Wow a few days without anyone complaining, criticizing, or even overly commending!
Figured I would add something just to make sure the thread is functional.
I post as Whitedragem and when I can't log in as, Whitedragon (a nick I would have taken everywhere if it wasn't in short supply, so Whitedragem it is!!), and even an 'anonymous' post or two when I can't log in.. (the s6 edge compare 'novel' a week ago).
Alright, so having flashed Samsungs Lollipop 5.0.1, and given a week or more to 'stabilise'; I can confirm battery life has been exteneded (negligible, but for those saying otherwise, I put to them; check running software)
Things are much more responsive. There is still a third of a second 'lag' when bringing up the multitasker wheel (anything outside of an I7 with gigs of ram I would expect to do the same when it hasn't preloaded all the images).
This phone is a veritable powerhouse. It does everything perfectly.
Okay 'Baldurs Gate' is missing water and lava textures; something which plagues many Adreno video chipsets. Beamdog software blame many things, but anyone saying that the game is flawless, it is pretty good, but for those who played these games (Icewind Dale, BG + BG2) back in the day.. Still work to be done on the engine for Android!
Over this last weekend I made several two hour drives to the major city nearby. This involves moments of no reception. Also in town, there are hundreds of wifi hotspots etc.. My phone had good reason to get tired. It supplied audio via bluetooth to the car stereo (Five hours total). I reviewed fitness trackers etc when in the city via my phones 4G telephony. I took tonnes of photos using the camera. I UV monitored and GPS navigated, and just used the phone like I could.
Each day I had around 50% power left in the evening.
I consider these days regular usage, not heavy usage.
On any other phone (not phablet) I would expect my phone to be drained, and would purposely go light to keep my phone usable.
My phone was in near constant usage.. and I could easily get two days (technically two days and one night) out of my phone using it as it is needed. Phones just wouldn't to a day.
To be fair, I do charge in the evening.. sometimes I quickcharge in the mornings.
Phone batteries should be recharged before getting below 20%. When they get to 10% remaining, we are robbing them of half as many recharges. This is to say, draining phones to 3% is not good practice. (I used to hook a lightbulb off the terminals on my old siemens and nokia batteries in the early ninties to remove 'memory effect').
I can confirm that my phone, with wifi on, will never drain 12% an hour, whether away from networks, or surrounded by tonnes of them (I set home as a hidden network - so my phone works pretty hard from a wifi standpoint.
On Saturday I added a Samsung Fit to my lineup.
I wanted a small piece of kit that could fitness track and have a few days of life... (mostly for sleep monitoring).
The software is a joke to setup initially. In fact it hosed all my s-fit data for the last three months in the Edge.
But it is a nice addon.
Doesn't quite do everything perfect.. like I can only skip tracks but not change albums when driving in the car/ using the 'media control'.
I can set a double touch of the side button to jump straight to a dedicated app (media control in my case) and then set regular button to either return to last used, or, as I prefer, the time screen. I chose the one which gives weather as well.
Black background naturally (It is OLED).
The present price makes them a real bargain.
(around half of launch price if I am not mistaken)
I find the Edge a great phone.
Clear microphones. Nice speakerphone. Loud ringtone etc. (funny how not all 'phones' are phones first anymore!)
All the extra fruit is just a massive bonus.
Sure it doesn't have the projector built in like some samsung phones have. It doesn't have a physical keyboard which I way prefer to use. It doesn't have stereo speakers on it for media player use. (though it does have excellent quality sound either via the 3.5mm jack or via bluetooth)
It is an excellent purchase, its only caveat is the size and potential delicacy that all large screen phones have over 3"(and smaller) screens. To be fair, I have friends who crack the screens on 2" displays and I have seldom so much as chipped fascias on most of my electronics (I dropped my Vita out of a car at one point and roughed up a few edges on it).
I bought my Edge on a plan, because it worked out like a nearly free phone.
For the last decade I have been off contract, preferring to buy top of the line phones outright, then going to whichever prepaid deal gave me what I needed. I liked the freedom and flexibilty that this method offered.
I did lament the 'free phone' every two years that contract buyers had.
For me the Note 4 vs Note 4 Edge was a negligible price difference on contract.. so I do not feel the Edge was a costly premium.
I do prefer the using of it though.. portrait webpages fitting noticably more onscreen that the Note 4 as an example.
I dig the colour accurate screen, excellent sound, and huuuge battery life. Phablet class phones having the biggest on-screen keyboards, I think this is a benefit as well.
The super low SAR of this phone suggests to me it has excellent antennae design. My usage in the last three months confirms this belief.
On the whole, every few years, something new comes along that changes the market.
I did think a few years ago of running a tablet with a sim, and using a bluetooth headset for calls..
This Phablet is nice enough to use I didn't grab a fitness monitor with microphone/speaker (eg Sony SWR30), and I don't use my BT headset as often as I would with any other phone due to the greatly reduced SAR that this model has.
Happy using peoples.
Whilst unhappy customers go trawling the net, happy customers get on with life and the using of their products.
I feel Edge users make for pretty happy campers. Note users in general too.
Samsung Gear Fit is nice and small. Perhaps I am using a later version of the unit, but it is nice and accurate, and a joy to use.
I think I have had one day where I recharged my Note Edge after seventeen hours use, because it had gotten lowish battery and I like to recharge ASAP. It doesn't count though, because it wasn't fully charged to begin with, and I flashed a new OS on it, and upgraded all its apps etc. And then proceeded to use it like crazy testing it out. I still had to sleep at some point, so as a phone it has always outlasted my needs, and I have never gone easy on it to leave me with some battery power for 'later on' (I have never engaged any of the low power use modes either).
So anyone who gets a Note 4 over the Note Edge just because of the battery discrepancy.. educate yourself about 'real world usage'.
These things are awesome and in no way 'inferior'.
very good phone but the back is....... JUST UGLY
it seems Samsung can't make things without such disasters
ladyskeleton, 26 Feb 2015I am not very happy and impressed with Samsung edge....I bought the edge last Feb 12 but after... moreYou mentioned S5.
I am using Galaxy S5 for more than 5 months now and I didn't experience such problem.
ladyskeleton, 26 Feb 2015I am not very happy and impressed with Samsung edge....I bought the edge last Feb 12 but after... moreELF
Early Life Failure.
Go back to your retailer and swap the phone over for a properly working unit.
In the modern world it is unusual for any product to have perfect quality control and for all supplied parts/chips to work perfectly.
We are not buying jet planes or life support equipment.
This is mass market stuff. (as all phones are)
There used to be some PC shops in my country that would benchmark and run the PCs they sold for a few days prior to the sale to try and confirm that said machine was faultless.
More than a decade ago, top tier electrical goods similar policies in place prior to being shipped.
Some luxuary parts, eg audio amplifiers ship with 'test reports' to confirm actual performance of the actual unit we receive.
We pay a premium for this service/standard.
Unfortunately, when companies try their hardest to shave a few cents here and a few cents there from the total cost; stuff like sample testing (eg a few units every thousand) is the best we get.
How long since you bought a PC that came with manuals or install media?
We want low cost, we get what we ask for!
Yes, I admit, the Note Edge is expensive when compared to other phones, but it is still very cheap for the market tier it represents.
Most of my high end phones used to cost 1/3 higher again.
RIZWAN, 26 Feb 2015i have just bought it
i have 2 issues
1 searching on wifi battery drains almost 14 percent... more14% an hour seems unlikely.
I suggest something more 'sinister' is going on to lead to that much battery drain.
I run hidden wifi networks, and leave my phones wifi on all day. And am out of wifi service zone for hours at a time quite often.
I have heavy usage of phone most other times, running middle screen brightness and auto, doing much webbrowsing and leaving all programs running...
This could be an extension of your second point.. the screen flickering..
This could be related to auto brightness, where, when brightening up the screen, a close surface to the phone (or your hand near the 'auto' sensor) starts to reflect the light.. the auto sensor changes brightness,.. to which the refelctive surface changes light value, and the process go on like a loop.
I suggest turn off 'auto' brightness adjust. And confirm whether this is part of the issue.
Otherwise there could be a fault at some level with the battery.
CPU-Z (play store) has a bunch of sensors in it,. you might be able to look at some temps and figure out if everything is running right.
(Also if all your cores are fired up, and at what speeds).. my phone seems to spend a lot of time using only two cores around 300Mhz. Sometimes it peaks around 1300Mhz, and sometimes, it will load up to full speed on two cores, and half speed on other cores for a few seconds to really churn through something,.. when doing light phone activities.
If your phone, doing nothing, shows hot battery temps, and loaded cores,.. then we have an issue!
Also, when we flash a new ROM or OS variant, it can take a few charge cycles for the phone to normalise itself and figure out where it really is with regards to battery power. Until it normalises it is hard to tell how fast it is ripping through the power.
Though not Note Egde related, thanks for the advice. Was wondering why my phone's battery drained faster than usual awhile ago and I remembered that it was constantly searching for a Wifi signal during that time.
I am not very happy and impressed with Samsung edge....I bought the edge last Feb 12 but after less than two weeks it won't charge....it's sucks. ...wish I bought I phone 6....before that I bought s5 and it's not also working well....haist....I wish I don't switch phones....
RIZWAN, 26 Feb 2015i have just bought it
i have 2 issues
1 searching on wifi battery drains almost 14 percent... moreAny smartphone will drain the battery faster when it always search for Wi-Fi connection.
It doesn't have to be on any particular unit.
Don't make it an issue!
i have just bought it
i have 2 issues
1 searching on wifi battery drains almost 14 percent per hour
2 on white screen like writing new email or any white screen i find the impression that brightness is fluctuating very minutr though but still it feels
anyone can plz tell his expierience.
cell tech, 25 Feb 2015Oh really....
With regards bluetooth usable distances... and even wifi distances.. this can be dependent on a range of things...
Water absorbs waves. Metals reflect waves. Solid objects of mixed materials can deflect waves in weird ways.
The real unknown is how much other radio wave 'noise' is in the air.
Think about it- it is hard for devices to deal with all these frequencies. Especially so at greater distances when the waves are 'less'.
In a clear area with little radio wave activity it is easy to go great distances..
Case in point.. my bluetooth mouse and bluetooth headphones were fighting yesterday. Not physically in a way I could see,.. but my mouse just didn't want to respond. Until I cut back on radio wave emissions somewhat.
I have had lossless wireless devices 2.4Ghz give me epic ranges (yes 100ft is very doable for this tech),.. and also had compressed transmissions (much less data) not travel more than 30ft in relative line of sight.
Sometimes too, devices can be too close. For the wavelength to operate for some of these technologies, they need a minimum distance for the wavelength to be 'full'. (the mental image I have of this in my head tells me otherwise,.. like a wave on the ocean the up and down nature will happen.., but theoretically a bee cannot fly, and practically wifi has a minimum distance)
For the person asking about wifi hotspot times, I won't create another post until I can give something qualitative, but I concur that the large power draw of maintaining a high speed connection to the mobile phone towers is the big drain.
I found I could wifi hotspot for many hours and still have a very usable phone for the rest of the day... vs much every other android phone (y'know, regular phones with half the battery power), a couple of hours, four at most, was the limit.
hows the battery life when we use phone as hot spot and internet on phone . hw many hours does it last
cell tech, 25 Feb 2015Oh really.... Take it from real user not from someone who pretends.
Dark X, 25 Feb 2015But 20MP camera,dual edge display,new fringer print scanner,585ppi display and new material de... moreAhead!? are you kidding me...?
What possible things can one modern phone do that another cannot?
It really is a case of different needs and choosing the right device.
Personally I think an HTC M7 is an 'ultimate' phone (bang for buck wise, and superbly stylish, excellent build and practical design, with nice handling.)
Otherwise I would probably choose the Compact Sony Z which has sealing, if that was the feature I needed.
What does one need a phone for? Ask this question.. then buy the phone that meets thy need.
Why did I go a Note device? Low SAR. This was my number one reason. This matters to me most. I then chose the Edge variant due to the usage needs of myself for a phone and tablet. As a tablet class device, the edge was a no brainer.. (us users of said device no doubt know why)(multitasking ease for the uninformed, as well as a plethora of other benefits)
Anyhow- I will take a 'bite' at this...
I understand the S6 will not be weather sealed,.. though I base this information off quite possibly outdated reports from four or five weeks ago. (If so, I would choose a cheaper S5 or, as mentioned above, the Sony Compact)
crazy resolution.. dpi counts are extremely high.. the only practical use I could think of for this would be VR headgear. Though, sunlight legibility will no doubt be 'next level' and may compete against the (aged) Nokia 808 pureview.
Running with the VR concept as a driving factor to buy it.. The Mali graphics chip looks insanely powerful.
Just know that Android developers write for the largest market segment (not the top 4%). Whilst the graphics chips power sipping potential will be a boom for all users, the few that power game (ideally pushing the VR); it may be awhile before actual games come out to make use of the chip, and of those, who knows how many will be truly fun.
I put to you that the early adopters will no doubt have jumped ship to the next 'next gen' by this time.
But, certainly, yes, the CPU and GPU bench off the charts.
Outside of games I cannot imagine what purpose this offers the discussion.
For the record I have no games installed on my phone. I love my Vita and 3DS and Ninja PC. I would play Baldurs Gate on my Note 4 (Edge) as the S-pen makes it possible on such a small screen. This game is considered a classic, and I put many hours into it back in 1998. It would be the only time killer I could imagine putting on my phone.. and a phones screen is too small, so even though the requirements of the game are easily met, the only sub tablets that do it is the note line. (just trying to establish that fun does not require raw power, and that the Note lineup are versatile)
Knowing it isn't a Qualcomm chip, it might get a really nice Wolfson DAC,.. so it might have slightly better sound that a very small percentage of people would notice. I am an audiophile (my primary hobby, next to cameras), and I love the 'reduced' sound quality of my 805 chipset,.. so I feel this point is moot. Admittedly APT-X, when run with APT-X headphones does help sound quality, although I found that my non APT-X Sony MDR-1BTs sound much better off my Note than every device before them. The bandwidth of modern wireless methods has caught up with APT-X is my perception and VS lossless wireless I find bluetooth 3 quite acceptable.
The camera is a moot point. I would take lower MP on the same size sensor just about every time. I read that it is the same sony 240, but if the sensor was more 'sensitive' I'd give the win to the S6. Otherwise lower MP often equals less noise.
Two edges? I am perplexed. Why? I am an Edge user. One is enough,.. but I am willing to be enlightened. I am pretty creative, and I really cannot see ANY benefit that could outweight the engineering compromises this will bring. I do want to be proven wrong here!
improved finger print scanner? (I am happy with note 4s, when multienroling several fingers. greater than 95% success rate, so moot point)
So to recap,
increased speed,.. what are you people doing on your phones?
VR and battery life,.. hell yes!
Mali looks very nice and CPU benches off the charts.. realworld performance gain for games.. just remember that games manufacturers have to write for common denominator,.. by the time games come out to make real use of the power, the 'cutting edge' technologists will have 'moved on'.
bragging rights,.. Oh!
Damn people,.. just buy the phone that does what you need it to do.
Honestly there isn't a more veritable swiss army knife than the Note Edge.
For a regular phone I would go HTC M(whichever fits pricepoint).
Other option would be for a tough phone.
If S6 is Ingress Protection rated, then yay. If not, then it could be great for VR games or exceptional battery life.
Or for a smaller note experience for those that truly would never use an S-pen.
I am sure I have missed a few things, it is late and I am tired. let the flames begin!!
cell tech, 24 Feb 2015I thought this problem is with my device only because I have gear s also and it work perfectly... moreI tried my Samsung Galaxy Gear connected to Note Edge via bluetooth in an open area and I reach up to almost 100Ft away from the phone before it disconnects.