Techi, 04 Jul 2010Yea Stephane its along way ahead for SE to catch up the competition.
It is so funny people ... moreI like your message Techi. Not from an Apple fan or Apple hater. Just from a guy which want a very good high-end device. Sure few people can prefer Nokia N8 or HTC Desire or SE X10... but say "iPhone 4 is shit" is just stupid and about all people which buy it too !!!
I don't know an app "flash" for iPhone ?! You know the name of the app?
Yes, I'm very angry about iTunes, about stupid limitations (bluetooth, flashplayer, no ringchange(SMS now call is ok)....) but really why many people says "When you use an iPhone you don't want back for an other"... That's really impressive proof.
I will keep an eyes about SonyEricsson future with a big hope of nice models in the future (WinMo7, Symbian^3^4^5)but I will take the white version of iPhone4 which will be my first Apple product in my life.
That's a good things do not change every time OS. (example, I've a Satio(symbian) if I take a X10 that's Androïd and after a WinMo7 device..) because you must every time take your new app and learn again all the OS....
Finally, about photo/video, many iPhone4 test says this is very good even not "the best". Good performance :-) Yes, iPhone 4 has a crazy price but if people like and BUY iPhone, why Apple will down the price...
Stephane(Swiss), 03 Jul 2010Again, Techi. I'm agree with you. But I don't like HTC because your reason + bad design and pl... moreYea Stephane its along way ahead for SE to catch up the competition.
It is so funny people talk about Iphone4 is not up to the par with other phone,they will never realize it until and unless they will use the iphone4 for a month, I have used Galaxy S and trust me its just like any other android phone and nothing more than that, and again people talk about flash when almost every phone is having Flash lite 3.1 which is of no use.
There will be a proper flash app there soon for apple, when cloud browse app will come out in a premium version.
I have done the benchmarks, Apple iphone4 CPU and GPU is the most powerful and we will be seeing some serious graphical games and apps in future with accelerometer and gyroscope.
You know, now after testing so many phones I realized Nokia, LG, SE high end phones are getting out of competition, they are just like any other android and windows phone in the market, still Nokia phones touch screen is poor. I am not a fan boy of Iphone but love it or hate it, Iphone4 is the best device in the market time and tested it coz what it does, it does the best which you cant compare.
TK, 03 Jul 2010umm ha ha..
its own display technology?
its own chipset?
any company ca... moreYou say the iphone4 has its own chipset and display technology. How wrong you are. It's chipset and GPU are made by Samsung. The GPU is the same chip as in the samsung except it is samsung's lower moderl.
The display is made by LG (and costs a mere $28 - cheaper than the more expensive and advanced s-amoled screens). There is nothing technologically advanced about IPS screens which is old backlit LCD technology.
Android is leading the way in technological advancements through both its software and the hardware manufacturers. Iphone4 is already behind , yet we're stuck with it for 12 months.. whilst android surges ahead.
[deleted post]I thought American corporate is the one very good at FUD (microsoft, General Mobile, Chevrolete)?
Our new engine is very highly efficient compare to others - GM/chevy. while in reality all japanese/korean/european car engine were already have a direct injection, and the american company were doing what apple did. renaming a technology and claiming to be the best!!
TK, 03 Jul 2010umm ha ha..
its own display technology?
its own chipset?
any company ca... more>>>>unique design
Check out a Nokia N810. There is nothing unique about the iPhone 4 design.
>>>>its own display technology?
That display technology was actually developed by LG and those displays are also manufactured by LG. That applies for all 4 iPhones released so far.
>>>>>its own chipset?
That A4 chip was originally by Samsung and Intrinsity in a joint collaboration. Apple got access to the technology by buying out Intrinsity. Apple only customized a few minor things that are not related to the CPU and GPU. The chip itself is mass manufactured by Samsung.
>>>>any company can make samsung-like devices...any company... juz put android OS and outsource some hardware boom u got . new galaxy S . it...
Almost all the hardware in Galaxy S is developed and manufactured by Samsung. On the other hand almost all the major hardware in iPhone is also developed/manufactured by Samsung and LG. So you were saying...?
Techi, 03 Jul 2010Thanks Stephane, I have used SE phones, they are ok but SE is just like LG and other company's... moreAgain, Techi. I'm agree with you. But I don't like HTC because your reason + bad design and plastic !
Finally after Philips, Nokia, SE devices (now Satio) I will enter in the iPhone world with iPhone 4 (white => from mid-july). Waiting for a high-end model from the Japanese/European company SonyEricsson but I think ...
when I will begin to use iPhone I will never another and back... Like many customers !
Sure hope SE can make a great WinMo7 or Symbian^3,^4 devices(really I'm not Androîd fan) but probably to late for me.
I can see on the net photo+video are really good now on IPhone 4 (thanks LED). Not the best but GOOD! Enough !
Sure, answer from S.Jobs about problems are just STUPID and incredible but I hope a update will coming soon.
markuk99, 02 Jul 2010The Samsung Galaxy S blows the iphone4 out of the water. Here is why..
Both phones are very... moreumm ha ha..
its own display technology?
its own chipset?
any company can make samsung-like devices...any company... juz put android OS and outsource some hardware boom u got . new galaxy S . it...
thats how i see all the companies are working these days...
serioulsly want to bet all the phones will offer front camera like a big huge campaign?
u will even see serious video editing .. in new phone ...
i only see two potential players balckberry i/ iphone becuz they use their own original design + technology
Techi, 03 Jul 2010Thanks Stephane, I have used SE phones, they are ok but SE is just like LG and other company's... moreSorry, I have Htc Desire and I love it :]
Nokia handsets are shit pieces, but HTC is the best
Thank you GSM Arena.
For not just your usual excellent, in-depth review.
But also for not conveniently applying the iSheep filter by making plain the issues iPhone 4 suffers.
Be they new or existing.
Articulating whether they be hardware, software, or business model related.
As a Nokia owner since 1999 with 6110.
To my current E72, which I bought instead of the Blackberry Bold 9700 thanks to your typically thorough reviews.
I was interested in giving up my Qwerty Or Bust keyboard approach for iPhone 4.
Your review confirms my concerns, and more.
iPhone 4 is unacceptable for me.
Even more so when you consider its price.
My thanks to the GSM Arena team for your extensive selection of comprehensive reviews here.
And for not losing focus of the primary role of function of a mobile handset.
Let alone a smartphone in today's very competitive market.
No doubt the iPhone 4 is one of the best phones out there. It is so beautiful that I have to pull it out of my pocket pratically every five minutes just to look at it. Lol. And the antenna issue is only an issue when you make an issue. I am on the same boat as the reviewer here. NO DROP CALLS! Occassionaly the bars would drop but thats it. For all you haters out there please check out the iPhone 4 first before saying anything. There are no doubt about having other great phones out there but...but..man...you just have to check out the iPhone 4 in person. I can gurantee you that this phone is more than just looks.
Stephane(Swiss), 03 Jul 2010Great message Techi!Yes what say all my iPhone fan friends... One says "I dislike this ar... moreThanks Stephane, I have used SE phones, they are ok but SE is just like LG and other company's,
You know the closest that comes to iphone are HTC phones used it, time and tested it but there is a gap between them and Iphone for an example I was using this latest high end HTC phone for while on papers its camera look good but actual use both the video and capture image quality was bad and laggy, you will understand my point when you actually use a high end HTC, Nokia or any other brand phone for a month and the after that use iphone for month specially iphone4, you will find out that why iphone4 is better.
Actually in USA $199 with a contract for iphone 4 is not bad at all.
Wow. This article pretty much dodged the reality of the Antenna.
In one paragraph you say you didnt get any dropped calls because of it . Then the next paragraph you say you could consistently recreate the dropped calls in spotty cover areas.
Even in spotty 3G coverage areas, you SHOULD NOT BE DROPPED CALLS. Every country I've been to, phones quietly hand off to a GSM/EDGE signal instead when on the edge of the 3G footprint.
What a ridiculous design, going from 3G to no service, BANG.
Techi, 03 Jul 2010I put my last comment when the phone was launched and I was right. I am not an Apple fan boy I... moreGreat message Techi!Yes what say all my iPhone fan friends... One says "I dislike this arrogant company but iPhone is the easiest, more beautiful device I know. N96, i8910 was a nightmare to use"
Yes, I've a SE Satio and use sometimes iphone of friends. Ok iTunes has so many limitations. Stupid. (no ring changes by example), but much apps. And great Google Maps, navigation so usefull.
For my Androïd is really less easy to use. Maybe WinMo7 could be interesting.
In Europe the company I prefer is SonyEricsson. But which device is high-end now ? NOTHING ! X10, Satio , Vivaz are completely outdated, no update or so late.... What's the problem with SE ???
What can I say... Apple's products are not perfect but they have many fans that are ridiculously obsessed by them.
This device is not bad, but is too expensive for what is has to offer.
With the same money you can buy many smart phones that makes iphone a bad option.
If you are happy I am happy with it, but please do not be too excessive with it.
Is it so hard to give more info about GPS chip, not only for this phone ...? :( This is not an insult, just a note that this information would be useful because it strongly relates to signal reception.
I put my last comment when the phone was launched and I was right. I am not an Apple fan boy I am just a normal person who have seen and tested the technology.
I am a tech geek used high end phones of Nokia, Samsung, Htc etc, I realized one thing apple iphone are actually the best smart phones in the market today.
i knew it before the 5 mp camera will be the best in its class and 720p recording is top notch with no lag and high quality image.
Face time works well and actually now people will start using video calling coz apple introduced it and made it so easy to use and i am sure it will become popular now.
1 ghz processor with sgx graphics GPU, u are actually talking about a serious high end hardware, its just like having a computer with a high end graphic card, lots of other 1 ghz phones in the market are lacking good GPU.
Screen is like you have the best multimedia device, screen has a wow factor.
Another point you have actually # 1 App store, seen it and i firmly believe, it is #1
Multi tasking has started and i am sure it will improve in future, for multitasking is actually acceptable.
Well there are so many things, but actually its a very nice piece of hardware, you will never get bored with it and actually truly speaking I got bored with other phone but not with iphone.
Lastly Just wanna say, I am using I phone 4 right now, time and tested all other smart phones also, and just wanna say one thing, Apple wont do everything but what Apple does it does the best and you cant compare it that is why they sell 1.7 million phones in 3 days, yea the price is high but with contract its acceptable. Just a normal opinion.
The Samsung Galaxy S blows the iphone4 out of the water. Here is why..
Both phones are very very similar, in that they have an excellent one-touch user interface that just works intuitvely and seamlessly. Anything you load just pops up amost instantly and smoothly. A far cry from symbian and windows-mobile phones that were slow, clunky, froze a lot, crashed a lot, and had complicated menu structures and poor access to apps.
There are some differences though.......
Comparing the iPhone4 with the Galaxy S:
the iphone4 costs significantly more to buy on contract
the iphone4 doesnt have removable flashdisk cards or a micro USB port
the iphone4 has a significantly smaller screen, despite the phone being a similar size
the iphone4 lacks the more visually wonderful super-amoled screen for the wow factor
the iphone4 has a poorer viewing angle
the iphone4 has a slower browser, and is slower at loading pages
the iphone4 is slower at loading apps, with a fractionally slower interface
the iphone4 lacks the more sophisticated multitasking of the Galaxy S
the iphone4 has a slower processor, and a slowr graphics core (GPU) (the Galaxy S has the fastest of any phone in the world currently)
the iphone4 lacks flash when browsing websites
the iphone4 has a lower quality front facing camera, which can only video call over wireless (unlike the Galaxy S which can use 3G too)
the iphone4 can not play in widescreen without the letterbox. (the Galaxy S screen is 16:9 widescreen)
the iphone4 has less free apps available in its app store
the iphone4 lacks support of divx, xVid, HD divx, avi, wmc, vc-1, mkv, flv etc, meaning you have to convert movies on your pc before playing them
the iphone4 lacks wireless dlna HDMI out and hence cannot output HD content to a TV
the iphone4 lacks bluetooth 3.0 support
the iphone4 lacks ability to play HQ youtube over 3G, unlike android
the iphone4 lacks live multitasking widgets on the homescreens such as twitter, facebook status updates, sky news tickers, live world cup scores etc
the iphone4 lacks i-tunes wireless syncing of music, podcasts, and playlists (yes, android can do this!)
the iphone4 lacks the ability to be a wifi hotspot (phone becomes a 3G wireless router)
the iphone4 lacks the advanced and seamless cloud syncing of android
the iphone4 lacks the over-the-air updates of android
the iphone4 lacks free emulator apps that run all games from gameboy, snes, PSP etc brilliantly
the iphone4 lacks free google sat nav with voice and cloud search (eg speak "navigate to MacDonalds" and within 3 seconds ur phone has interpreted what you said, loaded up the sat nav, fetched GPS, and is giving u directions)
the iphone4 still lacks the seamless and advanced social networking integration of android
the iphone4 still lacks the superior notification system of android (no inturrupting popups on android)
the iphone4 lacks the massive customisibility of android that allows ones phone to reflect ones needs and lifestyle, from homescreens, down to apps that give you a different keyboard or messeging app
the iphone4 lacks free HD porn apps or free music apps that allow you to download or stream all the latest top40 music songs free!
the iphone4 lacks the exclusivity of the galaxy S - the iphone is the common and simple mans phone, everyone has one
the iphone4 has an LED flash (deffinately a deal breaker for some)(although some argue a wide apeture lense with night mode is better than a single led flash)
the iphone4 *currently* has more availability of high calibre PSP style games compared to android (altho this is partly levelled out by lack of any emulators)
note. I've left of the iphone4's higher pixel density because it is only something distinguishablee if you use your phone 1cm away from your face.
Samsung is like a joke in M-Phone World. I don't buy an Apple because it's so expensive. but if i had 2 choices, I suggest to pay lots of money on Apple, than paying money to buy a JOKE!!
Anonymous, 02 Jul 2010A tiny 3.5 inch screen on a new full touch flagship device in 2010?! God lord... The more i re... morebecause of the user intuitive os...android is big for the techies ..but iOS is good for basically anyone...for gods sake 70 year olds are buying iphones, but i dont see them buying android phones....