AnonD-367917, 02 Sep 2016It is a hard one, yes!
To keep a phone that might be dodgy (but awesome), or 'hand it back'... moreI've not used the fast charge mode, except one time to charge 50% just to test how fast it really is - not impressed and I have been saying that fast charging and any of the wireless will actually add to the heat, hence a contribution to battery degradation.
I'm really getting excellent SOTs, with over 7 hours per charge. It's just a disappointment with the exploding batteries.
Downloading big files while charging increases the temperature to 40°C, and the same temperature of it's on hotspot mode while charging. So avoid doing all those. I've never have this problem with the Note 3.
I'm now just turning off the device to charge it on an analog timer.
AnonD-100398, 01 Sep 2016lg g5 does not agree with your note7 fanboy talks.Not sure why you need to chime in on that reply.. I put to you "who is the fanperson"?
My guess is you have an LG (G5 was it?)
Sure,.. how does dual sensor recording and three way optical stabilisation and fixed optics work out in practise? I can imagine a slew of instances where the answer would be 'good enough', but also a few 'misses'...
I haven't looked at an ifixit teardown, but having a few 3d cameras, knowing how trick it is to get dual sensors working together in meaningful ways, with 'optical stabilisation'? Sure!
Good luck with that.
Any nice aberrations to notice, or does the software preremove them for you?
Raw mode? Or is raw mode impractical with dual sensors and the nice tech that recombines them into a 'better' shot?
I am sure it is a great camera phone..
But there are probably nicer (less fanboi) ways to introduce that camera into a discussion happening about 'cameras'.
AnonD-13060, 02 Sep 2016Thanks dude, and also would like to ask which smartphone has the best camera right now in the ... moreRight camera depends on what you wish to photograph most.
With digital single lens reflex (dslr) cameras, we would choose the 'lens' to match the moment. That was all that mattered on them, as the 'high techedness' of their componentry and large sensor means that no compromises are made.
Newer models have higher ISO sensitivities (with equal or less noise), and greater dynamic range (scale of light capture); otherwise shutter speeds of 1/8000th of a second and viewfinder size and 'button layout' are the big differences.
Higher end models are often better weatherproofed.
Getting back to the lens though.. (the actual user changeable part)
We could choose a wide angle lens, great for indoor shots (trying to capture a large area from an up close position) and landscapes.
A mild zoom can be a great 'street photography lens' or portraiture lens.
And telephoto for wildlife and sports...
Now the truth is an experienced photographer will use specific lenses for the way they capture light.
Some have a beautiful soft bokeh (the out of focus foreground and background effects we tend to see when captured on nice kit), and to a real photographer they would consider the aperature blades and lens structure of their chosen glass, when 'building the shot'.
Just about none of this matters to digital compact cameras.
With the exception of only a few zoom models (with built in lenses that might have a three times optical zoom), most camera phones differentiate themselves by stating how many mega pixel they are.
This is the most useless metric to judge these compact cameras by.
To actually resolve light onto a high megapixel sensor into a 'sharp image', requires very exact glass. More so than film which was thick and varied.. digital sensors are VERY flat.
And they do not feature 'nice glass' (generally) up front to refine that light well onto the sensor surface.
DSLR cameras stopped playing the megapixel war yonks back, fortunately, and even top tier high end full frame sensors worth 'top dollar' might feature a 'mere 12 megapixels'.
Photos taken on a full frame dslr with expensive optics might be worthy of 'poster sized prints' (and hence make use of lots of megapixels), but small compact cameras seldom will.
Most users do not even print 6x4s of their photos.
printed photos have a lot more range in colour than even the best monitors that consumers buy will display, so until we print something out, we are not likely to even know how nice an actual photo was 'recorded'.
Not many people print a3/a4 sizes from pocket cameras, and even if they did, software prior to hitting that printer will do a better job of making the photo 'nice' than any 'on camera' settings will (generally sharpening up the shot nicely for large format printing).
Even for A3/A4 sized printouts, and camera phone will have enough megapixels to resolve a 'sharp' photo.
But, what is a 'sharp photo'?
Assuming our camera phones had perfect glass in front of the sensor (they do not), would our shots be sharp?
In daylight at 1/2000th of a second all cameras can take a 'sharp shot'. Pretty hard for hand induced movement or subject movement to make it 'blurry'.
-for all other lighting conditions, camera sensor technology is what matters (way more than megapixel rightly will).
If a given sensor can ramp up the ISO (sensitivity) level to reduce the shutter being open for longer 1/15th of a second (the point where I as an experienced photographer have a hard time getting a perfect shot, and this is with decades of practise and being able to breathe correctly, and using 2 second self timer etc), then the sensor can effectively stop the shot being blurred.
If the glass is 'fast' (egf1.7 being faster than f2.2) then that can gomtowards keeping the shutter open less time, and less blurry shots/more sharp shots.
And at 1/15th of a second, your target might be blurry, so combining fast lens with a sensitive sensor allows capturing a moving child, indoors, in less than ideal lighting, as a nice sharp shot.
None of these sharp shots have anything to do with megapixel, and even being 3 megapixel, would be sharper than a blurry shot from hand movement, or subject movement because the lens wasn't fast enough or the sensor not 'sensitive' enough to capture the shot correctly.
Most cameras take great shots during the day. The reason why we talk about 'low light capture' is that this is what seperates the 'boys' from the 'men'...
Now the Note 7 has optical stabilsation (as do many others) so it has the trifecta; great glass on a sensitive sensor with physical couterbalancing to hand induced shakes. Even at 1/15th of a second this camera could perform adequately...
Why do I trump the Note 7 as being the best camera phone presently?
It gets all of the above stuff right, and even has lens kit to allow real photobuffs a chance to resolve even more from their 'go to camera'.
Itmis even waterproof so it will take the shots that others would dare to try (eg skiing and swimming)..
But it is more than that...
It quite simply has an exceptional dynamic range. Something that only printouts might reveal. It captures light better than many other prosumer cameras, certainly all small sensor types. It is the latest sony tech, combined with canons dual focus technology.
This is a world first, requiring some crazy hardware pairing to achieve.
So, the job it is meant to do, it does well, better than most will realise.
I will take a pepsi challenge...
Lets print actual photos and compare.
Some other camera taking a 'sharper' photo in daylight is like spec sheet bullshit. Not really a practical use, vs they give up in all other shooting conditions.
Being 20% (a made up number) sharper in one shooting condition (when everybody is sharp enough), and having blurry photos for all real world conditions is just silly.
Don't underestimate 'dual pixel focus' (that Canon technology), that allows finding the subject in the scene and setting focus rapidly. That is the difference between capturing the shot of Little Johnny picking his nostril hairs, and the one of him with a finger in the mouth.
On the Note 7 I would have both of those photos.. even if Johnny was running right at me!
So which is best for you?
I don't know?!
The note 7 is ready for everyone.
Technically if you were doing JUST landscape, a nokia pureview with crazy megapixels (41mp) on a large sensor, might be relevant.
If doing wildlife, a camera phone with an optical zoom might help.
For a relevant phone, I would go a waterproof one, and add a lens kit.
So the S7 might be a bargain, yes?
What are you wanting to photograph? (This is the most important question)
Eg selfies only? Some phones have selfie cameras with optical stabilisation...
For best in class/real world usage the Note 7 is a sweet enough deal that I grabbed it for its camera setup, and I am pretty fussy about these things....
Oh No , Samsung has delayed the PRE-ORDER sales which was to begin today 2-sep-2016, to an unknown date as per the sms, wish i too had handson to the best smartphone for 2016
AnonD-77443, 02 Sep 2016No recall in Australia yet but i won't be selling my GN4 in a hurry given the rumors of a reca... moreIt is a hard one, yes!
To keep a phone that might be dodgy (but awesome), or 'hand it back'?
The first thing I did was turned 'fast charging' off, and as my wireless charger isn't a 'fast charge' model (and gives exceptional battery life from years of cycles on my Nokia 920), I am happy sticking with genuine cable and charger.
Truth is the chipset has been set to handle a much higher rate of charge, and combine that with a 'thinner' / non genuine cable, and electrically speaking, things can get funky.
I knew there would be no way I would return my unit, and then I read something (unconfirmed) of batteries exploding in transport... now this would be serious.
If we can get a statement about if it was a bad batch of batteries or some such; I will feel better.
Most of the design is tried and tested from the S7/Edge, so 'quality control issues' is not the issue really; something has gone wrong, and once identified, we can get on with the enjoyment (knowing no recall on OUR units)...
Many instances of laptop batteries and 'issues' throughout the last couple of decades.... if this was simply a worst case scenario of high power charger and generic (thin) cable, then we have a winner; if it is something Samsung have done; not so cool.
I am a happy camper with this phone, so until a telco rep knocks on my door insisting on returning MY unit, I will continue to enjoy this product!
I went and turned off tonnes of 'battery drain' features (like 'smart stay' screen on), and am getting phenominal battery life.
30% battery for 30 hours including some screen on time (guild of dungeoneering and you tube) a few calls and map lookups etc (light usage, but several days of light usage and one full day of hardcore is enough for most).
Bigger batteries add weight and size; manufacturers are alsways trying to find the right balance. Apple seem to target ten hours run time in their tablets, changing battery size to hit that metric!
AnonD-367917, 01 Sep 20163:2 is the ratio on many real cameras and prints perfect to 6x4 etc... probably best to tak... moreThanks dude, and also would like to ask which smartphone has the best camera right now in the market ? Pls suggest that also....
It's the best phone ever i tryed. Its unbeatable. Buy it it's really good. But unfortunately it not released in india sores till now. When it release in india?
Anonymous, 02 Sep 2016Cheep chargers maybe??
http://www.windowscentral.com/windows-phone-disasters-my-nokia-lumia-9... moreYour probably right. You can even see the non genuine charger (with adapter) in the photo of this link.
[deleted post]And I'm not denying the bad news about the battery.
Open up your Samsung phone and you'll see half a dozen warnings on the battery telling you what NOT to do. Now imagine someone who bought a cheap charger from China. Have any of you actually opened up these things (the cheap Chinese chargers, that is). They are all horribly soldered unprofessional jobs. Remember that if the soldering goes just a little out of place you can get a fire or damage or whatever. That's why the PS3 and the Xbox got their respective yellow light and red ring of death. Imagine sticking that in your mobile device, it's an accident waiting to happen.
Batteries leak and catch fire. Fact of life. When you are making 100's of millions of devices something is bound to happen. If there are 1 or 2 incidents, then save them for your reddit adventures, but if that number starts to get in the hundreds or thousands for a specific model or manufacturer, then you can post them up onto every billboard you see.
If your smartphone DID catch fire and you DIDN'T do anything to (let's be honest here, I won't tell), then go and get it replaced as well as a little extra on top for damages. But if you chucked it on the stove because it got wet and then half an hour later it "suddenly" went on fire, it's time you went and took a class in electricity.
Cheep chargers maybe??
AnonD-77443, 02 Sep 2016No recall in Australia yet but i won't be selling my GN4 in a hurry given the rumors of a reca... moreI wouldn't take the chance, better wait for the next Note, for the meantime, I will tick with my 64GB Note 5.
Guys read this and be alert:
Might as well stick to safety than features.
Note 5 is better.
Looks like a worldwide recall is on the horizon for Note 7 http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/1/12759912/samsung-galaxy-note-7-recall
What a pity it's a good looking phone but obviously was rushed to market by Sammy.
No recall in Australia yet but i won't be selling my GN4 in a hurry given the rumors of a recall :-)
I suspect the problem is limited to a few batteries but we will see. I certainly wouldn't be using a non genuine charger and won't be using the micro USB - UBC-C adapter.