AnonD-100398, 30 Aug 2016what rubbish ! you cannot expect everyone to like 12mp 4:3 square photos .go compair it i rea... moreI never said anyone had to like a 12MP 4:3 photo... If you don't like it just use the 9MP 16:9 option... There is no difference in image quality because the horizontal pixels are the same... Either way the 9MP or 12MP setting on the GN7 beats the 16MP GN5 in good or low light.
AnonD-77443, 30 Aug 2016You missed it so I'll repeat my comment from below TC..... Why are you calling the GN7 brit... morewhy do you keep talking abt phone drops LOL ? as drops was not at all a big concern for my Note5 which has GG4 but when it comes to scratching Note7's gorilla glass 5 goes for a toss you just cannot use it without putting a soft material case and a ugly screen guard.
AnonD-77443, 30 Aug 2016What rubbish. Look at the 16MP and 12MP 100% crops in GSMarenas shootout. If anything the 12MP... morewhat rubbish ! you cannot expect everyone to like 12mp 4:3 square photos .go compair it i real life instead of blaberring here.I am not saying that the photos on note7 are very bad but its not as punchy as my note5. Although i am planning on getting the note7 shortly but that does not mean i sud be happy with whatever it throws at me.
I wud have got the lg g5 or lg v10 for its excellent camera setup but iam also waiting for LGV20 launch as it is expected to come with another excellent 20mp camera and hopefully a f/1.7 like s7 or atleast f/1.8 apreture camera for lowlight conditions
[deleted post]You missed it so I'll repeat my comment from below TC.....
Why are you calling the GN7 brittle?
Phonebuffs mechanical drop tests (most accurate) show the GN5 shatters MORE than the GN7 on the very first drop. The GN7 survived 50 drops and still worked 100%.
As far as drop test durability goes, the GN7 ranked 3rd of all the phones they have tested... the GN5 was a distant 8th..... The GN7 scratches easier but the GN5 is the more brittle, less durable phone.
Note 7 drop test is below.
Note 5 drop test is below.
AnonD-100398, 30 Aug 2016dude i am talking abt 9mp reso however even in 12mp you loose details you are such a hypocrite... moreAs I have pointed out before at the S7 Edge page after frequently using the camera of my wife's S7E - the sensor is the best, sharpest, fastest focusing on a mobile device, ranked #1 by DXoMark Mobile.
And now it's on the Note7, and I got it for the excellent same camera and improved S Pen.
You are the only one complaining about megapixels.
AnonD-100398, 30 Aug 2016dude i am talking abt 9mp reso however even in 12mp you loose details you are such a hypocrite... moreWhat rubbish. Look at the 16MP and 12MP 100% crops in GSMarenas shootout. If anything the 12MP images look sharper than the 16MP. If detail was a problem GSMarena would have mentioned it. Even comparing 16MP to 9MP you won't notice any difference even at 100% on a computer screen or large print.
It doesn't matter which way you put it..... the GN7 camera IS an upgrade on the GN5.
AnonD-77443, 30 Aug 2016Nope, wrong again. GSMarena on stills daylight photography "Winner: Galaxy Note7. All three... moredude i am talking abt 9mp reso however even in 12mp you loose details you are such a hypocrite when i use to saythe same thing from the lowlight shootout between s7 edge and lg g5 when g5 beat the sh!t out of s7 edge in lowlight you were against the entire lowlight review of gsma now just cause you own note7 you are just buying all positive talks .Lol
AnonD-100398, 30 Aug 2016yup! only if you consider the Low light conditions.but
In Daytime Note5 wins handsdown :)Nope, wrong again.
GSMarena on stills daylight photography "Winner: Galaxy Note7. All three phones are equally good in taking daylight photos. The Galaxy Note7, however, offers the widest effective dynamic range in tough light conditions."
i.e., where you have bright and dark areas which is very common in daylight photography.
AnonD-77443, 30 Aug 2016"i am upgrading not downgrading so why can i not expect a better camera on GN7"...
GSMARENA... moreyup! only if you consider the Low light conditions.but
In Daytime Note5 wins handsdown :)
Re the GN7 vs the GN5 camera.
The GSMarena photo quality comparison tool is very handy.
It doesn't matter where you look, good or low light or MP scaled down. The GN7 wins... in lower light it is a thumping.
AnonD-100398, 30 Aug 20169mp cud be ok for you, but u cannot expect everyone to be ok or be happy with it..Its plainly ... more"i am upgrading not downgrading so why can i not expect a better camera on GN7"...
GSMARENA "If you want the best Samsung camera right now, it's the one on the back of the Note7"
AnonD-367917, 30 Aug 2016Megapixel aside for one second....
The photos I take on the Note 7 (IMX260 sensor) poo all ... moreDude i am directly compairing DAYTIME 9mp 16:9 photos and videos of GN7 which has f/1.7 apreture camera to 16mp 16:9 photos and videos of GN5 (not any other smartphone which you generalized) which has f/1.9 apreture camera
If you see closely s7 ,s7 edge,and Note7 photos and videos they loose some details which in turn makes GN5 photos and videos come on top ( In Daytime when most ppl prefer to take pics as it is very obvious that there is more light in daytime and one can expect good photo shoot out)
So for some people who mostly take pics in night time S7,S7 edge and Note7 is great but for many people like me they are just sacrificing more crisp photos of Daytime which we use to get with S6,S6 edge and Note5 and still shoot ok in lowlight if not that clearer like S7,S7 edge or Note7.
The "better low light" vs a little less 12mp 4:3 photos and video details in DAYTIME TRADE OFF is not so good IMO.
and trust me samsung cud have given another great camera to Note7 like i have mentioned in my earlier posts
Pedro-TheNeighbor, 30 Aug 2016I reversed the SIM back - now what?Do it with your brittle phone, film it, upload on YouTube and post the link here. Good luck to your microSD card and SIM card.
AnonD-100398, 30 Aug 20169mp cud be ok for you, but u cannot expect everyone to be ok or be happy with it..Its plainly ... moreMegapixel aside for one second....
The photos I take on the Note 7 (IMX260 sensor) poo all over the photos from Note 4 / 5 (Sony IMX240).
The sensor is capturing noticably more range of light (dynamic range), and the HDR auto mode is working a lot better, and looks to be set for more gradations in shadows..
Some of this (the HDR aspect) could come through a software upgrade to the older phones,.. but the extra dynamic range cannot.
Combined with the ability to save RAW modes,.. software for photo editing can do a lot to render sharper images,.. and working with RAW modes and high powered CPUs (and GPUs in some instances) can give a lot more 'processing power' than what we can expect from on camera 'fast' processing to make a jpeg.
I cannot hammer home enough how important capturing 'rich colour' is to photography.
Until you have printed out a couple of pictures from competing camera sensors, you just cannot see the difference that better light capture makes.
Given we take photos to 'record the moment'; a better recording of that moment might actually matter.
More megapixels doesn't make it a better recording... just allows you to decide that your initial 'crop' of the scene was incorrectly chosen, and that you only want to use a tinier part of the image instead.
Most photographers would rather think ahead to the shot they WANT to capture.
Or we can do it the 'Michael Bay way' and have hundreds of hours (petabytes of data) of footage to 'select from'. There once was a time when hollywood storyboarded their movies and knew what they were trying to convey in each scene...
AnonD-100398, 30 Aug 20169mp cud be ok for you, but u cannot expect everyone to be ok or be happy with it..Its plainly ... more Each time you choose to not hear what the "more megapixel does not mean better quality" people are actually saying just allows you to go on truly uneducated.
By all means: "prefer your higher megapixel count", just do not be dismissive of better sensors!
With a newer sensor often comes improvements in dynamic range, and wider range of usable ISO (sensitivity).
This is for more than just 'low light' photography, but is certainly how most people will attempt to describe one of the benefits this offers.
Simply put; wider dynamic range is 'capturing better colours'/'light' when taking photos.
Spec sheets and 'more megapixel' might 'sound good', but is unlikely to look better than a sensor designed to take 'great photos' (irrelevant of the spec sheet numbers).
Newer sensors in 'camera phones' start to approach aps-c (dslr typically) sensors from over a decade ago in colour reproduction.
To some people who take photos; what the photos LOOK LIKE actually matters.
For all the rest, they can enjoy having 20 megapixel sensors without optical stabilisation, on slower glass, that have to hold the shutter button open for longer (and end up with a blurred image, albeit at, say 16mp... 16 megapixels of blur with ISO artifacts and significantly less colour response. Unless shot in perfect sunlight (whih most actual photographers try to avoid due to the 'harshness' of the light / extremity between the shadow and the highlight detail) which will reduce the blur aspect of a potentially moving target, but will still be missing the dynamic range improvements allowing greater colour recording and better dynamics from light to dark.
Modern sensors, especially ones attempting to do a better job at light capture, are significantly better than older sensors that might quote more megapixels.
But, to each their own....
I still argue that 12mp (or 9mp for widescreen; though I would encourage trying panorama mode with phone held vertically for an extremely detailed widescreen image) with a lens adapter that nets much sharper photo detail than more megapixels ever will, whilst having the benefits of a photo sensor designed for GREAT PHOTOS, is the better camera sensor for majority of people and most occaisions.
Knowing that this phone can take underwater shots,.. better light capturing ability should be paramount; and ALWAYS aids in taking better photos.
Real world usage vs theoretical.
Given that the best monitors don't have 9MP of resolution... and most people never print beyond 6x4", real world argument against using a camera sensor that capture better light is just silly. Given that a sensors' job is TO CAPTURE LIGHT!
AnonD-77443, 30 Aug 2016The 16MP 16:9 photos on the GN4 (5312x2988) used to bug me because the file sizes were really ... more9mp cud be ok for you, but u cannot expect everyone to be ok or be happy with it..Its plainly stupid for me to use 9mp 16:9 photos with less details i mostly use my smartphones camera in daytime .and no! i do not everytime print posters of the pics that i take .its just that i do not like the idea of loosing out on details from my photos ..and the mb size of the photos does not bother me a bit..most Ppl now a days think that just by saying that "mp does not matter" they sound very intellactual.i.e they keep on repeating the same thing..again and again but for me that exta resolution matters and i am upgrading not downgrading so why can i not expect a better camera on GN7 like i mentioned in my previous post
AnonD-77443, 30 Aug 2016Why are you calling the GN7 brittle?
Phonebuffs mechanical drop tests (most accurate) show ... moreI have seen those videos too! GN7 screen has gorilla glass 5 however it is a bit soft and is scratch prone than previous gorilla glaas 4 although GG5 can take more drops as its a bit flexible and soft without shatterring the screen when compaired to GG4 but the edges still gives GN7 a disadvatage as it may start to crack from there(i.e i wanted flat screen GN7 modal as well) you might also know that even the GG4 can also take drops.
So if you see scratching a screen is a more comman scenario than dropping the phone i have never used and never liked to use a scratch guard on any of my smartphones screen but with GG5 i have got no option left but to use screen guard and not only on the front but at back also as GN7 is also covered with GG5 from its back.
AnonD-100398, 30 Aug 2016Note7 is just the same as G S7 edge with a spen I hated s7 and s7 edge for its camera and was ... moreThen just stay with the Note.5 for the camera you love. For your information, the S Pen can still place marks on the curved edges.