[deleted post]man..stop using foul language..mind your manners please...im really starting to doubt your credibility in this thread...I advise you to work on your reading comprehension...don't be hasty to say something or you end up being the loser...first, check out her comments. what she really said is that Iphone was the fastest, faster than X7..also, she added, Iphone has good camera than HTC.
you compared numbers in some instances: screen resolution, number of apps, the phone dimensions...as you can see both phones are usable regardless of these specs....but SGS3 is not comparable to what N808PV can offer: the pureview technology..& that's the main topic here. what SGS3 can offer that is something new?..don't tell us again, the screen, the processor, the thinness,etc...HTC, Sony & Motorola followed that path..i don't have to list the specs..you know what i mean...we wanted something new & unique...fortunately, nokia doesn't copy. that is why we now witness a real innovation which is pureview tech.
Sausage, 24 Jun 2012Do not hate =(
X7 has AMOLED so why it couldn't look better than iPhone 4 despite the resol... moreSorry accidentally submit :P
However iPhone 4 has 800 mhz or 1 ghz processor (it's not sure how fast) so why couldn't 680 be faster with Symbian that's known as lightweight?
And beauty of screen is a taste issue, when you compare low res AMOLED and high res LCD.
[deleted post]Do not hate =(
X7 has AMOLED so why it couldn't look better than iPhone 4 despite the resolution. iPhone also has
add this cam to nokia win8 phone then maybe...just make sure hardware same as what microsoft said...dont care if phone is thick...
for nokia trollers: samsung galaxy s3 after first 2 weeks of intensive use,begin to scratch and fade away on the silver paint from the side narrow band. the white one,it is incredible. tell everybody. it was handled with maximum attention,but the paint begun to dissapear !! what a crap !!!
Anonymous, 24 Jun 2012its not a replacement. but a reliable camera phone whenever you don't have a DSLR. not all peo... moreUse direct flash is always dumb if you want a beautiful photo and not only a memory. Everyone with a bit of photography aknowledge knows that you cannot use direct flash on dark enviromments if you want a beautiful light, since the light so is hard and create horrible shadows.
Alui, 24 Jun 2012Nokia is a dead horse, don't put your money in it. This phone is presented as a replacement of... moreits not a replacement. but a reliable camera phone whenever you don't have a DSLR. not all people have this expensive gadget. & most people don't need to carry heavy equipment around. Its more of a convenience, portability, affordability, plus added functionality. nowadays, who would bring a camera instead of a phone.LOL. of course, one would have a camera phone instead. That's why 808PV comes into the scene. to be in that gap. bringing you a phone with high quality imaging capabilities.
moreover, N808PV is a stylish camera phone. who needs to bring DSLR to parties just to look like hired photographers carrying heavy camera strapped around their necks(no offense). also, its easy to use & lighter. you can ask anyone to use it so that you will be included in the photo. anyone who has this phone will stand out for sure. & everybody will ask for a copy since the pics' quality are superb. bluetooth & some social sharing apps will do the job . i think a DSLR can't do that.
-zoom/replacement lenses/field of view, = 41 MP sensor will do the job. PV uses looseless zoom so you won't loose image quality. other accessories are not needed since portability & convenience will be compromised. after all this is a phone.
-ISO( you can take pictures with a DSLR even in pitch dark without using the Flash) = people are not dumb not to use the flash in dark envt. this is only true for special situation like spying...LOL...if you don't want to disturb someone or something.
-pictures in sequence for fast moving scenes(808 need 3 secs between photos at max res). Nokia was very careful not to show any picture made with the 808 of fast moving subjects at max res. = this is true, but its the pureV mode that matters. 8 MP Pureview mode is more than enough. no need for a full resolution since it doesn't use oversampling.
Alui, 24 Jun 2012Nokia is a dead horse, don't put your money in it. This phone is presented as a replacement of... moreand than what did you recommend better for me if: i want the best photo and video performance alltogether in my pocket any time, a solid battery and gsm signal,perfect acoustics and i am not using ANY application because i am a 40 years doctor and i am not intersted anymore in apps and internet?
Alui, 24 Jun 2012Nokia is a dead horse, don't put your money in it. This phone is presented as a replacement of... morelol, i waited for same comment ;)
I have DSLR, also i have about 10-15 lens. I love it, but... i don't want to take 5-6 kg backpack with lens while i ride a bicycle. N8 good is replacement for compact camera, 808 for DSLR.
Also N8 has great DR, much better than on my Canon 400D.
DSLR needs only for small DOF, good bokeh. You can say about noise and ISO but when you downscale most of noise will be removed.
some my photos
The pure sound that 808 can record is just phenomenal! Listen this clip of how Finnish Air Force F18 Hornet taking off:
Thats pure power recorded with purewiew :)
lexx015, 24 Jun 2012Hello all!
Thanks for this great disscussion. I very glad to read this debate.
So, what i ... moreNice facts...true indeed...
In my opinion, android will reach its limit in the near future. since these phones are now using multiple cores, the efficiency of the OS will be in question. what more can be done next, 5 to ten cores. all phones will become equally faster and that's it.
The future will need an efficient and energy friendly OS. I think Belle OS is one of them. Its promising performance exhibited in N808PV is an evidence that is has more capabilities than the rest. the phone's 1.3ghz CPU performance as some video hands-on have shown is fluid enough to make one's overall experience a splendid one. Transitions and animations are smooth. one may think that it may run on multiple cores. but its not.
Multiple cores would mean more power consumption. plus, it may heat up the device. it's not an option for those who wanted to conserve power & resources & protect the env't from global warming. Nowadays, there's a great call for efficient & power friendly technologies. I think nokia Belle OS is responding to this call. A power efficient OS while giving you satisfactory performance.
Nokia is a dead horse, don't put your money in it. This phone is presented as a replacement of a DSLR. Here is why is NOT a replacement:
-zoom/replacement lenses/field of view,
-ISO( you can take pictures with a DSLR even in pitch dark without using the Flash)
-pictures in sequence for fast moving scenes(808 need 3 secs between photos at max res). Nokia was very careful not to show any picture made with the 808 of fast moving subjects at max res.
Andrew Tan, 24 Jun 2012S3 hardware part is well known, what the point I repeat here.
Everyone know it is the most ... morei believe i'm also speaking on others behalf when i tell you that this is a nokia forum and not a samsung one. . .so if you are so inloved with your sgs3 please go and praise it on the samsung forum. . .we all know here what kind of specs and perf. has the sgs3 so we do not need you or some other samboys to enlight us. . .if you don't like the PV is your choice but ours is to Love It!!!we Nokians are not idiots!we really know our tech!!!so stop bashing and please stop praising a utterly expensive piece of "hiperglazed" plastic that failed in the most shamefull way in a drop test being light years behind the formidable htc one x and iphone 4s!!!!!i do not even mention the 808 because there is no point of comparing it with sammy. . .i had the sgs 2 and i loved it so much that i sold it in 3 weeks.why?!same cheap plastic,poor battery life,poor camera from my point of view not from others though and yes nothing new. . .really nothing. . .i like htc products because when you pick one up,just like nokia,you feel something else. . you feel quality especially in the materials. . .so please leave us alone because we DO NOT CARE ABOUT SGS 3 WE CARE ABOUT A "CRAPPY,SHITTY,OLD,DEAD,BAD,FAILED. . . ." NOKIA 808 PV!!!by the way i am actually waiting to see when sgs3 or other android flagships will offer TRUE MULTITASKING!!! JUST SAYIN'. . .
Andrew Tan, 24 Jun 2012Which part I had said 808PV not perform well?
808PV is only 640x360 resolution and this 808... moreThe problem is that you look too much on the numbers themselves rather than the true result.
For example look at the screen of the iPhone 4, HTC DESIRE, and Nokia X7 (I have this device).
Nokia's screen is the lowest resolution but he also looks the best of the two.
HTC DESIRE has a 1 GHz processor, Nokia X7 has a 670 GHz processor but the nokia X7 faster (fastest is the iPhone 4).
htc titan 2 has a camera with 16 mega pixels, iPhone 4 has 8 megapixel camera, The camera of the iPhone 4 is better.
People here think you're a kid because only children compare numbers, they do not understand the true, 4 is more than 2 then 4 core is better, 16 is more than 8 then 16 megapixel camera is better and so on ...
Do not let manufacturers fool you with numbers!!
That's why everyone was skeptical about the 41 megapixel Nokia 808 PureView camera, but after they saw the pictures they were no longer skeptical.
Nokia 808 PureView manages to inspire people and this Samsung s3 can not do.
808 is what 808 does irreplaceable..41mpx @ months since announcement but still @_#
Andrew Tan, 24 Jun 2012Android UI lagging? If you compare low end Android with N8, then nothing much to said. Andr... moreheh, i don't need to use phone for calls, email and photos which faster than my pc only for smooth UI, this is unexpectedly for me
lexx015, 24 Jun 2012Hello all!
Thanks for this great disscussion. I very glad to read this debate.
So, what i ... moreAndroid UI lagging? If you compare low end Android with N8, then nothing much to said.
Android UI is second smooth for the moment, iPhone still the most smoother actually.
aaptk, 24 Jun 2012youre like a broken record
symbian is a bad os for you? ok, why? you gave no solid arguments.... moreI not from USA, american media who didnt wanted to see the improvement of symbian or not, is not my business.
I use and see from my eyes. No media will ever affecting me.
If media affecting me, I long long ago join iPhone, but until now I never buy iPhone as I know iPhone not meet my requirement.