DNeighbor, 01 Aug 2017"Apple's pace" is for them waiting for what Android features seem to be working/innovative and... moreAt this rate, it might take you a minute to realise that Windows is sinking very quickly
Tech.Chief, 01 Aug 2017Expensive globally! And in my opinion worth it eventually - Im still thinking of an android de... moreAnd special mention about removing the headphone jack on the iPhone, yet it's still on iPads and MacBooks. The lightning earphones could only be used on the iPhone. They really want you spending $180 more for Airpods. That's the price for "courage".
It would take 6 weeks for Airpods to arrive... Is this the Apple ecosystem you keep bragging about?
Meanwhile, Note8 still has the jack. I'm a Bluetooth earphone user, but the jack comes in useful when I need it when I run out of battery, or connecting to my home audio.
Tech.Chief, 01 Aug 2017Still I insist that the Apple Ecosystem is way more sophisticated, secure and fluid than the A... more"Apple's pace" is for them waiting for what Android features seem to be working/innovative and include to the iOS.
Apple will never place the Apple Pencil to work on any iPhone, nor they allow touch screen functions on their MacBook, nor allow mouse integration with their iPad Pro... Is this the ideal ecosystem you are bragging about? Apple wants you to think you need all their products - that's how you end up spending triple more.
Yet you NEED Android to do your business and not "more secured" Apple. Just funny. You know what, I'll go get myself a Surface Pro and new Alienware laptop. There's a reason why 95% of computer users use Windows.
Someone here forgot the Mac and iOS are still vulnerable to viruses.
Another one removed from the potential buy list due to the incompetence of the designers putting the fingerprint sensor where it is. Oh well the search goes on...
ivanm, 01 Aug 2017sure in usa canada etc..
in my country apple devices are very very expensive.. example, i hav... moreExpensive globally! And in my opinion worth it eventually - Im still thinking of an android device that size you can use with one hand conveniently - little things like that and you almost forget a phone can ever lag. Premium software, premium hardware.
Samsung should create an environment within android offering premium, fluid and secure mobile computing.
Unfortunately their first effort at going at their ecosystem which is Bixby has been met by "paid" and "unpaid" criticism.
sure in usa canada etc..
in my country apple devices are very very expensive.. example, i have ip7, but if i want macbook pro i must spend 3 month salary at all..
DNeighbor, 01 Aug 2017And you just compared the iPhone 7 with the worst-hardware Galaxy Note (no memory expansion, t... moreStill I insist that the Apple Ecosystem is way more sophisticated, secure and fluid than the Android.
My part of the world, the computing environment is predominantly Windows and Android, hence the choice.
Apple is way more than its hardware - which is receiving a "quickening" due to hardware preferences and showcasing from Android and Windows OEMs.
Its all relative.
Imagine IF a Note 8 comes with an IOS version/model. So Apple has its pace and for me, their ecosystem is way more secure, fluid and practical.
Tech.Chief, 01 Aug 2017Seamless integration with the ipad and macbook. Plus more advanced and user friendly features ... moreAnd you just compared the iPhone 7 with the worst-hardware Galaxy Note (no memory expansion, trying to be iPhone) to have been ever produced... Nothing has rivaled the Isocell cameras of the S7 and S8 with the fastest focusing and sharpest pictures.
You said it, your business operating needs Android can cover. Apple has no intention of cross platform wireless file transfers. iPads can be paired with a BT keyboard but not with a mouse, not even its own Magic Mouse? Yes, despite that, I'm getting it due its drawing performance.
Sorry, MacBook Pro can't run Revit, Rhino - which I need for my design work. I can't appreciate half-baked overpriced less-features eye-candy metal-cladded laptops. Apple laptops are only for the masses who aren't doing 3D production. I can't even connect it to an external Graphics card accelerator. Not even touch screen function is there.
DNeighbor, 01 Aug 2017All but the exception of the small percentage of battery manufacturing mistake, the Note7's ca... moreAnd another thing is the general fluidity and practicality of the iPhone is addictive. Its a more serious and business-like gadget and the Apple ecosystem is way more sophisticated.
This generally makes Android feel like a struggle and a cloned environment. Samsung is trying hard to channel out an environment in the Android community, offering new and improved email and security features.
Like I said, it all comes down to what ecosystem works for you on a daily basis and for your business uses.
DNeighbor, 01 Aug 2017All but the exception of the small percentage of battery manufacturing mistake, the Note7's ca... moreSeamless integration with the ipad and macbook. Plus more advanced and user friendly features in the Apple Ecosystem.
Like I said, my businesses and uses are more on the Android ecosystem which makes the Tab S3 and the Note 8 my ideal combo.
By the way, the iPhone 7 Plus Camera is way better than on my Note 5.
Tech.Chief, 31 Jul 2017Good points - only mostly hardware related. Like I pointed out, there's more to Apple than the... moreAll but the exception of the small percentage of battery manufacturing mistake, the Note7's capabilities and features are far from what the current iPhone is offering... Zoom lens useless in my book. Still has NO split screen. There is nothing that is compelling me to get an iPhone except the choice of a 256GB of internal space - which cost so much more. I'm not holding my breath for expensive under-features devices.
I buy a Galaxy Note mainly because its S Pen - an active digitizer pressure-sensitive pen - tremendously useful for jotting notes and sketching ideas. Very convenient than whipping out my bigger Galaxy Note 8.0. Yeah, Apple has the Pencil, and I'm planning to get the iPad Pro 12.9 2017 to update my bigger screen sketching needs, but Apple never wants to gut out its own Pro line-up by providing Pencil function on the iPhone. Just like they don't allow phone call functions on its iPad even if it can connect to phone networks. Never.
So, what are you looking forward to the iOS 11 update that will blow away the Note8?
DNeighbor, 31 Jul 2017Oh wow. During iPhone 4 days, iPhone couldn't do more than 100 things that an Android smartpho... moreGood points - only mostly hardware related. Like I pointed out, there's more to Apple than the hardware - its the operating environment.
Note 8 will be like any other Android flagship - A flash in the pan in a few months.
Apple has its pace - but mostly in its environment than hardware. But like you said, the Samsung S and Note hype is making them double up on the hardware now.
The Note 8 will be inferior to the iPhone 8 when its launched. Watch
Tech.Chief, 30 Jul 2017The Note 8 will be more accessible and affordable BUT will NEVER be able to compete with Apple... moreOh wow. During iPhone 4 days, iPhone couldn't do more than 100 things that an Android smartphone can.
No memory expansion, no file explorer, and no dual SIM shots are the longest running features that aren't in the iPhone, yet wouldn't be useful if it had them till today. Only now Apple is considering OLED screen - since years of Galaxy S and Microsoft Lumia.
A lot of those more than 100 things iPhones couldn't do are being copied over from Android, even the sizes of the screens. Pretty soon, split screen functions and a mini Apple Pencil will be on the iPhone Plus.
Hey, competition makes things better. I love Apple for just catching up so Android manufacturers are the ones innovating the industry even more, and now they're using OLED screens. I can imagine how battery life will be so great on the new iPhone. I might consider getting one when it finally has a pen.
Mobileman, 31 Jul 2017Cant see the display only being 5'7 inches when the s8+ is 6'2, with the new infinity display ... moreIt will be a failure if it features anything less than 6.3" screen. Even at that screen size its still an ergonomic disaster for 60% of the current note users
Cant see the display only being 5'7 inches when the s8+ is 6'2, with the new infinity display they hardly need any body around the screen so expect probably more than a 6'2 screen