taryx, 11 Oct 2017which one is better s8 active or note8It's like you are asking. Do I need a 4x4 AWD or do I need a sport car?
imRGZ, 14 Oct 2017This is a typical view of an android from an iPhone user's perspective. They won't come out of... moreHe thinks he has a better insight. I can complain about iPhones as the biggest useless product to me than the masses who would fork $1000+ for hardware we have been using for several years. But I don't go out to get one and flood the iPhone page with my negative findings. Mr. "Tech" seems be in love with Android hardware and features that the iPhone does not have, however he wished they ran iOS instead. That's all. He's playing it safe, getting both sides. He might be upset that iPhones still record in mono audio despite being 4K 60 fps. He's avoiding to mention that Apple render all old 2+ years models with an irreversible OS update making them obsolete.
He says he's already got the S8+ - there is no use in getting a Note8 if he has no real purpose for an S Pen.
AnonD-197784, 14 Oct 2017I'm not sure what "resistance" you are talking about, realising that investing in the Android ... moreNone of the arguments you have made are objective in anyway... I haven't heard a single argument that held up... most of what you've stated is factually false even... which is the only reason i responded in the first place... your making some seriously inaccurate accusations... the portions that are stated appropriately as being your opinions I really care less about it's when you make statements that are patently false that I've been routinely correcting you upon.
The biggest deal of it all is you are pretending to own these devices yet are making statements that are so wildly inaccurate that it would be nearly impossible to believe you.. unless you are utterly ignorant... you've went from saying the Note 5 hasn't received any updates (which is false)... and obviously not true... simply like your original statement that you said you were unaware of any recent security updates to the Note 5... again also untrue as literally anyone who owned a Note 5 would actually know... as we literally received a update this very month and have been getting security updates almost every month of this entire year...
Also your entire argument has equal and opposite contradictions.. which you still just have chosen to ignore... as though ignoring those arguments makes them go away.... which it doesn't... I've at least been responding to each and every argument you've made... you keep making the exact same incorrect statements perpetually... so debating with you has been made utterly pointless....
To re-summarize... I am no longer attempting to rationalize anything with you as you simply ignore anything being said... but for other people reading these things need to be said for those who don't know they should be able to see every side of the argument.
Why are we dying to get one, heavens is not going to fall. Wait for Blue and 128 GB internal plus OREO next year 1st Qtr. Price 650+. What wrong when you showing off your BNew, We must be having scratches and 5 months Old
Anonymous, 14 Oct 2017Buy iPhone, not Android. Why complain if you buy?iPhone is not an OS. It is the phone series of Apple.
Android is an OS.
Why do you confuse iPhone with Android?
It's like saying buy a "Galaxy not iOS". LOL!
AnonD-197784, 13 Oct 2017**FINALLY Had to charge it for extended period as recommended on first charge. Nice animati... moreThis is a typical view of an android from an iPhone user's perspective. They won't come out of the walled mindset Apple forces its users into and write these kind of reviews whenever provided a chance to use a different ecosystem. Everything, Apple does it better, always comparing android with iOS. iOS does this and that better. Everybody knows how an android phone works compared to an iPhone. There is no need to buy a Note 8 and start complaining about it lacking iOS traits. I see you have an iPad and MacBook Pro, the best thing you could have done is buy an iPhone X, instead of buying Note 8 and iPhone 8 Plus and avoided your pain of using an Android and expecting android to be a closed source. Simple, you like and want to be in iOS ecosystem, head straight to Apple store. Don't say my Note 8 isn't behaving like an iPhone so Note 8 is unworthy of flagship price....
Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017Just a little reminder the oldest device now to get iOS 11? Is the iPhone 5s which was release... moreI'm not sure what "resistance" you are talking about, realising that investing in the Android Ecosystem is a waste of my money on the very short run isn't resistance, it's wisdom.
I have a Priv that was almost the same price as the Note at release. Now Blackberry says it won't support it anymore, same goes for DTek series and calls them "transitional" and "test" devices. The truth is that Only Google can effectively optimize its own hardware with its own Android OS. The competition makes them able to dictate what happens to any OEM running their software and even sabotage if need be.
Same thing goes with Microsoft; they started their hardware and now are cutting off support from some OEM windows 10 laptops/tablets. And you can't compare how well the windows 10 works on any of the Microsoft Surface line up with other OEMs success as Dell, IBM etc.
My choice is Apple - it simply works! They might not have the excessive gimmicks that people hardly use BUT they are highly optimized, fluid, secure and offer a degree of sophistication you can't get from anywhere else.
And even if you are a paid Samsung person with your new account (I suspect) I already have my take on Amazon Verified Purchases reviews from my seller.
The truth had to be told. Android users are the products not the customers. I need more control, security and peace of mind than that.
It's my legal right to let people know it's not a practical phone at that price. Especially when it loses support next year. I own a Note 8 and that is my view.
Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017Just a little reminder the oldest device now to get iOS 11? Is the iPhone 5s which was release... moreIt's not an argument. It's my take on Samsung android phones and what I need.
I'm going for a phone with a balanced ecosystem, secure and fully optimized. I'm going all in on Apple products. The Note 8 is simply for WhatsApp, some browsing and calls.
There's a phone for everyone, having the Note 8 has helped me make up my mind on what matters and what's worth me investing in.
Anonymous, 14 Oct 2017Buy iPhone, not Android. Why complain if you buy?Its my review. I'm not complaining. Thats what this place is for. I have it and that's my take and conclusion on the GN8
The Note8 is the best smartphone at the moment. No other has a Wacom pen.
Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017Just a little reminder the oldest device now to get iOS 11? Is the iPhone 5s which was release... morePlease do stick around on these boards. You're making more sense than majority of the children to be contended here.
Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017Just a little reminder the oldest device now to get iOS 11? Is the iPhone 5s which was release... moreiOS updates on older devices is meant to slow them down. Nevermind "security" updates. Battery even drains faster on the iPhone 7 with the recent iOS update. A push for Apple fans to get the 8.
AnonD-197784, 13 Oct 2017Having a backlog of the older handsets is not the same as them pushing updates because they ca... moreJust a little reminder the oldest device now to get iOS 11? Is the iPhone 5s which was released late Nov 2013 pretty much 2014... so basically a year older whoopity-doo... will it run well on iOS 11... unlikely more likely it will force users to buy a new iPhone because how exceedingly slow and outdated it is... just like with most iOS updates on aging devices...
So is it a big win... ? Nope... is it a big joke? Yep
It's not even that I'm adverse to iOS devices it's just annoying how some people are so wildly misinformed... and they spread their own personal distaste without exploring the reality of things... I love my iPad Pro 12.2 it's great... I picked it over Samsungs newest line of tablets including the galaxy book and tab s3...
I just can't let people's extremely biased and unfactual opinion slide by without equal and opposite equality of facts. I'm an everything fan and choose to look at things with a very open mind rather than quarantine myself in the name of one resistance.
Considering that your opinion is that older devices receiving security updates doesn't matter... well iOS devices not receiving the newest iOS updates do not even receive security updates so... consider that for a moment.
Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017How many security patches have I gotten for my Note 5 in 2017? January, February, April, May a... moreThose updates and works were slated for their Note 7 and the Note 5 got them because the Note 7 was recalled and they couldn't leave their customers hanging.
How come Note FE gets the 7.1 and the Note 5 won't or even Oreo?
I get my facts from what I experience and expect. My Note 5 wasn't my only phone, the Priv had been my main Comms hub for secure Comms. And now blackberry says no Nougat (in 2017) for Priv and the security updates will cease after a short period. They called them "transitional" devices and our money was for their tests.
I'm done with Android, no guarantees anywhere and even the 2 year update thing will change I'm sure when the X comes. It's all business to them. Here I apologize to @Thyneighbor; he said that first.
AnonD-197784, 13 Oct 2017And how many times do you see such updates being sent on a regular bases?? Except for Android ... moreHow many security patches have I gotten for my Note 5 in 2017? January, February, April, May and August, already expecting further updates as there has already been evidence of such...
So pretty damn good for a 2015 device... again where are you getting literally any of what you are saying? It's certainly not from personal experience.
They usually wait until sales have calmed down for their newest devices to update older devices as to not effect sales of newer devices... this is how it has almost always been... so my expectations are pretty high... this isn't my first rodeo.
Will I be mad if a stop receiving full blown android updates after 3 years ? Nope i can afford to get a new device every 3-4 years because it's honestly I can afford it, most other people can too... and if not you can always buy cheaper android devices that are 1/10th of the price at a more frequent turn over rate that have the latest android update and security patch.
Aircrackng, 13 Oct 2017Last Note 5 patch was for the Blueborne exploit which affected ALL devices including windows a... moreHaving a backlog of the older handsets is not the same as them pushing updates because they care about the "customers"
I agree my Note 5 is on Android 7 (they didn't have a choice because that was their flagship note after note 7 fiasco), now we have Note 8 and it comes with the coveted dual messaging feature, so I guess I can have it on my Note 5?? Wrong! They made it only for their handsets with Android 7.1 (Not Android 7) and a couple of other features too.
And officially, apart from their 2016/2017 phones, none else is getting the 7.1