Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017Just a little reminder the oldest device now to get iOS 11? Is the iPhone 5s which was release... morePlease do stick around on these boards. You're making more sense than majority of the children to be contended here.
Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017Just a little reminder the oldest device now to get iOS 11? Is the iPhone 5s which was release... moreiOS updates on older devices is meant to slow them down. Nevermind "security" updates. Battery even drains faster on the iPhone 7 with the recent iOS update. A push for Apple fans to get the 8.
Tech.Chief, 13 Oct 2017Having a backlog of the older handsets is not the same as them pushing updates because they ca... moreJust a little reminder the oldest device now to get iOS 11? Is the iPhone 5s which was released late Nov 2013 pretty much 2014... so basically a year older whoopity-doo... will it run well on iOS 11... unlikely more likely it will force users to buy a new iPhone because how exceedingly slow and outdated it is... just like with most iOS updates on aging devices...
So is it a big win... ? Nope... is it a big joke? Yep
It's not even that I'm adverse to iOS devices it's just annoying how some people are so wildly misinformed... and they spread their own personal distaste without exploring the reality of things... I love my iPad Pro 12.2 it's great... I picked it over Samsungs newest line of tablets including the galaxy book and tab s3...
I just can't let people's extremely biased and unfactual opinion slide by without equal and opposite equality of facts. I'm an everything fan and choose to look at things with a very open mind rather than quarantine myself in the name of one resistance.
Considering that your opinion is that older devices receiving security updates doesn't matter... well iOS devices not receiving the newest iOS updates do not even receive security updates so... consider that for a moment.
Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017How many security patches have I gotten for my Note 5 in 2017? January, February, April, May a... moreThose updates and works were slated for their Note 7 and the Note 5 got them because the Note 7 was recalled and they couldn't leave their customers hanging.
How come Note FE gets the 7.1 and the Note 5 won't or even Oreo?
I get my facts from what I experience and expect. My Note 5 wasn't my only phone, the Priv had been my main Comms hub for secure Comms. And now blackberry says no Nougat (in 2017) for Priv and the security updates will cease after a short period. They called them "transitional" devices and our money was for their tests.
I'm done with Android, no guarantees anywhere and even the 2 year update thing will change I'm sure when the X comes. It's all business to them. Here I apologize to @Thyneighbor; he said that first.
Tech.Chief, 13 Oct 2017And how many times do you see such updates being sent on a regular bases?? Except for Android ... moreHow many security patches have I gotten for my Note 5 in 2017? January, February, April, May and August, already expecting further updates as there has already been evidence of such...
So pretty damn good for a 2015 device... again where are you getting literally any of what you are saying? It's certainly not from personal experience.
They usually wait until sales have calmed down for their newest devices to update older devices as to not effect sales of newer devices... this is how it has almost always been... so my expectations are pretty high... this isn't my first rodeo.
Will I be mad if a stop receiving full blown android updates after 3 years ? Nope i can afford to get a new device every 3-4 years because it's honestly I can afford it, most other people can too... and if not you can always buy cheaper android devices that are 1/10th of the price at a more frequent turn over rate that have the latest android update and security patch.
Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017Last Note 5 patch was for the Blueborne exploit which affected ALL devices including windows a... moreHaving a backlog of the older handsets is not the same as them pushing updates because they care about the "customers"
I agree my Note 5 is on Android 7 (they didn't have a choice because that was their flagship note after note 7 fiasco), now we have Note 8 and it comes with the coveted dual messaging feature, so I guess I can have it on my Note 5?? Wrong! They made it only for their handsets with Android 7.1 (Not Android 7) and a couple of other features too.
And officially, apart from their 2016/2017 phones, none else is getting the 7.1
Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017Last Note 5 patch was for the Blueborne exploit which affected ALL devices including windows a... moreAnd how many times do you see such updates being sent on a regular bases?? Except for Android based blackberry "flagship" phones, some of which are lagging behind on the monthly security updates
Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017Samsung manufactures a lot more of the onboard hardware in their line of phones than Apple doe... moreTypo. My Note 5.
Also, the reason updates even came to the Note 5 was because they had to keep it updated after they recalled the Note 7.
If not for that, the Note 5 will have the fate of S5 or S4 at this time. What do you think will happen to S8 plus when barely 6 months down the line s9 is already a reality???
Don't ever compare a phone whose OS is built by its manufacturer to one whose OS is built, moderated and controlled by a competing OEM.
Why do you think some "trusted" reviewers on Google's YouTube are all of a sudden pushing Pixel 2 XL Vs Note 8, and critical of Bixby and always saying they like the "clean" android and "faster" update of the Google's Pixel??
Tech.Chief, 13 Oct 2017I won't argue with you BUT would let you know that why I'm not giving up my note 8 to keep my ... moreLast Note 5 patch was for the Blueborne exploit which affected ALL devices including windows and iOS FYI... which it was patched very quickly may I add... so I'm not sure you even own a Note 5 but I doubt it.
Also you misunderstand the difference between security patches and full blown updates... galaxy s5 is still on marshmallow and still receiving security patches... Samsung is actually one of the better Android oem's and the reason for their longevity of security patches? Because wireless carriers still sell galaxy phones all the way back the the galaxy s4 still to this day... and until they stop selling them they will continue to receive security updates that's is not an opinion but a fact.
Tech.Chief, 13 Oct 2017Except they run on Samsung own OS, it becomes useless within a while, remember Google has its ... moreExploits are primarily hardware based... it's why one root method may work for one android device yet very few others... in actuality most android devices aren't even similar software wise as they have differences in storage locations and methods and are extremely fractured... which usually is a down side yet as far as security goes it can strangely be beneficial as most hacks only work on select devices and are only ever very rarely effective on a large target audience....
I've dabbled in this myself... more as an exploration of interest... Apple exploits hit a far larger audience and are worth a lot more.
Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017Samsung manufactures a lot more of the onboard hardware in their line of phones than Apple doe... moreI won't argue with you BUT would let you know that why I'm not giving up my note 8 to keep my S5 is because Note 5 and Samsung S5 are already dead to Samsung and won't get beyond Android 7. Not even 7.1 and will cease ANY security "patch" IF any.
By the way, the last I received any update from Samsung in the Note 5 had nothing to do with security.
Tech.Chief, 13 Oct 2017Yes you are right!
I got that from onion news. While your android "manufacturers" build pho... moreSamsung manufactures a lot more of the onboard hardware in their line of phones than Apple does, Apple neither manufactures nor assembles their devices, better do a little more research perhaps?
Secondly even the 2014 galaxy s5 which is over 2 years old is still receiving the most recent security patches so where exactly are you getting your facts?
Plenty of people are finding new breaches for the iPhone as well what is your point exactly... if anything the iPhone is one of the most popular devices for hackers to mess around with because all the hardware is the same meaning they hit a bigger audience with less effort... one that spends the most as well... Apple users are prime targets.
Hey Buddy, 13 Oct 2017If you have a Note 5 or any other tablet device you're looking to upgrade, you may want to hol... moreExcept they run on Samsung own OS, it becomes useless within a while, remember Google has its own hardware and will push people to it even if it means sabotage
Microsoft because of their own hardware now announced they will discontinue support for some windows 10 devices (out of the blues), ever wondered why surface pro and book line up have quick automatic updates for ANY customer complaints, while the same still persists on your ThinkPad and Spectre??
Tech.Chief, 13 Oct 2017First I'm aware of that, second it's a gimmick, third it only covers parts of an app stored an... moreIf you're complaining so much about Android and bought the S8+and Note8, why didn't you get the latest iPhones? Use VPN. Don't side install anything. Don't use Wi-Fi. Not even Bluetooth - use physical earphones. OMG.
Or just stop buying Android devices. WASTE your money on iOS then with "the most advanced iPhone we have ever made".
Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017"98% if breaches are done via the internet or even via Bluetooth or WiFi"... showing how littl... moreYes you are right!
I got that from onion news. While your android "manufacturers" build phones and not even update (Xiaomi mi mix is still stuck on marshmallow) Note series won't get anymore updates further than 2 years.
And for apps you are not in charge of how do you keep up with security "patches"??
You need to be well researched before posting things that make you appear as you type. I have a Note 8 and I also have an Apple 6s plus. The note is expensive but runs an OS not built or moderated by Samsung while the 6s plus runs an OS built, moderated and controlled by the hardware manufacturer Apple
So don't talk what you don't know. Learn before typing crap.
A hacker can buy 10 android handsets for 500$ and practice on countless number of apps (which we will download) cos it's an open pass with minimal or no scrutiny.
Most people don't even know what security "patches" are because it's not regular, and majorly doesn't exist on android
If you have a Note 5 or any other tablet device you're looking to upgrade, you may want to hold off on purchasing a Note 8 or even the Galaxy S9. Samsung has completed a number of certifications for their model SM-G888N0. It's rumored to be the Galaxy X or Galaxy Note X, a foldable smartphone/tablet which should debut early to mid 2018. This will be a game changer within the smartphone and tablet world. Check it out!
Tech.Chief, 13 Oct 2017First I'm aware of that, second it's a gimmick, third it only covers parts of an app stored an... moreIf you're complaining so much about Android and bought the S8+and Note8, why didn't you get the latest iPhones? Stop buying Android devices.
Tech.Chief, 13 Oct 2017First I'm aware of that, second it's a gimmick, third it only covers parts of an app stored an... more"98% if breaches are done via the internet or even via Bluetooth or WiFi"... showing how little you actually know... where'd you get that statistic the onion news?
Also just an FYI most android manufacturers still send out security patches years after they stop officially updating a device, which is why my Galaxy Note 5 is currently on the latest security patch available and still receives monthly patches...
Be honest you don't work for a mobile security company everything you say smells of.... well you already know.
Android has encryption, the play store has been updated with new security patches that do routine scans on all apps running on your device and monitors their usage data... this includes older devices as well... you sound like you haven't used Android since froyo.
Having an open device only makes you more susceptible if you are a novice user, you can make android a lot more secure than iOS if you know what your doing. The freedom is both a blessing and a curse.
wasox, 13 Oct 2017When you put an app in knox, as a file manager for example, all of its activity is only acce... moreFirst I'm aware of that, second it's a gimmick, third it only covers parts of an app stored and not the parts when in use.
It's Android, and Android is NOT built to be a closed system. What Samsung offered is what parallel space offered and what Samsung can monitor is what parallel space can monitor.
Knox is a gimmick portraying a protected space on a phone - in this case the apps are not made to Knox specs (because there was none)
Securing physical access to your phone is rubbish because 98% if breaches are done via the internet or even via Bluetooth or WiFi - that's how porous Android is.