AnonD-197784, 13 Oct 2017**FINALLY Had to charge it for extended period as recommended on first charge. Nice animati... moreThis is a typical view of an android from an iPhone user's perspective. They won't come out of the walled mindset Apple forces its users into and write these kind of reviews whenever provided a chance to use a different ecosystem. Everything, Apple does it better, always comparing android with iOS. iOS does this and that better. Everybody knows how an android phone works compared to an iPhone. There is no need to buy a Note 8 and start complaining about it lacking iOS traits. I see you have an iPad and MacBook Pro, the best thing you could have done is buy an iPhone X, instead of buying Note 8 and iPhone 8 Plus and avoided your pain of using an Android and expecting android to be a closed source. Simple, you like and want to be in iOS ecosystem, head straight to Apple store. Don't say my Note 8 isn't behaving like an iPhone so Note 8 is unworthy of flagship price....
Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017Just a little reminder the oldest device now to get iOS 11? Is the iPhone 5s which was release... moreI'm not sure what "resistance" you are talking about, realising that investing in the Android Ecosystem is a waste of my money on the very short run isn't resistance, it's wisdom.
I have a Priv that was almost the same price as the Note at release. Now Blackberry says it won't support it anymore, same goes for DTek series and calls them "transitional" and "test" devices. The truth is that Only Google can effectively optimize its own hardware with its own Android OS. The competition makes them able to dictate what happens to any OEM running their software and even sabotage if need be.
Same thing goes with Microsoft; they started their hardware and now are cutting off support from some OEM windows 10 laptops/tablets. And you can't compare how well the windows 10 works on any of the Microsoft Surface line up with other OEMs success as Dell, IBM etc.
My choice is Apple - it simply works! They might not have the excessive gimmicks that people hardly use BUT they are highly optimized, fluid, secure and offer a degree of sophistication you can't get from anywhere else.
And even if you are a paid Samsung person with your new account (I suspect) I already have my take on Amazon Verified Purchases reviews from my seller.
The truth had to be told. Android users are the products not the customers. I need more control, security and peace of mind than that.
It's my legal right to let people know it's not a practical phone at that price. Especially when it loses support next year. I own a Note 8 and that is my view.
Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017Just a little reminder the oldest device now to get iOS 11? Is the iPhone 5s which was release... moreIt's not an argument. It's my take on Samsung android phones and what I need.
I'm going for a phone with a balanced ecosystem, secure and fully optimized. I'm going all in on Apple products. The Note 8 is simply for WhatsApp, some browsing and calls.
There's a phone for everyone, having the Note 8 has helped me make up my mind on what matters and what's worth me investing in.
Anonymous, 14 Oct 2017Buy iPhone, not Android. Why complain if you buy?Its my review. I'm not complaining. Thats what this place is for. I have it and that's my take and conclusion on the GN8
The Note8 is the best smartphone at the moment. No other has a Wacom pen.
Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017Just a little reminder the oldest device now to get iOS 11? Is the iPhone 5s which was release... morePlease do stick around on these boards. You're making more sense than majority of the children to be contended here.
Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017Just a little reminder the oldest device now to get iOS 11? Is the iPhone 5s which was release... moreiOS updates on older devices is meant to slow them down. Nevermind "security" updates. Battery even drains faster on the iPhone 7 with the recent iOS update. A push for Apple fans to get the 8.
AnonD-197784, 13 Oct 2017Having a backlog of the older handsets is not the same as them pushing updates because they ca... moreJust a little reminder the oldest device now to get iOS 11? Is the iPhone 5s which was released late Nov 2013 pretty much 2014... so basically a year older whoopity-doo... will it run well on iOS 11... unlikely more likely it will force users to buy a new iPhone because how exceedingly slow and outdated it is... just like with most iOS updates on aging devices...
So is it a big win... ? Nope... is it a big joke? Yep
It's not even that I'm adverse to iOS devices it's just annoying how some people are so wildly misinformed... and they spread their own personal distaste without exploring the reality of things... I love my iPad Pro 12.2 it's great... I picked it over Samsungs newest line of tablets including the galaxy book and tab s3...
I just can't let people's extremely biased and unfactual opinion slide by without equal and opposite equality of facts. I'm an everything fan and choose to look at things with a very open mind rather than quarantine myself in the name of one resistance.
Considering that your opinion is that older devices receiving security updates doesn't matter... well iOS devices not receiving the newest iOS updates do not even receive security updates so... consider that for a moment.
Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017How many security patches have I gotten for my Note 5 in 2017? January, February, April, May a... moreThose updates and works were slated for their Note 7 and the Note 5 got them because the Note 7 was recalled and they couldn't leave their customers hanging.
How come Note FE gets the 7.1 and the Note 5 won't or even Oreo?
I get my facts from what I experience and expect. My Note 5 wasn't my only phone, the Priv had been my main Comms hub for secure Comms. And now blackberry says no Nougat (in 2017) for Priv and the security updates will cease after a short period. They called them "transitional" devices and our money was for their tests.
I'm done with Android, no guarantees anywhere and even the 2 year update thing will change I'm sure when the X comes. It's all business to them. Here I apologize to @Thyneighbor; he said that first.
AnonD-197784, 13 Oct 2017And how many times do you see such updates being sent on a regular bases?? Except for Android ... moreHow many security patches have I gotten for my Note 5 in 2017? January, February, April, May and August, already expecting further updates as there has already been evidence of such...
So pretty damn good for a 2015 device... again where are you getting literally any of what you are saying? It's certainly not from personal experience.
They usually wait until sales have calmed down for their newest devices to update older devices as to not effect sales of newer devices... this is how it has almost always been... so my expectations are pretty high... this isn't my first rodeo.
Will I be mad if a stop receiving full blown android updates after 3 years ? Nope i can afford to get a new device every 3-4 years because it's honestly I can afford it, most other people can too... and if not you can always buy cheaper android devices that are 1/10th of the price at a more frequent turn over rate that have the latest android update and security patch.
Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017Last Note 5 patch was for the Blueborne exploit which affected ALL devices including windows a... moreHaving a backlog of the older handsets is not the same as them pushing updates because they care about the "customers"
I agree my Note 5 is on Android 7 (they didn't have a choice because that was their flagship note after note 7 fiasco), now we have Note 8 and it comes with the coveted dual messaging feature, so I guess I can have it on my Note 5?? Wrong! They made it only for their handsets with Android 7.1 (Not Android 7) and a couple of other features too.
And officially, apart from their 2016/2017 phones, none else is getting the 7.1
Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017Last Note 5 patch was for the Blueborne exploit which affected ALL devices including windows a... moreAnd how many times do you see such updates being sent on a regular bases?? Except for Android based blackberry "flagship" phones, some of which are lagging behind on the monthly security updates
Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017Samsung manufactures a lot more of the onboard hardware in their line of phones than Apple doe... moreTypo. My Note 5.
Also, the reason updates even came to the Note 5 was because they had to keep it updated after they recalled the Note 7.
If not for that, the Note 5 will have the fate of S5 or S4 at this time. What do you think will happen to S8 plus when barely 6 months down the line s9 is already a reality???
Don't ever compare a phone whose OS is built by its manufacturer to one whose OS is built, moderated and controlled by a competing OEM.
Why do you think some "trusted" reviewers on Google's YouTube are all of a sudden pushing Pixel 2 XL Vs Note 8, and critical of Bixby and always saying they like the "clean" android and "faster" update of the Google's Pixel??
AnonD-197784, 13 Oct 2017I won't argue with you BUT would let you know that why I'm not giving up my note 8 to keep my ... moreLast Note 5 patch was for the Blueborne exploit which affected ALL devices including windows and iOS FYI... which it was patched very quickly may I add... so I'm not sure you even own a Note 5 but I doubt it.
Also you misunderstand the difference between security patches and full blown updates... galaxy s5 is still on marshmallow and still receiving security patches... Samsung is actually one of the better Android oem's and the reason for their longevity of security patches? Because wireless carriers still sell galaxy phones all the way back the the galaxy s4 still to this day... and until they stop selling them they will continue to receive security updates that's is not an opinion but a fact.
AnonD-197784, 13 Oct 2017Except they run on Samsung own OS, it becomes useless within a while, remember Google has its ... moreExploits are primarily hardware based... it's why one root method may work for one android device yet very few others... in actuality most android devices aren't even similar software wise as they have differences in storage locations and methods and are extremely fractured... which usually is a down side yet as far as security goes it can strangely be beneficial as most hacks only work on select devices and are only ever very rarely effective on a large target audience....
I've dabbled in this myself... more as an exploration of interest... Apple exploits hit a far larger audience and are worth a lot more.
Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017Samsung manufactures a lot more of the onboard hardware in their line of phones than Apple doe... moreI won't argue with you BUT would let you know that why I'm not giving up my note 8 to keep my S5 is because Note 5 and Samsung S5 are already dead to Samsung and won't get beyond Android 7. Not even 7.1 and will cease ANY security "patch" IF any.
By the way, the last I received any update from Samsung in the Note 5 had nothing to do with security.