Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017Samsung manufactures a lot more of the onboard hardware in their line of phones than Apple doe... moreTypo. My Note 5.
Also, the reason updates even came to the Note 5 was because they had to keep it updated after they recalled the Note 7.
If not for that, the Note 5 will have the fate of S5 or S4 at this time. What do you think will happen to S8 plus when barely 6 months down the line s9 is already a reality???
Don't ever compare a phone whose OS is built by its manufacturer to one whose OS is built, moderated and controlled by a competing OEM.
Why do you think some "trusted" reviewers on Google's YouTube are all of a sudden pushing Pixel 2 XL Vs Note 8, and critical of Bixby and always saying they like the "clean" android and "faster" update of the Google's Pixel??
Tech.Chief, 13 Oct 2017I won't argue with you BUT would let you know that why I'm not giving up my note 8 to keep my ... moreLast Note 5 patch was for the Blueborne exploit which affected ALL devices including windows and iOS FYI... which it was patched very quickly may I add... so I'm not sure you even own a Note 5 but I doubt it.
Also you misunderstand the difference between security patches and full blown updates... galaxy s5 is still on marshmallow and still receiving security patches... Samsung is actually one of the better Android oem's and the reason for their longevity of security patches? Because wireless carriers still sell galaxy phones all the way back the the galaxy s4 still to this day... and until they stop selling them they will continue to receive security updates that's is not an opinion but a fact.
Tech.Chief, 13 Oct 2017Except they run on Samsung own OS, it becomes useless within a while, remember Google has its ... moreExploits are primarily hardware based... it's why one root method may work for one android device yet very few others... in actuality most android devices aren't even similar software wise as they have differences in storage locations and methods and are extremely fractured... which usually is a down side yet as far as security goes it can strangely be beneficial as most hacks only work on select devices and are only ever very rarely effective on a large target audience....
I've dabbled in this myself... more as an exploration of interest... Apple exploits hit a far larger audience and are worth a lot more.
Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017Samsung manufactures a lot more of the onboard hardware in their line of phones than Apple doe... moreI won't argue with you BUT would let you know that why I'm not giving up my note 8 to keep my S5 is because Note 5 and Samsung S5 are already dead to Samsung and won't get beyond Android 7. Not even 7.1 and will cease ANY security "patch" IF any.
By the way, the last I received any update from Samsung in the Note 5 had nothing to do with security.
Tech.Chief, 13 Oct 2017Yes you are right!
I got that from onion news. While your android "manufacturers" build pho... moreSamsung manufactures a lot more of the onboard hardware in their line of phones than Apple does, Apple neither manufactures nor assembles their devices, better do a little more research perhaps?
Secondly even the 2014 galaxy s5 which is over 2 years old is still receiving the most recent security patches so where exactly are you getting your facts?
Plenty of people are finding new breaches for the iPhone as well what is your point exactly... if anything the iPhone is one of the most popular devices for hackers to mess around with because all the hardware is the same meaning they hit a bigger audience with less effort... one that spends the most as well... Apple users are prime targets.
Hey Buddy, 13 Oct 2017If you have a Note 5 or any other tablet device you're looking to upgrade, you may want to hol... moreExcept they run on Samsung own OS, it becomes useless within a while, remember Google has its own hardware and will push people to it even if it means sabotage
Microsoft because of their own hardware now announced they will discontinue support for some windows 10 devices (out of the blues), ever wondered why surface pro and book line up have quick automatic updates for ANY customer complaints, while the same still persists on your ThinkPad and Spectre??
Tech.Chief, 13 Oct 2017First I'm aware of that, second it's a gimmick, third it only covers parts of an app stored an... moreIf you're complaining so much about Android and bought the S8+and Note8, why didn't you get the latest iPhones? Use VPN. Don't side install anything. Don't use Wi-Fi. Not even Bluetooth - use physical earphones. OMG.
Or just stop buying Android devices. WASTE your money on iOS then with "the most advanced iPhone we have ever made".
Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017"98% if breaches are done via the internet or even via Bluetooth or WiFi"... showing how littl... moreYes you are right!
I got that from onion news. While your android "manufacturers" build phones and not even update (Xiaomi mi mix is still stuck on marshmallow) Note series won't get anymore updates further than 2 years.
And for apps you are not in charge of how do you keep up with security "patches"??
You need to be well researched before posting things that make you appear as you type. I have a Note 8 and I also have an Apple 6s plus. The note is expensive but runs an OS not built or moderated by Samsung while the 6s plus runs an OS built, moderated and controlled by the hardware manufacturer Apple
So don't talk what you don't know. Learn before typing crap.
A hacker can buy 10 android handsets for 500$ and practice on countless number of apps (which we will download) cos it's an open pass with minimal or no scrutiny.
Most people don't even know what security "patches" are because it's not regular, and majorly doesn't exist on android
If you have a Note 5 or any other tablet device you're looking to upgrade, you may want to hold off on purchasing a Note 8 or even the Galaxy S9. Samsung has completed a number of certifications for their model SM-G888N0. It's rumored to be the Galaxy X or Galaxy Note X, a foldable smartphone/tablet which should debut early to mid 2018. This will be a game changer within the smartphone and tablet world. Check it out!
Tech.Chief, 13 Oct 2017First I'm aware of that, second it's a gimmick, third it only covers parts of an app stored an... moreIf you're complaining so much about Android and bought the S8+and Note8, why didn't you get the latest iPhones? Stop buying Android devices.
Tech.Chief, 13 Oct 2017First I'm aware of that, second it's a gimmick, third it only covers parts of an app stored an... more"98% if breaches are done via the internet or even via Bluetooth or WiFi"... showing how little you actually know... where'd you get that statistic the onion news?
Also just an FYI most android manufacturers still send out security patches years after they stop officially updating a device, which is why my Galaxy Note 5 is currently on the latest security patch available and still receives monthly patches...
Be honest you don't work for a mobile security company everything you say smells of.... well you already know.
Android has encryption, the play store has been updated with new security patches that do routine scans on all apps running on your device and monitors their usage data... this includes older devices as well... you sound like you haven't used Android since froyo.
Having an open device only makes you more susceptible if you are a novice user, you can make android a lot more secure than iOS if you know what your doing. The freedom is both a blessing and a curse.
wasox, 13 Oct 2017When you put an app in knox, as a file manager for example, all of its activity is only acce... moreFirst I'm aware of that, second it's a gimmick, third it only covers parts of an app stored and not the parts when in use.
It's Android, and Android is NOT built to be a closed system. What Samsung offered is what parallel space offered and what Samsung can monitor is what parallel space can monitor.
Knox is a gimmick portraying a protected space on a phone - in this case the apps are not made to Knox specs (because there was none)
Securing physical access to your phone is rubbish because 98% if breaches are done via the internet or even via Bluetooth or WiFi - that's how porous Android is.
Tech.Chief, 13 Oct 2017Funny enough as an IT professional, I understand platform security and general computing. I al... moreWhen you put an app in knox, as a file manager for example, all of its activity is only accesible through knox, you can even have the same app in two versions, outside and inside knox
Got mine today in the afternoon, unboxed it (same experience as the Note FE) and I have to say, it looks good in all black. Put a black background on it and it looks great.
But even after a couple times hands on experience, using it now for a longer time gives me a strange feeling. It feels so narrow. Not in balance. Too tall, too narrow. I really have to get used to that, it just feels weird for now coming from the 16:9 aspect ratio and size. Everything else is in par with the Note FE I have since a couple of months, S pen works good and the screen is amazing. Not a fan of Android after using Windows Phone and Windows 10 for years and years. So far I am positive about this phone in general.
wasox, 13 Oct 2017Well have you heard abiut the KNOX feature of your note 8? As long as you do not root your pho... moreFunny enough as an IT professional, I understand platform security and general computing. I also know that an OEM security app or measure only applies to their own software.
The Note 8 runs Android, Android is owned by Google. 95% of the apps you will use on your phone are NOT Samsung coded but downloaded from Google Play - which again is NOT owned, moderated or controlled by Samsung.
Knox or the "secure" space the Samsung flagship offers is for their apps and being open, codes are always readily written to bypass such, hence the need for constant updates and guess what...
Tech.Chief, 13 Oct 2017**FINALLY Had to charge it for extended period as recommended on first charge. Nice animati... moreWell have you heard abiut the KNOX feature of your note 8? As long as you do not root your phone, it is secure
Anonymous, 13 Oct 2017from this long review your problem is the case . You need to set this phone up . You are on an... moreI know it's on 7.1. it's the Note 5 that I mentioned will not get 7.1 or 8.0. Unlike Apple's iPhones that updates all their handsets.
A $50 case isn't my problem. The non practical $1000 phone that runs a mediocre and unsecure OS is.
Tech.Chief, 13 Oct 2017**FINALLY Had to charge it for extended period as recommended on first charge. Nice animati... morefrom this long review your problem is the case . You need to set this phone up . You are on android 7-1.1 not 7.0
Had to charge it for extended period as recommended on first charge. Nice animation for Wireless Charging like the S8+.
First impressions: (owning an S8+ and a note 5) This is a squared off S8+ with 2 cameras (for whatever reason?) And an SPen.
The hardware practicality is a bit better than the S8+ but still can't work till you have a case; I find it still too narrow for me especially at the time I would want to hold it without a case.
The curved edges are more pronounced in real life than in reviews or pictures. It's also very slippery and impossible to hold comfortably after a few minutes.
Switching on and setup strikes me Samsung is aiming at having its own customisation or eventually its own OS - With Bixby you should always be online or it becomes a problem especially when mistakenly hit that button.
It's a nightmare to reach the top of a page or menu when using with one hand.
For my work and business I do a lot of emailing and setting up the Samsung mail and testing it out showed a below average email app - it's not a real time or intuitive app for a serious business user (regardless of the setting). Downloading a 3rd party email app introduces Ads and phishing wares which is not good for me.
The fingerprint sensor location I thought would be a problem is not that much of an issue when you have the other hand ready to catch the phone - it's not a practical thing for me as I have to always mind carefully especially with one hand.
Overall I find it better than the Note 5 because Samsung has officially stated that none of their phones will get support for more than 2 years, so Note 5 won't get Oreo or even 7.1.
Have spent almost an hour customizing this set to get a better keyboard and find out my downloads are bringing more lags (yes. Without an SD card I'm already having lags). Shocking thing is that Samsung officially allows some ads on the Samsung "internet" which means as I just checked for some items on OLX, I'm seeing their ads with my specifically searched items on my other browser pages.
This reminds me I'm still on Google where anything I type is being phished and any app can include codes that find anything on my phone.
As suspected, the dual messaging feature gave me 2 WhatsApp accounts BUT each time I opened the other space it brings a general slowing of the phone ( where is my 6Gb RAM??)
My conclusion on this that since my wife has the S8+ now, I would keep this for compatible android messaging apps, some browsing, WhatsApp and calls ONLY.
I don't regret buying it because it's a Samsung flagship and about the only class they would give 2 years support. It will need a case, it's fragile and frustratingly so.
This has led me to understanding what I really need from a phone - the ecosystem!
I need a phone that has a consumer oriented exclusivity, secure with my data, my banking, personal entries, I need an ecosystem where I can start an SMS on my phone and continue on my tablet and end up on my laptop, I need a phone that offers quality, out of the box simplicity, highly walled and prioritized apps that provide ease of use and connectivity.
I don't want to be worried about having the cyber attacks affecting a $50 phone on my $1000 handset. I need an ecosystem where I can reply to my messages on my tablet, phone or my laptop and also pick calls from any of them.
I need a work phone, a business phone with a comfortable, secure ecosystem where I'm the client/user and where I'm not the product being sold to marketing sites, spammers and hackers.
This will be my last Android phone. I will not sell this as the Note 5 is dead to Samsung already.
I will however get what will be my work/business phone - The iPhone 8 Plus ( I have the 6s Plus and it simply works, I don't need to customize and keep customizing), - My work/business Tablet, the iPad Pro 10.5 (which can also double for couch bound entertainment)
- And the macbook Pro with touchbar.
This is my conclusion on this handset and even with the emoji keyboard I downloaded, it's still terribly cramped without a case to use.
Have had for 2 days.Took this over an iPhone 8 plus 256gb.(coming from a 6splus 128gb)Seems ok so far.Not sure why telcos in Australia only offer the 64gb version. Nothing a quality SD card can't solve.tech 21 cover added minimum bulk and tempered screen protector of course.Usual great Samsung camera.Have not fully explored phone yet.Last note I owned was a note 3 which was great.Nice and smooth for an android.great design,fantastic screen.Perfect size for my hands.Fingerprint location Is ok with me seems natural and is quick to unlock.iphone f/print sensor better for car mount.Great phone for Netflix etc.I always play around with/use s-pen.Sure iPhone more powerful but so boring.Can only see me enjoying this phone for the next 12 months-Samsung offer a free screen if damaged in the first 12 months.Great battery life too and quick charge and light to carry.