DooMQuake, 14 Oct 2013DO NOT forget that the XPERIA Z1 does not even have the update, has a soft even immature.An update to improve performance can come to any of them. So what is your point?
DO NOT forget that the XPERIA Z1 does not even have the update, has a soft even immature.
Have to say. The Lumia is out of thus world.
its a fantastic device.
my other half is already swapping here iphone 5s
my mates want one to.
LemonCheeseCake, 14 Oct 2013Real Calculation (the lesser score is better) 1. Nokia 1020 Result : 1,1,4,6,1,1,1,2,1 / ... moreIf you rank like that, you are giving equal importance to everything. Good quality photos in good light and low light is obviously more important than having good HDR or panaroma.
JonHolstein, 14 Oct 2013Actually, if I ask around, taking pictures indoor is a much more common scenario. However some... moreYou say that some people don't even try to take pictures indoors with their mobile as they know there is no point yet you say most pictures are taken indoors. You are contradicting yourself. Mobile phone cameras are in fact used more often for outdoor photography as indoor low light photos aren't good enough. Also read the 1st line of page 5 of this review where GSMArena also thinks 'Most photos are taken during the day...'
You also say that most low light performers performs pretty good, or very good in highly lit situations and that's why it is wiser to go for the better low light performer. By your logic, if I wanted the best Android camera, it would be better to go for HTC One since it's the best android for low light, no flash. But overall, HTC One was dead last...so your thinking is flawed.
Finally I just want to say if you think low light should be given more weight, that is fine. Different people have different preferences and that is ok. But my point of ranking the devices was just to show that indeed lumia 1020 deserves 1st and Note 3 deserves 2nd.
Why do you guys compare 1020 to clearly inferior camera phones ? Compare it with something worthy of comparison. Like 808, which acctually has a better camera
Just like old times. Samsung fans always got angry when there are phones/phablets/tablets/gadgets better than Samsung. Why why why ????? Hahahahaha
Android = Good
iOS = Good
WP = Good
Samsung Good, Nokia Good, Apple Good, Sony Good, LG Good, HTC Good. So don't be angry, EVERYTHING IS GOOD.
That's no FAIRPLAY , you just choose the note 3 just for S.... appaer second. the S4 was it so bad that it can not compete against the 5 others smartphone (no phablet).
TSL, 14 Oct 2013I gave weights based on how often I use the camera in different scenarios. Taking pics outdoor... moreActually, if I ask around, taking pictures indoor is a much more common scenario. However some of those indoor pictures that people tried taking with mobile cameras, but sometimes the pictures are so bad that they can't be used. And some people dont even try to take pictures with their mobile, as they know from experience that there i no point. But amongst people I know, most moments they want to capture in their everyday life is indoor photos.
Even if you leave your phone in auto-mode so that the flash is fiered, if the object is too far away, it's till the no flash performance that counts.
The thing is, that most low light performers performs pretty good, or very good in highly lit situations. But the same is not true when the statement is reversed, so if you go for the low light performer, you will at least get ok photos in good light situations. If you go for the good light performer, you could very well end up without useable photos as soon as the light is not good enough.
So I would say low light performence is quite more important than good light performance in a grading system.
Cyber.Angel, 14 Oct 2013My Galaxy S4 Active can also shoot underwater!Your s4 active is epic fail.buddy...... Rofl
beCool, 14 Oct 2013I think Nokia 1020 should compare with Galaxy S4 Zoom.
They already did that...
JonHolstein, 14 Oct 2013I dont agree, to you usefullness grading. Low light performance often weight higher, cause ... moreI gave weights based on how often I use the camera in different scenarios. Taking pics outdoors is much more common than indoors and I think if you ask around, others will agree. 2ndly, just because the led flash of mobile phones isn't good enough and so I should give less weight to it is a pointless argument. Here again, I considered what most people do. They leave the flash settings to auto and more often than not, the flash will go on indoors. Very few people leave it off. For me, I've seen that I get pictures with more true color if flash is off. But it also has much more noise. I would rather have a little whiter pic with less noise. You are free to give your own weightings but the rankings of the 1st and 2nd is unlikely to change.
Jean83, 14 Oct 2013Ok dont want to continue discussion in this way.Just one more thing:some of us drive motorbike... moreYou are beyond blowing this out of proportion.
No the Zoom does not easily fit in every pocket. However it does fit in some.
Anonymous, 14 Oct 2013-Can Galaxy S4 Zoom fit into your pocket?
-Depends. Are you wearing skinny jeans? If not th... moreOk dont want to continue discussion in this way.Just one more thing:some of us drive motorbikes,and generally that apply for cars too.Even if you have pockets large enough,that doesnt mean that you can carry a phone comfortably in.
So please tell me what phone do you use,and if you have any pocket issues with it?
To all who want a comparison between Nokia Lumia 1020 and Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom. Here you go: http://blog.gsmarena.com/nokia-lumia-1020-and-samsung-galaxy-s4-camera-capabilities-compared-on-video/
Jean83, 14 Oct 2013Why so much ranting?i do not offend you,and yes i have Lumia 925..... but that doesnt mean tha... more-Can Galaxy S4 Zoom fit into your pocket?
-Depends. Are you wearing skinny jeans? If not then generally yes.
-Have you ever saw S4zoom?
it wont fit in jeans its that huge.
And besides that even if S4zoom has better camera(which i doubt),than it will lose on every other "smarthphone" aspect against 1020!
-Did you read my comment??????? No.
If you are not wearing skinny jeans then generally it will fit. Not every pants. Even think larger phones have issues in skinny jeans.
And did I mention which had a better camera or was a better phone? No.
Are you a crazed fanboy? Probably
-Why so much ranting?i do not offend you,and yes i have Lumia 925..... but that doesnt mean that am blind fanboy.Just wished to wait a little bit for 1020,but i am not regretting my choice.And have the opportunity to handle S4zoom,oh boy you must take it for yourself too see what i mean.The fact is that is unpocketable.
Who is ranting?????
Anonymous, 12 Oct 2013Nope. Nokia 808 still has a discrete image processor. Nokia had low-level source code access t... moreHave you tried to shoot video?
Even with OIS it's not that great.
How about low light comparison?
Then Lumia 1020 > Nokia 808.