I'm very amused at this fuss over 25fps / 30fps video. The likely reason why the n8 adopted 25fps videos is for exact compatibility with the 25fps standard for PAL - and of course, PAL is the video standard in parts of Asia and Europe (where, as we know, Nokia is from). It has nothing to do with the actual ability of the hardware.
I'd attribute our obsession with 30fps (along with the obsession with iPhones and Blackberrys), at least in part, to the fact that we all read way too many dumb American tech sites (Engadget, Gizmodo etc) and take their reviews way too seriously. They live in their own little bubble and have little or no idea about how things are panning out elsewhere in the world.
We've got brains of our own. We've got our own standards.
25fps is awesome, and in many ways I prefer this cinema-like frame-rate.
samsung wave,milestone x10...these r the worthy competitors os n8!!
i knew this would happen...cuz from the begining nokia were always towards the camera of N8...but what about the OS,what about the speed....even now nokia is releasing updates for the camera...OH COME ON NOKIA.....improve the speed and performance...cuz it lags like hellll!!but even if the updates comes for speed and performance...there will no such groundbreaking results...becuz of low cpu nd ram....nd yeah the main disadvantage of nokia is as days goes by the phone slows nd slows nd slows.in todays days every manufacturer is going for higher processors nd ram nd sp a good OS....nd the outdated symbian OS(don't know why the nokia isn't making MAEMO the mainstream OS for all its devices)...there is hardly any difference between my previous SE SATIO nd N8...its the damn same thing...nd it will be unnecessary to spend money on this device only for the CAM!!!...there r better devices out there ffaaarr better than N8
1)iphone4...awesome build,excellent cam,lightning fast speeds ,gorgeous display,tons of apps to choose frm,APPLE iOS, facetime(actually it works great)..JAILBREAK....ETC ETC
2)galaxy S....again the build is not that nice,camera is good but the flash could have made it perfect,it is fast(bt not as fast as iphone 4), SUPER AMOLED display,great apps but the store is not as huge as apple app store but 100 times better than OVI store,android OS..ETC ETC
Stuntman, 13 Oct 2010The new browser and Swype is on the way. I think that for the purposes of this review, they o... moreInteresting as I am in the market to by a new top end smartphone and I am looking at getting an N8 and none of those mentioned by yourself.
I also find it interesting how people feel the need to perfectly box phones into specific genres (business phone, multimedia phone, smartphone blah blah blah) yet in my view these lines are extremely blurred nowadays. I would find it interesting to have a long discussion about the supposed differences between these phones. In my view a "multimedia" phone like the N8 can usually perform all the functions of a "business" phone anyway.
And why would it not be accurate of GSM Arena to compare the N8 to those phones mentioned? What exactly is it that they can do that the N8 can't? An "easier to use, less complex UI and a large app store"... is that the definition of a smartphone nowadays?
GSM Arena was perfectly accurate in asking whether there is in fact any phone that can be called the best at the moment. The market is too diverse.
dude, 13 Oct 2010Nokia phones are something like cigarettes for its fans/users nowadays. We want to get rid of ... moreDude:
Very interesting analogy. I know that I want to upgrade my N97 to something else. What draws me to stay with the Symbian platform is all of the time and effort I have already spent in configuring the N97 and the Ovi suite and other apps. I've only had it for half a year and I want to get at least a few more months out of the effort I have put in. Maybe then either Nokia comes up with something I want to use rather than simply being the path of least resistance or some other platform's device really blows me away enough for me to break free. :)
Jon SWE, 13 Oct 2010Havent read thru the comments, to see if any one else posted this.
But there is a new browser... moreThe new browser and Swype is on the way. I think that for the purposes of this review, they only talked about what is here and now because it is a review. They do mention that you can use Opera Mobile as an alternative which is available here and now.
Overall, I do feel it is a fair review of the N8. The conclusions also compare the N8 to other similar phones. Note that the iPhone, Galaxy S and Desire are not amongst them. If the N8 is the best that Nokia has to offer at this time, they are months behind the competition and are not a player in the top end phone market.
Coolworld, 13 Oct 2010That was a great review,thank you for that.N8 is the closest to my dream phone, with good spea... more"How to reboot the phone from N8 user guide:
If your device stops responding
Reboot your device. Press and hold power button for about 8 seconds. The device vibrates three
times and switches off. To switch your device on again, press power button.
No content, such as contacts or messages, is deleted."
Alui, 13 Oct 2010I know and I agree with you. I just wanted to tell the quy that comparing S 3 with WP7 does no... moreHonestly dude, give it a rest... It's about personal choices in the end, so don't go trying to push yours down others throats. Also, this is an N8 review forum. You love your SGS, good for you! Let the others decide what they want...
its n8 thread and android and iOS users should avoid bashing nokia .. Its agreed that n8 has worst ui then why are u here talking abt ur great ui .
Btw i am going to buy n8 asap .
Havent read thru the comments, to see if any one else posted this.
But there is a new browser on the way, and its official! Just not exactly when... rumours talk about november.
GSMarena should have written something about that in the browser section... Sure we dont know how it will perform, but it would be nice for potential buyers to know Nokia is working on an iproved browsing experience...
Swype is also on its way.
Sure, it wont fit all, so the input is still somewhat a downer.
There is also an update of Ovi maps on its way.
But GSMarena didnt see the current version as a problem, so that is just a bonus for the readers.
No phone is perfect.
All mayor smartphone OSes has some quirks.
Symbian is good at deep level functions and customization.
Others might be more straight forward, but lack some of the depths and customization.
That was a great review,thank you for that.N8 is the closest to my dream phone, with good speaker/earphones sound,camera,video,screen, storage & connectivity and quality build, love that it can read from a flash drive . Disappointed with one thing and one thing only, the battery. You can't change it or take it out. It means if the phone freezes, you're fucked until battery runs out, unless there's a reset hole Apple style i've missed somehow ?
But guess what, i still want it, maybe for xmas
Oh dear, further bad news for the naysayers! It is already being reported on GSM arena that a "hack" exists to improve still image quality as well as increase video recording to 30fps with continuous autofocus :
"It's the video recording that got the more worthwhile boost though. Team HX managed to increase its framerate to 30fps and added… wait for it… continuous autofocus."
Seems that those negatives about this phone are already dwindling quickly! :D
dude, 13 Oct 2010Nokia phones are something like cigarettes for its fans/users nowadays. We want to get rid of ... moreI'm in exactly the same boat as you when it comes to touch screens. I have not been a fan and have been very reluctant to take the plunge but it seems we may well be forced to do so as this is the direction the market is taking.
It seems our reluctance may have paid off though as by all accounts this touch screen rendition by Nokia is far superior to the previous offerings. A benefit of not having the need to be the first to use something! :D
Nokia phones are something like cigarettes for its fans/users nowadays. We want to get rid of them and jump to other platforms, but like a bad habit, it sticks. Can't do so easily. In my case, I use a s60 phone and would like to jump to the Android/wp7/iOS platform but like them cigarettes, they're hard to let go of. So, what do you do if you plan to quit? Make the next transition to a substitute- in this Nokia smartphone case- Symbian 3 phones. I might just do that... I'm having second thoughts about this handset now since nokia's marketing it so aggressively. I still use a 5320 (s60) and I've got no experience with other touch screen platforms- this might prove to be a springboard for me. Use the N8 for a year or two and then jump onto the Android or wp7 bandwagon :-P
Hey look Alui's infatuation with the N8 continues! ha ha Here he is again spelling out the virtues of other phones while secretly lusting for an N8!
Nice review GSM. It has entrenched my desire to get the N8 ASAP! Bring it on. You see Alui, I am still deciding on which phone to get. I am not desperately trying to convince myself that my choice was the right one! :D
It was clearly spelt out in the review that the likelihood is that some of the biggest negatives on the N8 could easily be resolved with a firmware update, if not via installation of a third party app.
follower, 13 Oct 2010Oh come on... Android and MeeGo we can talk about, but iOS and Bada are missing way too many f... moreI know and I agree with you. I just wanted to tell the quy that comparing S 3 with WP7 does not make S 3 the best OS. For me the top of Os's is like this:
1. Android (2.2, 2.1);
2. iOS, but with jailbreak(it has multitasking for few "chosen" apps, the rest are frozen, maybe not such a bad idea).
4. Meego, Maemo(good but not enough phones and apps);
5. WP 6.5;
Alui, 13 Oct 2010@Xis
I agree with you. S^3 is better than WP7. But, hello, there are better Os's. Like iOS, A... moreOh come on... Android and MeeGo we can talk about, but iOS and Bada are missing way too many features.
iOS for example has terrible multitasking, no widgets, terrible notifications system etc. etc. Speed and simplicity alone do not make a good OS.
Alui, 13 Oct 2010@Xis
I agree with you. S^3 is better than WP7. But, hello, there are better Os's. Like iOS, A... moreIOS is only eye candy so
features and functionallity it's garbage
the only OSs i can compaire it too is android and Maemo is on another level
cause they are all open source platforms