Anonymous, 26 Mar 2013maybe you don't understand that well English, let me translate what that guy said: day light -... moreOne can really see how grainy things look when trying to view a video on full screen and not only that try seeing car plates at full screen. Nearly impossible to see so one clearly can see that video quality sucks when it comes down to detail.
Rob C, 27 Mar 2013Thank you to the GSMArena Team for this Review. I read your Review carefully, and I missed ... moreyou are basically right, but you can't always replace the lack of MP by simply moving a few steps forward:) and you can't change the fact that the results from this One:) aren't impressive at all, they are just...ok. No matter the software they bring the hardware has one of the biggest roles and HTC's neglected it.
Thank you to the GSMArena Team for this Review.
I read your Review carefully, and I missed the part about how you updated your HTC with the newest Software that addresses most of the issues with the Camera.
For more Info read: http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/review-htc-ones-camera-tested .
One fallacy I find with the manner in which the Camera was reviewed (other than the Software Update) is best explained thusly.
Assume two Cameras both with identical Sensors but one has a 4x Zoom (for argument sake, the HTC One) and the other has a 8x Zoom (for argument sake, the Nokia Lumia 920).
You then go on to explain that whether you held the Camera in your right hand or your left hand, indeed even standing on your head, the Nokia consistently produced images that seemed twice as close as the HTC, (ignoring the effect of the Zoom after acknowledging it's existence).
Similarly you stand in one spot, take two Photos, and say the Camera with the higher megapixels resolves more detail.
Just like with a smaller Zoom Lens when you have fewer megapixels you need to take a step or two closer to your Subject (assuming your subject is close) or move the Digital Zoom to 2x (on the HTC) assuming the Subject is far away.
You can Google for the words: "zoom Lens take a step forward" and read that you do not need to buy a few different Zoom Lenses for your Camera and that most People can get by with a couple of Lenses; just take a step or two closer or further from the Subject.
The "usefulness" of Zoom Lenses are: Access or Safety. At a Sporting Event you can only get so close, same with a Lion, or Photos taken from a Rooftop. In those situations a Zoom Lens is necessary.
Higher megapixels are necessary when you want to crop, want to Print larger Photos, or want to maximize the amount of material you can include in one image.
With a Camera that has a smaller Zoom Lens or fewer megapixels you need to take a few steps forward (for the closeups). In the case of larger Pixels you have the advantage of more light input, less noise, faster Shutter and the ability to stop down (and use the 'better' portion of the Lens).
So paint your Oranges red before you compare them to Apples and say one is not as good a Fruit because it is not as red.
Shoot a 8MP Camera from 20 feet away and a 4MP Camera from 10 feet away from the Subject and then compare the DETAIL. Don't post process then zoom and crop the higher MP Photo and say it is sharper than the lower MP Photo. It is not a reasonable way to compare the two.
To put a larger Sensor in the HTC One would require making the Phone thicker (or using far more expensive Optics, or to accept more distortion).
Similarly, replacing the Sensor (that has more megapixels than the HTC One) in a Competitor's Phone with a Sensor that has larger Pixels would also require the Competitor to make their Phone thicker (or use far more expensive Optics, or accept more distortion).
That is an Apples to Apples comparison.
Cellphones are like Laptops in that is is usually impossible to replace the Hardware (thus the 'Battery and SD Card' argument), but new Software can be purchased (or in this case obtained via a free Update) and the newest algorithmic techniques (Program) can improve the results that we will obtain from that non-replaceable Hardware.
With a Cellphone you are stuck with the Hardware you buy, but the Software can be replaced. HTC's Camera issues, in NORMAL lighting conditions, can be fixed via Software, whereas other Cellphones (the exception being the Nokia 808 PureView) can not be fixed by Software to work better in LOW lighting conditions.
Whether there IS going to be many more Updates of the Software coming for the Nokia 808 PureView (Manufacturer or 3rd Party) is another matter entirely.
Tom-Helge, 26 Mar 2013If the screen on the HTC One had been 650 PPI (to take an example), then you would see differe... moreThat's just like saying that people can see the difference in the size of atom from a proton...
DADDY!, 26 Mar 2013Which phone has the loudest volume when listening through premium top notch earphones. My i... moreSeeing is believing...go to any telcos to try out the HTC one by yourself.I bet you will like it!
Tom-Helge, 26 Mar 2013So if you are out taking pictures and recording videos of your kids at the beach and then sudd... moreWhat if the second backup battery also runs out of juice with massive usage before the day ends?replaced with third battery?
Tom-Helge, 26 Mar 2013You don't see differences from 441 to 468 PPI. You are just imagine you do.I didn't say 441, i said ~400, because the guy was talking about optimus g's 5.5 screen.
why is endurance rating of HTC One's battery lower than SGS III when its outlasted the SGS III in all three areas
., 26 Mar 2013Your example with fps is a different story. I am not saying that it's easy to spot individual ... moreIf the screen on the HTC One had been 650 PPI (to take an example), then you would see differences from 441 PPI most likely, but not from 441 PPI to 468 PPI.
Anonymous, 26 Mar 2013No, it will not look smoother, at that point you will only lose fine detail because your eyes ... moreLose individual detail with higher ppi.. what else do you have?
I don't know how do you see things, but I can see the difference, thats all.
., 26 Mar 2013Your example with fps is a different story. I am not saying that it's easy to spot individual ... moreNo, it will not look smoother, at that point you will only lose fine detail because your eyes CANT see individual pixels.
Tom-Helge, 26 Mar 2013With a magnifying glass, you can see the differences. But not if you are holding it like 10-15... moreYour example with fps is a different story. I am not saying that it's easy to spot individual pixels with ~400ppi, I'm just saying that the images in a 468ppi screen will look smoother. And you don't need to reply to this, I made my point.
DADDY!, 26 Mar 2013yes with earphones plugged in! which is loudest phone to get?I meant the type of earphones. Anyways, I don't know what is the loudest phone, but i know that the most recent flagships deliver best sound quality leaving the competition far behind. There's a bunch of reviews and they all show the same.
Chebulla, 26 Mar 2013Two words: BATTERY BAR
much, much better then a second battery. And you can charge other de... moreSo if you are out taking pictures and recording videos of your kids at the beach and then suddenly realize that you only have 10% battery left.
Would you just change to a new fully charged battery, or use a big ass brick of a battery pack that someone else have to hold for you so you can continue to take pictures and record videos of your kids?
., 26 Mar 2013Higher ppi is not a pathetic argument. I agree that most people don't really care about ppi si... moreWith a magnifying glass, you can see the differences. But not if you are holding it like 10-15 cm from your eyes. At those high PPI's, it's pretty much impossible to see the differences without a magnifying glass.
Just to take an example, do you see any differences from 200 to 300 fps in a game?