TheNeighbor, 13 Sep 2015This is some weird marketing experiment on Samsung's part, targeting people who don't really u... moreAlthough you make some very goods points about their marketing strategy and decisions made, I should mention that the Samsung Galaxy Note series was designed for business-oriented people. (Not why I bought it though.) With this in mind, is it really a wonder why they took the SD card slot and replaceable battery away? Don't get me wrong, these were two of my favorite features that separated Samsung from Apple. But there are good reasons for this. I wrote a post for this somewhere on this thread. It's lengthy so I won't reiterate here.
Why did they take away the IR blaster and add the heart rate monitor? That is a very good question, considering they are now targeting normal, every day users and not the tech hungry individuals or business-orientated people as before. I could have said they took the IR blaster away because people who are serious business people don't have time for TV. But that doesn't make sense now with the target change. I don't care that my Note 5 doesn't have one. Why? You guessed it! I don't watch TV anymore. Not worth the time if you want to get your life in order. Besides, you already have a remote. What you may not have is a heart rate monitor, which in my opinion is better because it promotes health and not laziness. I don't want to sound like I am a health nut, because I'm not. But it makes sense.
The glass back was something necessary for the new wireless charging technology, even though it is not as practical or pleasant as one would hope for. It will not work with any metal covers. This is something iPhones can't do. Is it that important? Maybe not, but it's a new technology that Samsung is taking advantage of. It will be big one day. But, Apple might let it slip by like other technologies they failed to incorporate, but seems to make up for later. I'm not saying that one is better than the other. I am simply saying that each device has its specialized features that will be dependent on what the user needs it for. That is what ultimately makes it a good device for any particular consumer.
AnonD-422874, 13 Sep 2015Obviously...Samsung's thinking was "let's go Apple all the way"Apple thinking "Lets do it the Samsung way". Hello 12inch ipad pro and apple pencil and 4gb ram. Oh, hello iphone 6s 2gb ram.
So...you're saying that the ONLY reason you used a Samsung is because of the ability to change batteries and remove the SD card? You are going to switch to an iPhone because you are mad, just like I was. I am also a deep fan of those things and said the same thing when I heard the mortifying news. I am a proud owner of a Note 5, a considerable upgrade from a Note 2. Here is why I decided to buy it. I did some research and realized that there are very good reasons they did this.
For one, batteries (especially 3rd party ones) have caused safety issues. I had 2 replacement batteries that I switched out regularly, effectively not having to charge my phone...ever! But, the batteries were starting to swell and the battery contacts were being rubbed out. Eventually, I was getting undesirable battery life. It was bad and inconsistent. I expected some loss of battery life with age of the phone, but it was bad.
SD cards can be corrupted or damaged, especially since many people don't always treat them with care EVERY time they remove it and replace it. Also, by switching out SD cards frequently (and like batteries), the contacts degraded little by little. It can take longer to transfer data to and from it and can also damage files as its being transferred, possibly losing something forever. I've had this happen with my Note 10.1 (2014 edition) tablet and other smartphones (rarely did this happen with my Note 2 due to usually using the same SD card only so I did not do much switching. ALSO, an integrated SD card means more speed and allows the design of the phone to be slimmer (weight and size is not a deal breaker for me, so I don't really care that its slimmer and lighter, but some people do.)
Although I am a Samsung Android powered fan, I cannot say anything bad about the iPhone, except for the questionable hardware quality. Especially compared to Samsung flagship phones. No matter what anyone says, the iOS is a top-notch operating system. But that's what people are really paying a premium price for, its not the hardware. They simplified the whole experience (which works for most people), but effectively restricts much of what you can do with the phone. Of course, there are good reasons for that too. Like, keeping the integrity of the OS intact (which is one reason why its closed-source). I happen to do more than menial tasks and use my device to its full potential. My wife, on the other hand, bought an iPhone and hardly uses any features. (She only bought it because most people she knows has them and she likes using Face Time, which is a probably the most polished video chat app available so far, so I can understand why.) My step-dad stopped using Android phones and bought an iPhone for simplicity. I am not a simple guy and I am deeply into technology. I am not a self-proclaimed expert, nor am I saying that one is better than the other. But I do know what I'm saying (or I wouldn't say anything) and I keep up with technology and love to play with phones (locked or unlocked). You don't have to take my word for it, play with both products THEN you have appropriate ammo toward the other products. Most people just don't know anything about cell phones, even though they think they do. I know this because I frequently ask people about what they like about their phone. Most iPhone users say its because of simplicity and because many other people they know own one. Most die-hard Android phone owners say its because of what they can do with it and how they like the features (besides the bloatware and other pre-loaded proprietary brand apps.) While iOS runs more fluidly, and can do so with much less RAM and processing power, it is mostly due to limited processes versus extra processes that people don't always use running in the background on Android phones. This is a user preference as the iOS offers limited features (unless you root it.) Most flagship Android phones come with a plethora of customization and features without rooting it. Also, keep in mind that Android is an open source with its own cons and pros. A important con is that not all phones will work the same because Android is incorporated into so many different phones with different hardware and different customized user interfaces that are specific to that particular model of the phone. People like iPhone and I can see why, but Android is not going anywhere because of Apple. There is a reason why there is a close competitive race between the two. It's because they both work great for different things that interest a particular user.
WHAT I DON'T LIKE ABOUT APPLE--is the way they don't care about their customers or people in general. They are money-hungry dirt bags. Don't believe me? Then, why can't iPhone owners get insurance on their phones when everyone else can? And if you can now (not sure if they changed it) they didn't before. There may be more reasons this didn't happen than I know, but the fact remains that broken iPhone users have to buy another product at retail (or did for a long time.)
What most people might not know is that the same companies that manufacture the electronics and other hardware for these phones are usually the same that supply almost all branded phones. For the most part, Samsung, Apple, and other smartphone makers buy their hardware from others. So, why are iPhones users getting questionably less hardware than Samsung's devices that are priced the same? Again, I'm trying to stay objective with these two companies and their devices, and although what is on a spec sheet cannot always determine the best operation for a device when flagship phones are compared, there are considerable advantages to owning each phone. For me, its the S Pen. lol Can't live without it! If you think that iPhone can compete with that by using a stylus or your finger, then I don't think you have properly tested the Note's very capable and cool S Pen. There is a big difference. P.S. If you reply to this post, please don't presume you know more than you do. If you have never tried the other product, don't knock it. If you have done NO research, then don't try to denounce anything I've said. If you have properly done both, then we can have a credible discussion. "I don't like iPhones because they're stupid" is not an acceptable response. Educate yourselves, then you will have credibility to your convictions and many will take you more seriously. (This message is for everyone; I am not trying to single you out or say that you don't know anything. I am simply asking that you explore more information to find exactly why these companies do what they do. Many people frequently think companies make stupid mistakes, and sometimes they do, but the people who make the decisions are rich and very much intelligent and they didn't get to where they are at by not knowing what they are doing.)
AnonD-111968, 12 Sep 2015I agree with The Neighbor. The glass back for me is not a very good choice by Samsung. There's... moreThat's right, I use a transparent case by ringke. Very good case. Although the note 5 is a really great state of the art phone the note 5 and other front and back glass phones are indeed very very sensitive. It doesn't make sense to me WHY someone would use GLASS on a smartphone to cover it. Glass has to be the most brittle, weakest, breakable, damageable. With Glass you will always have to be careful like your life is on it, like holding a brand new baby, anything, wood , or even the seemingly harmless things will probably do something to glass. I don't get it, out of all the other great materials the world has, this phone could look the same, yet be equipped with better quality material that doesn't make the phone feel like a literal piece of just glass, think about it. . Glass has to be the lowest kind next to plastic. I guess I understand the game, anything happens to the phone and you're looking to your wallet and samsung/phone retail to fix it. $$. To me, it's nothing but planned obsolescence. To keep you spending. There is no way that in this system there will be a perfect undamageable, unbreakable smart phone that will not become obsolete. If products did not become obsolete the corporations would be out of business.
sunny, 12 Sep 2015The most decent phone nowadays is samsung galaxy note 4. It is an excellent phone which beats ... moreThis is some weird marketing experiment on Samsung's part, targeting people who don't really use the Note series as power users by taking out essentials like memory expansion, and battery replacement in favor for shiny breakable glass back.
S Pen being stuck in the silo is pretty obvious the design team who worked on this didn't think or tested this flaw thoroughly. Is this covered with that free insurance?
Infrared remote control was taken out, and it doesn't make sense that they kept the heartbeat sensor instead which most people will never use.
Fast wireless/fast charging is encouraged to kill the battery capacity faster.
Anonymous, 12 Sep 2015You said you had drop it twice in 21 months. So if you use Note5 you have the same probability... moreYou're funny. Yes, go order some spare curved glass right now. You know you'll eventually drop it more than once, because you need to show off that shiny back.
The most decent phone nowadays is samsung galaxy note 4. It is an excellent phone which beats all other phones event the phones which sansung is going to release for the next 2 years. So whoever wants the best phone with them for the next 3 years grab note 4. You will be the happiest person. I have used all the phones till date but note 4 is the amazing one. S6 is the phone i could not bear it for 2 days. Note 4 is excellent in all aspects battery, display, speed etc. No complaints at all in fact i would like to thank samsung for making such a good phone and advice them stop making craps and make phone like note 4. Thank you.
[deleted post]DITTO . Anyways he is the reason we get to grill someone.and to have some fun with lol.so thats fine with me.
Btw Sony has also stated that there Xperia Flagship was never and no longer going to b waterproof so that makes the Note5 even better alternative to major smartphone users.I am glad that I did not wait for the Sony Xperia Z5 Premium and bought Note5 the Awesomest Smartphone ritnow.
No! I haven't met that problem. I'm also use Note3 before too. I have the same problem as your brother.
I was waiting for note5 but it's put me down cause no sd card slot . Will not buy . I will buy iphone 6S plus instead of note 5
TheNeighbor, 12 Sep 2015I think I've dropped my Note 3 twice in the 21 months I've been using it, and it always droppe... moreYou said you had drop it twice in 21 months. So if you use Note5 you have the same probability of dropping it only twice within 2 years. That equal to 2 times glass replacement which Samsung had clearly state only cost $39. Is that too much to ask? On the plus side, the first year is covered by free replacement warranty. So, you only pay $39 in 2 years of usage. Or buy the glass yourself and DIY. Not that hard.
Did anybody notice internet radio app not working on note 5. I tried many apps but no use only showing connecting and buffering but not working
TheNeighbor, 12 Sep 2015"without taking care of it a lot."... what a load of bull. Yes, carry that thing wit... moreYes thats exactly correct...and u've got it right for the first time cause atleast for the first year i can use it "without taking care of it a lot" as i have a screen replacement option as a freebie with the preorder offer.It also gives a wireless battery charger dock for free.
Btw not only does the Note5 looks better but it has for the 1st time become "BEAUTY WITH BRAINS" : ]
AnonD-100398, 12 Sep 2015I am not saying that the glass back cannot break b it on note4 note5 or as a matter of fact an... more"without taking care of it a lot."... what a load of bull. Yes, carry that thing without any protection. You need to show off that shiny glass back. Drop it when you feel like it. Hey, it's only $1000+ price for the 64GB where you live.
This is the sort of abuse coming from guys like this with this types of promos. It's actually why the overpricing is for- so you'll feel like a valued customer with these free warrantees. They know you'll likely to break it.
I am not saying that the glass back cannot break b it on note4 note5 or as a matter of fact any other smartphone any which ways samsung has already provided me 1 time screen replacement in a preorder offer so its for sure that i can atleast use my note5 without taking care of it a lot.
These haters have streched this topic a lot and its getting boring now...zzzzz lol
Btw i chose Note5 over S6 Edge + cause note5 has a wider screen than S6 Edge+ screen it has a less wider screen cause some of the scren estate gets lost in the curved edges which are on both the sides .earlier note4 edge was better in this department it has only one curve and that too it was not very deep.I took a hands on of both Note5 and S6 edge+ and found out that the videos other media and everything looks better on the Note 5 than the S6 Edge+.
AnonD-111968, 12 Sep 2015I agree with The Neighbor. The glass back for me is not a very good choice by Samsung. There's... moreI think I've dropped my Note 3 twice in the 21 months I've been using it, and it always dropped on its back. I only use an aluminum anodized side bumper:
Even with a clear acrylic glass (plastic in short), that thing is going to be scratched up after a few days. I have a waterproof case that's made of acrylic, and it's prone to scratches.
At least a metal bumper can protect and have the back exposed, but that's a bad idea for this Note.5. You'd need a full protection like with Otterbox with that fragile back. In the end, those who'll actually be using this without protection are just asking for it to shatter. No matter how careful you want to be with a naked device - some m*ron will bump into you, and bam! -there goes that $1000 device on the ground.
I agree with The Neighbor. The glass back for me is not a very good choice by Samsung. There's a high probability that a phone will land on it's back the usual way it is being used- we can discuss the Physics about it. I believe those who favors the glass back are GUILTY since they are using a protective casing and covers the glass, so what's the point of having a glass back. Ah they are wise they use a transparent case :)
Anonymous, 12 Sep 2015You make no sense. I eat with glass plate. They serve soup with glass bowl in restaurant. Did ... moreYou mean they don't break when you drop them? Plates are made of ceramic mostly - they break too. Plastic plates don't break on impact though.