world.
i look at the weirdness of the Japanese market and i melt with jealousy at the bizarre design fetish they have.
and here we have people wishing for a curved back or a flatback or how thick the phone is... whatever... zzzz...
Anonymous, 25 May 2010hi damian,
there is no video light like the n86.
how r we going to take video in complete da... morei often wonder what the best way to light complete darkness is.
when videoing complete darkness i find it helps to turn on a light, or wait for the sun to come up.
Anonymous, 27 May 2010I still don't understand why this conservative styling on almost all Nokia phones. If you have... moreThough I like the design but I really wish to see curved back on Nokia's phone like vivaz. If you see New Nokia X2 also have curved back, so I think Nokia will soon introduce it on their other models also..
I still don't understand why this conservative styling on almost all Nokia phones. If you have a look at for example SE phones or even Apple (let's face it - there products do look good) then Nokia phones really look, well plain to put it mildly. For example, car designers have long ago realised that curves are much more pleasing to the eye than straight lines with sharp edges. Even N8 which is latest product from Nokia looks somewhat like a brick (with that top and bottom flat surface with sharp edges). Maybe Nokia should hire some young and progressive designers before it is too late, especially in this day and age. Just my thought on the matter.
A big kudos to you Damian and all the other guys at Nokia, developing such fantastic devices. Also I appreciate the time you have taken to discuss and explain the decisions on the N8 design. This is an outstanding phone, I was always peeved at not being able to get the N82 before it got phazed out of production, but now I am definitely getting the N8. It's a great thing that Nokia hasn't given up on Xenon in their phones. As a photography enthusiast, I really really am thankful for this.
Damian Dinning, 25 May 2010My advice would be to wait until you can evaluate the performance for yourself. atbthank you for all your prompt replies :) i am so fascinated with the n8,i am getting it regardless of whatever the hardware is.i loved n82 for its sheer brilliant camera and i do believe n8 will take my levels of pleasure to new heights..i am from India and desperately waiting for it
satan, 25 May 2010i appreciate your response on the lens cover issue.i am sure that the n8 will be a benchmark i... moreMy advice would be to wait until you can evaluate the performance for yourself.
Damian Dinning, 25 May 20103rd and final part... Yes the N8 has a good camera and I really hope you'll be really happy... morei appreciate your response on the lens cover issue.i am sure that the n8 will be a benchmark in mobile camera sector..however you did not respond to the hardware part of n8 that is the RAM and Clockspeed...as described,it has 256mb ram and 680mhz processor...in the era of 512mb ram and 1ghz processors,why is this configuration implemented to n8? awaiting your reply
Damian Dinning, 25 May 20103rd and final part...
Yes the N8 has a good camera and I really hope you'll be really happy... moreooops, sorry about the double use of camera and having to split my [long] reply to find the word that was causing the spam filter to chime in...
satan, 25 May 2010i agree....a world class phone like n82 has a lens cover and just a few mm wont be considered ... more3rd and final part...
Yes the N8 has a good camera and I really hope you'll be really happy with the efforts we have made in this area. However, the N8 is not just about the camera camera. It's about so many other things too, hence why I have a number of times referenced balancing multiple aspects to create a great all-round product rather one that focuses on just one area.
satan, 25 May 2010i agree....a world class phone like n82 has a lens cover and just a few mm wont be considered ... more2nd part...
Of course there were other ways. 1. Make the product thicker, not seen as desirable as that would have meant 4-5mm being added to the product to create a flush looking camera (in the case of integrated lens cover).
2. Reduce the height of the camera. This is probably the most widely used means of reducing the thickness around the camera. The result? That depends on the time frame. The key is not to drive down the height of the camera faster than the technology can keep pace with otherwise you end up with image/video quality going backwards rather than forwards. I already commented in the interview with why we prioritised larger optics over variable aperture as one example of this. I’ll save you asking the next question; Are our lens designs competitive? I believe so and therefore confident in saying that based on the discussions we have with our optics and sensor partners along with Carl Zeiss we are really pushing hard the boundaries of optical design here.
3rd part coming...
satan, 25 May 2010i agree....a world class phone like n82 has a lens cover and just a few mm wont be considered ... moreI understand your point of view re the camera cover based on your experience of the N82 (a product I am very familiar with). However I'd like to explain a little more here.
The way all the components stack up (literally) in the case of products like the N82 is completely different to the way such elements are stacking up in more recent large display products such as the N8. With the N82, the footprint of the device is driven almost entirely by the display and the keymat. Width is driven by the width of the display and the length is driven by the earpiece, length of display and area needed for the keymat. Actually I tell a small lie because we intentionally made the N82 slightly wider to accommodate the slightly sloping sides which made it feel more comfortable in the hand.
The area under this resulting footprint we then filled with all of the other components that went in to creating the Nokia N82. This resulted in a thickness of around 18mm over the battery. This allowed us to match that thickness with the camera and an integrated lens cover. The camera is therefore more or less flush with the rest of the product.
With the N8 the internal configuration is completely different. The footprint is now larger. Which is great from the perspective of being able to reduce the thickness of the product as you don't need to stack components in the way you do with many products such as the N82. However, in the case of the camera it's the tallest component. So you end up with a thickness difference between the main section of the product and the localised area around the camera. So if anything were to be added to this they'll be a resulting large step between the camera area and the rest of the device. It doesn’t look as good and in our experience product design is an important factor and that's an area our design team insisted (and rightly so) to still create a great looking product despite these challenges. But we have to draw a line somewhere and in that case it meant Dual LED and integrated lens covers could not be included. Furthermore, as per the interview these comments relate to, you will have read my other reasons why the lens cover is designed in the way that it is.
Will continue in 2nd post...
Having spam issues posting further replies. Will try and respond later to some further questions.
Anonymous, 25 May 2010I totally sympathize with the situation and see the need for balancing the design and not maki... morei agree....a world class phone like n82 has a lens cover and just a few mm wont be considered as bulky.i mean n8 is supposed to be a high end camera phone and by all means i love the nokia camera qualities than any other,i had a glorious 2 years with my n82 and even so now and n8 is the perfect replacement for my n82.but please consider peoplr like us who swear by the likes of n82 and now the n8...regardless of scratch resistant or not,a camera lens is appreciated.
also i would love to know why is the ram and processor speed so low.is it for cutting costs or does symbian need just the above specs to run smoothly? this is an honest question and no sarcasm intended.i just want a satisfactory answer from you so that my purchase of the n8 would be a happy one...