I'll stick with my 3GS. There still isn't a phone out there that makes me want to upgrade.
The Galaxy S still looks like the best smartphone out there.
Any chance to get some real Battery tests especially against other phones?
Doc, your arguments are becoming tiresome now and I have better things to do on a Friday night.
Three things I feel the need to mention first though.
Firstly, this is a Nokia N8 thread so it should go without saying that you are bound to bump into the odd Nokia or Symbian fan here. It is a bit like going to a Metallica concert and moaning about all the metal heads present. Not sure what the Justin Beiber fans are doing here though.
Secondly, I have repeatedly stated that I do not yet own the N8 so I am here reading up about the phone while deciding if it is the phone for me. I am not trying to convince myself that I made the right purchase. The same cannot be said for the iPhone and Samsung owners in this thread.
Thirdly, and related to the second point, I am unable to provide you with direct comparisons of the apps available on Symbian^3 as it has just been released and I do not have the phone yet. Honestly if the difference all boils down to flashiness then it is really neither here nor there for me. You may feel it is a necessity but I would rather have added functionality (USB on the go, HDMI, output, FM transmitter etc etc etc). This is an area I am not a huge expert on but Nokia is now encouraging development on the QT platform which by all accounts makes developing for a large array of phones much simpler. The future may not be all doom and gloom for the N8 as you are insinuating.
Have a wonderful evening.
Doc Shahkar, 15 Oct 2010Ok dude , keep doing this " Nokia can do what other iOS and Androids can Do " Song .... morehey u own iphone rite? not everone like to hv pulse app or whatever u mentioned..there r different kind of users as well..dont expect everyone to be like u as users..give respect to others..by bashing nokia u wont be able to prove anything..n simple if u r not interested no need to buy ..
Clint, 15 Oct 2010Do any of those many friends of yours have Symbian^3 phones? None of mine do, as it has not be... moreOk dude , keep doing this " Nokia can do what other iOS and Androids can Do " Song .
And for ur info , Presenting something elegantly like Pulse or Awesome Notes does and reading plain thing means alot to people and users . U call it Flashy , But for us its an experience . Having pics videos along with the topic and seemless fluidity is 1000 % superior to ur so called Non Flashy argument .
And about ur comparisons , Lol ,, just would say that wait for Hi profile websites comparing ur Nokia vs iOS and Androids . Cuz 1 person may be wrong , not the majority .
And from Functionality and Flashiness check this every 1 and compare it anything on Nokia and Clint comments
this is called Awesome notes utilizing Elegant iOS API and the fluidity of it . I would request " MY ULTRA NOKIA LOVER FRIEND CLINT " to present something on Nokia that Beats it . Just a very Minor example of Functionality on iOS and Android 2.2 Just so so so superior to Nokia and its OS .
I want Nokia to change for Good , but if it cant and continue to bring down graded product into the market , then what can we say except feeling sorry for it !!
Doc Shahkar, 15 Oct 2010For a change , NOKIA lovers , lemme tell u this , that i was a Die hard symbian fan . But now ... moreDo any of those many friends of yours have Symbian^3 phones? None of mine do, as it has not bee released here yet, so it would prove to be a fruitless comparison.
I have done numerous comparisons between my old S60V3 device and newer Blackberries and iPhones. Usually this is after one of the owners of these phones insists on showing me this exceptional "new" feature on their phone. I then feel obligated to show them the same feature on my phone. Of course theirs may be pretty and more flash but again, for me, it boils down to having the functionality rather than how pretty it looks in doing what you want.
Let's not even bother factoring price of the phone into this discussion....
And I always find it interesting how people feel it will add more weight to their argument if they start of by expressing their previous undying love for Symbian ha ha
For a change , NOKIA lovers , lemme tell u this , that i was a Die hard symbian fan . But now , NO MORE .
Lemme be logical here . Take latest Nokia cell of one of ur friend in ur 1 hand and take iPhone 4 or Any Android 2.2 ( Galaxy S or Droid X ) in other hand and then compare it . You will get to know . U would't even wanna hang out with NOKIA any more as its STONE AGE STUFF compared to the other two . Just compare urself as NOKIA people who praise NOKIA never ever had an iPhone 4 or Android experience !!
Anonymous, 15 Oct 2010"They accidentally dropped it and it smashed. Absolutely ridiculous! I have dropped my N8... moreUm, clearly I assumed too much of some of the readers of GSM Arena. I thought it would not be necessary to state that I was referring to the importance of the durability of a phone rather than a comparison of screen sizes. I'll remember in future to underestimate the intelligence of those I am chatting to.
Let's chat about phones with similar screen sizes then shall we? By all accounts the N8 is extremely hard wearing a durable. I have not owned one for two years so I can't comment with 100% accuracy but I would assume that the aluminium cover and plastic end pieces would mean it is far less likely that a drop will result in a smashed screen.
Clint, 15 Oct 2010Ha ha ha. So you have never dropped a phone. It has never fallen out of your pocket while pull... more"They accidentally dropped it and it smashed. Absolutely ridiculous! I have dropped my N82, or it has fallen on the floor, many many times and the worst it has is a large scratch on the one corner"
And you comparing your little screen N82 to iphone? for me that's ridiculous
of course it takes hits better, i know many who also dropped iphone and it didn't broke it's all about how it hit the floor or ground.
of course if the whole phone is display it has a lot potential to crash compared to little screened phone.
Oh, and by the way, from my quick introduction to it, Pulse does not really impress me that much. It merely provides content you can get on any other phone in a glossier and prettier format. I'm sorry but glossy and pretty are far less important to me than actually just getting the news and information I seek.
The only purpose of glossy and pretty is to show off to your peers.... which does after all appear to be the main purpose of an iPhone.
Ha ha ha. So you have never dropped a phone. It has never fallen out of your pocket while pulling out your keys or wallet? It has not slipped out of your hands when carrying groceries, work files, keys etc etc? It has not been bumped off the table when out with mates?
Yip, I can see now how our phone needs differ substantially. As you would have noted if you read earlier, my friend was not playing cricket with their iPhone. They accidentally dropped it and it smashed. Absolutely ridiculous! I have dropped my N82, or it has fallen on the floor, many many times and the worst it has is a large scratch on the one corner. No doubt if that was an iPhone it would have been fatal. Sorry but that is pathetic!
Anonymous, 15 Oct 2010As has been pointed out so many times, Symbian needs a LOT less resources and N8 has an awesom... morebefore the "All the nokia fans keep saying that same thing, it doesnt need more power" was borrowed lines
Sails, 15 Oct 2010Actually N8 is not the flagship, it will be N9 once it is out.
As has been pointed out so ... moreAs has been pointed out so many times, Symbian needs a LOT less resources and N8 has an awesome graphics chip. Besides, smartphones are more temperature limited anyway, maybe you want to do a search on how often Galaxy actually runs full 1GHz speed?
All the nokia fans keep saying that same thing, it doesnt need more power
So how you want to comment this? www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAPzvcQMmz4
look at 6:00 same website both have flash on, i think N8 needs a alot more power!
Nokia guys giving so much credit for flash content, but what you do with the flash if phone cannot handle it? even the 1ghz phones with 512mb cant handle it always.
you can see same very poor browser performance from engadget N8 video, and many from youtube.
Clint, 15 Oct 2010"iPhone is the best in the business when it comes to the BUILD QUALITY"
You clear... moreI guess , u dont read the review about the phones from authentic websites as Engadget , GSM arena and other .
iPhone 4 camera is tout as the best camera that u can have , which now goes to Nokia ( Happy to see that ) .
And Build Quality means , sexiness of and aesthetics of iPhone 4 . If U intend to use ur phone by throwing , then its ur problem as Phone is not to play cricket or Football with .
And as far as Explanation to Android comes , U r i guess sleeping about its power and the way its gaining the momentum .. So read online, research and u will get to know . For now u just go on youtube and search for pulse on iphone 4 .
Lolz , Wont say anything cuz every 1 here would not feel so good about ur info , anyways , take a sneak peak at the link below and compare it to anything on Nokia . This is just a very minor example
Doc Shahkar, 15 Oct 2010Good luck then in SA .
I guess u guys then buy everything b4 knowing about that .
As far... moreSo you never did actually bother answering whether the average man on the street is even aware of what processor is in their phone. The answer I expected I suppose.
Bottom line is that, besides a few of us who study the ins and outs of any phone we consider, most people have no idea about the processor or RAM in their phone. Further to this even if they did they would probably have no idea whether 680Mhz is good or not.
Of course it does allow a salesman looking for a sale the opportunity to merely rattle off these numbers and fool the ill-informed into thinking that one phone is far superior to another based just on these numbers alone. In fact we seem to have quite a few of those types on here.
Why just a MONO speaker on the highest end device, Nokia? Deal breaker -.-
Doc Shahkar, 15 Oct 2010Here is Ur Answer My " MOST INTELLECTUAL CRITIC "
I did't have iPhone 4 and Samsu... more"iPhone is the best in the business when it comes to the BUILD QUALITY"
You clearly missed my post a little later as we cannot say the same for the iPhone's build durability.
And I am not even going to bother commenting on the reference to it being the best in the business when it comes to the camera.
None of those things you mentioned there give me any proof as to why you feel Nokia is on their knees. We clearly have different needs when it comes to a phone so clearly you cannot speak for everyone.
"And i Like Android cuz of The Amazing customization , hacking , increasing developer data Base , amazing google services and a very very Good Support all over ."
With more due respect, as we seem to be handing out a lot of respect here, you have typed a lot of words but you have not really said anything here. You just threw in a whole stack of adjectives to make something pretty mundane sound exciting.
Clint, 15 Oct 2010"I respect ur comments but at the same time wondering if u r a NOKIA guy working for ther... moreGood luck then in SA .
I guess u guys then buy everything b4 knowing about that .
As far as am concerned , i dont belong from a country like that .
Hope u got ur answer .
A Common man wont go to the extent to have used Android 2.2 and u give him NOKIA N8 and he says that wow , i gonna dump my ANDROID 2.2 or iPHONE 4 for this Handset .
If Nokia is Good , Then Lets see , make it Happen .
Clint, 15 Oct 2010"More than happy with my iPhone 4 and Samsung Galaxy S now"
So you needed to repl... moreHere is Ur Answer My " MOST INTELLECTUAL CRITIC "
I did't have iPhone 4 and Samsung galaxy S for Balancing what i lost For Nokia cuz i gave up nokia long ago .iPhone is the best in the business when it comes to the BUILD QUALITY , Camera , Insane Resolution ( I read My Medical books on it and Its the most important thing for a Doctor to have a Decision to go with iPhone 4 along with other ) amazing resale value , and Top notch Apps ( Apps are always updated and have very Elegant and of very high quality as developers are getting the money and profit ). Example = Awesome Notes or Pulse on iPhone 4 (Pulse is also on Android ) and compare it to anything that u see on Nokia , U got ur answer .Nokia is on its Knees here .
And i Like Android cuz of The Amazing customization , hacking , increasing developer data Base , amazing google services and a very very Good Support all over . Super Amoled screen is Simply amazing although I still prefer iPhone 4 for insane high resolution as text websites and pics look amazingly insane on it , but super Amoled makes movie watching so much fun .
As i said earlier , if Nokia tops the features of iPhone 4 and Galaxy S , I will be more than Happy to Replace my Phones as Npo Technology remain the same for ever, there will be advancements and as I and Zillion other people see , iOS and Android are beating Nokia like anything . So hope that ur BELOVED NOKIA IMPROVES .