Anonymous, 26 Aug 2021100% THIS. I "upgraded" from my S9+ and instantly noticed the decrease in resolution... moreHopefully Samsung will have learned from its mistakes, and S22 will have a screen with better resolution and memory card. Or S22 sales number will be even lower than those from S21 which, according to Samsung itself, is catastrophic... Having changed my S20 for an S21 was a big mistake.
Anonymous, 25 Aug 2021Dude i don t care about all your data. I had S21 and S20 in my hands both. Don t get me wron... more100% THIS. I "upgraded" from my S9+ and instantly noticed the decrease in resolution. I noticed pixelation and text discolouration where I couldn't on the S9+. Anyone who says overwise deserves to be robbed by Samsung.
JdRDMS, 25 Aug 2021Ok you're definitely desperate now. "I don't care about all of your data" ... moreFor you they can made a vga screen in future and 1000$ price if that phone number will be higher don t care .
I just advice people not to buy s21 or s21 plus , instead of S20 or S20 plus , unless it is a supper offer at the price of the s20 FE .
Anonymous, 25 Aug 2021Dude i don t care about all your data. I had S21 and S20 in my hands both. Don t get me wron... moreOk you're definitely desperate now. "I don't care about all of your data" is something you only say when you know you're about to lose the argument. The vast majority of the time, your phone is a foot away from your eyes, and at that distance it becomes hard to tell the difference unless you're specifically looking for it. The S21 still has flagship display quality, with colors, brightness, and features. I also very clearly said that 1080p is the sweet spot for phones, and bigger screens should start to go higher. Once you're up above 10" or so, the pixels at 1080p become noticeably bigger, and then you can start going to higher resolutions. I do care about quality, obviously. But some people don't need 4K even on a TV, which is why 1080p TVs still exist. They're good enough for some people, and the company usually still makes 4K TVs for customers who want it it. Most people DO buy the cheapest thing that gets the job done for them. And even then, the S21 is still a very good phone. It's got a unique design, great display, very good battery life, a flagship chipset, good cameras, and a decently compact size (and if you want a bigger screen then the S21+ exists, which is basically the same phone, and even at 6.7" 1080 is still very good). Sure, 1080p is not "premium," but that's a really dumb argument as a) it's still good enough at this size, and b) it comes with other drawbacks. Which would you take, a slightly higher resolution that's difficult to notice most of the time, or better battery life, higher FPS, and less GPU throttling? This post is the equivalent of "I don't care what you say I'm still right".
JdRDMS, 24 Aug 2021I admit I misunderstood what you said about price, but the rest of your logic is still horribl... moreDude i don t care about all your data. I had S21 and S20 in my hands both. Don t get me wrong S21 it is not awfull phone , it is really fast , but the display quality it feels cheap for that budget. In my country S21 cost 800$ without 5g the same as S20 5G and S20 without 5g cost 700$. If the price was the same as S20 FE i did not have any complain .If you use the phone at 1m distance you can t tell the difference , but most times you use it very close to your face. And 1080p is still 1080p and it is non premium . S21 Ultra is the only S21 true flagship , the problem with that is his gigantic size.
S21 specs should have S21 FE with smaller price not S21.
You have any ideea how much cost to produce a display for S20 and ho much it cost for S21?
This is what happens when at first you give you customer the best quality and after some years you decide why don t downgrade quality and charge the same price , they wouldn t notice.
If 1080p is that good for you ? Will you ever buy a 1080 monitor or TV in 2021 ? Or only if you whant the cheapest thing out there and you don t care about quality.
Anonymous, 24 Aug 2021I work with people that repair phones for a living . And they have S20 and S21 in repair servi... moreIn terms of Price, its just a simple Demand and Supply law. Old devices requires old sparepart, which might be harder to find/less likely to be produced compared to newer devices.
10/10 I'd go for brighter, faster, vibrant 1080p display in 6,2 inch compared to sluggish 60hz 1440p. You dont even need that much pixel in this size lol.
JdRDMS, 24 Aug 2021I admit I misunderstood what you said about price, but the rest of your logic is still horribl... moreI have an s10 and was initially disappointed by the apparent downgrade in s21 resolution. However I think that you have managed to convince me that it is not as bad as I had feared so thank you for explaining things so easily.
Anonymous, 24 Aug 2021I work with people that repair phones for a living . And they have S20 and S21 in repair servi... moreI admit I misunderstood what you said about price, but the rest of your logic is still horrible. 6.2" is a lot bigger than 5.1", yes, but at that size 1080p pixels are still microscopic. No, the S21 does not have a mid-range display, and if you think that you clearly don't how displays work. High brightness, HDR10+, 120Hz, and variable refresh rate matter a lot more than a slight increase in resolution, and no other mid-range display has all of those in one. 1080p is still very sharp, and there are few instances where 1440p comes close to being important. Just because you can tell the difference between 1080p and 1440p, that doesn't mean 1440p is necessary on phones. These aren't monitors, the difference is easy to get used to. The displays are not in other leagues, the display on the S21 is still very good and very comparable to the S20. You're trading a slightly higher resolution for higher brightness and variable refresh rate, and the colors are close too. You also use the logic of "they used 1440p on a 5.1" display." 5.1" 1440p was overkill, rather than 6.2" 1080p being weak. If 1440p makes a big difference in everyday use to you, that's fine, and I won't complain if they bring it back on the S22 series, but if you think the S21 has a mid-range display just because of 1080p, you clearly don't know what you are talking about.
Also the S21 has a flat screen, which has benefits and drawbacks compared to curved screens, but by nature they are cheaper than curved screens like the one on the S20. The drop in display cost probably has more to do with it being flat and less with the resolution.
JdRDMS, 21 Aug 2021My eyes work just fine, and if 1440p made a real difference in day-to-day use, then I'd h... moreI work with people that repair phones for a living . And they have S20 and S21 in repair service , both for display change . And the display for S20 is a lot more expensive than the display from S21. S21 display is a mid-range display.
And i did not say that S21 5g is more expensive than S20 4g. I said That S21 4g has the same price as S20 5G (with 12gb ram) , S21 5g is far more expensive than that.
So i see the S21 and S20 both in my hands and what i don t like that both are kinda big for me.
But in terms of display , they are clearly in others leagues . 6.2 inch is a very big screen , they used 1440p screen on 5.1 inch in the past. And now they downgrade the display quality to mentain money , but if people are smart enough to still buy it , they can go like that forever .
Anonymous, 22 Aug 2021Purchased one of these. And here comes the ridiculous part. I paid 350 Euro plus a cheap 6 mon... moreI'll get back with additional info when received.
Even my wife agreed that this was a good phone deal. Promised her to shut up regarding phones over the next couople of years.
Purchased one of these. And here comes the ridiculous part. I paid 350 Euro plus a cheap 6 month subscription (20Euro/month for a 30GB dataplan) for this. And they transferred my existing phone number. The subscription is 10Euro month over my present 60GB/Month dataplan but who cares.
Violet. And ny daugther is rather envious over the colour.
1 month expectected delivery time. Awesome
Paul, 19 Aug 2021Hi guys, I’m wanting to change from iOS to android and hoping to get the S21. Can anyone pleas... moreTip:
Avoid fast charging because it lowers the number of charges/times a battery lasts over time.
Samsung has three charging speed settings on the S21, and the default is 'slow' or standard. So to use fast charging you would have to change this setting. I don't and can plug into any charger and charge this way.
This gives you much more longevity of your battery. I know people that have 6 year old batteries. This may not prove the point for all batteries, but If you want to use your phone longer or give it to someone else after you upgrade, just use regular charging. Better for the environment as well.
Anonymous, 21 Aug 2021You clearly have a problem ( medical problem) if you don t see the difference betwin two diffe... moreMy eyes work just fine, and if 1440p made a real difference in day-to-day use, then I'd happily accept it. Your logic of impressive tech but low resolution would work fine with 720p, but 1080p is very sharp at this size. Our eyes can only do so well when it comes to perceiving resolution, and at 1080p on a 6.2" screen, the pixels are already microscopic. These aren't 13" laptops or 20" monitors, 1440p is not a big jump over 1080p like they are on there. The S21's display is better than the S20's overall. Going down to 1080p is easy to get used to (unlike 1080p to 720p) and it's worth it for the higher brightness and variable refresh rate. And in spite of it's power hungry processors and higher brightness, the combination of variable refresh rate and 1080p gives it better battery life. It's barely even true that the S20 has more features, with the exception of microSD. ANT+ is a very niche feature. The S21 has variable refresh rate, which is much more meaningful because it gives you better battery life (and this is with a brighter screen and 5G, and a faster processor) at 120Hz.
Even if 1440p was a big jump, that wouldn't change how horrible your logic is. You said the S21 5G is more expensive than the S20 4G. Like, how braindead do you have to be to get confused by that? It's got 5G. Including 5G has a price, that's phone-making 101. You also said it's the same price as the S20 5G. Samsung still sells the S20 5G on their website, and yet Samsung is not giving you the ability to choose? You're contradicting yourself really badly. You're picking between a slightly higher resolution, curved screen, ANT+, a microSD card slot, and the option for more RAM, or a better display overall, a flat screen (both flat and curved screens have their benefits, I'm not a hypocrite), variable refresh rate, a faster processor, better battery life, slightly faster storage, better screen protection, and Android 14 when that comes out. If they're the same price, then you get to pick the PHONE that's best for you. In terms of specs, the S21 is overall ahead, but the S20 has some meaningful features that will make a difference to some people. This isn't exclusive to the S21, or even Samsung in general. Look at the iPhone 12. It's got a smaller battery than the iPhone 11, but it's overall the better phone. If you want long battery life, you can buy the 11. You an Apple hater? The Oppo Find X3 Pro goes back to Gorilla Glass 5 from 6 on the X2 Pro. The ROG Phone 3 doesn't have a headphone jack unlike the ROG II. The Axon 30 has a lower-resolution selfie camera than the Axon 20 (16MP vs 32MP). I could go on, but I think I've made my point. And the kicker? All of the examples I've just listed are with phones that are more expensive than their predecessors. Since the S21 is the same price, it can get away with having a few more compromises, and it's still an upgrade over the S20 overall.
And as for the "you can put every kind of tech it's still 1080p," you said the S21 has a mid-range display, but it very obviously is not as it has features that make a real difference. If it were 720p, then I'd agree, but 1080 is still very sharp.
JdRDMS, 21 Aug 2021"Mid-range display" lmao dude what? Even if you can tell the difference between 1080... moreYou clearly have a problem ( medical problem) if you don t see the difference betwin two different resolution quality . But the problem it is not that you don t see the difference , it is that you don t whant to see it. You can put every kind of tech in it 1080p is still 1080p and it is still cheaper than 1440p to make it they keep a lot of money in pockets for that downgrade.
You talk ( write in this context) exactly like a friend of mine who said that his At least Mid Range phone it is as good as any Flagship phones and when i said that his screen is not that quality , his camera is not that good and more things like that he say that he doesn t need that .
But at least he has pay 200$ for his phone. The point is S21 price is bigger than S20 at this moment and S20 has more features and especialy a better display.
If people like you don t care when you buy a product that should be a update compare to the last one , and it is more weaker it is a problem.
Anonymous, 20 Aug 2021Buy S20 5G with 12gb ram if you whant a decent size and good quality display. That dude has a ... more"Mid-range display" lmao dude what? Even if you can tell the difference between 1080p and 1440p, you clearly don't know how displays work. Resolution isn't everything. There are also colors, refresh rate, brightness, etc. The S21 is a flagship display in every way except resolution, and honestly for most people 1080p is enough. Show me a mid-range display that can do HDR10+, 1300 nits in HDR, 120Hz, variable refresh rate, and the level of colors that this thing can do, all in one panel. I still fail to see how 1440p makes any difference at 6.2", let alone how not having it is a deal-breaker, but if you can tell the difference, more power to you. However, I can no longer take you seriously if you think the S21 has a mid-range display just because it's 1080p. Sorry. If you want 1440p, the S20 is still an option. But if you just want flagship display quality and don't care about 1440p, the S21 delivers and then some. Also, the S21's display is actually slightly better than the S20's in other areas, as it's brighter and can do variable refresh rate. Like it or not, the S21 is a flagship. Flagship processor, flagship display quality, great battery life, and the back materials will matter to almost no one because cases exist, and very few people carry their phones outside a case.
Anonymous, 20 Aug 2021I agree with you. But
Just one month ago I bought S20 Fe, A71, s21 , s21 ultra.
Righ... moreBuy S20 5G with 12gb ram if you whant a decent size and good quality display. That dude has a problem with his ,,no one needs more than 1080p on a smartphone". We are all diferent , we do different things , we like different things.
What i whant to say is that it doesn t matter what everyone prefer , the point is that to make 1440p display cost a lot more than a 1080p one . When Samsung made the S20 FE it was ok , they downgrade the display quality for people who didn t care to much about that and wanted a cheaper S20. But with S21 series they downgrade the screen again and surprise the price is big . S21 and S21 Plus should be high end devices with best quality materials but they have a mid range display and the price is even bigger than the S20 and S20 Plus.
captain fokou, 19 Aug 2021What is better on the s20? S20 5g if you don t like big phones. S20 Ultra , S20 Ultra 5g , S21 Ultra , S21 Ultra 5G if you are into gigantic phones.
JdRDMS, 19 Aug 2021What the heck did I just read? It's honestly impressive how much wrong there is in this p... moreI agree with you. But
Just one month ago I bought S20 Fe, A71, s21 , s21 ultra.
Right now I am using s9 . My all phone s2,s3,s4,s5,s6,s7,s8,s10,s20 are dead.
I just don't know why my s20 screen goes off. I had just keep my phone on charging . When I go for looking s20 it was blackout.. no touch on screen .
My s20 was exynos version.
Right now s9 also goes off. S10 was fallen in hot water tub.when I remove it from tub .directly screen goes off.
When I was using s20 fe and a71 . It was fine too good .
But when I using s21 . I compare my s9 . Will playing some 4k video on both phone. S9 screen look better than s21 . But s21 was brighter .s21 4k video dint feel like sharp smoothness. Curved display is also not there no s21.
And I compare s21 and s21 ultra also . With 8k video on both phones side by side. S21 ultra video is so sharp and smooth it was geourges great screen..
S21 flat screen look deep. S21 ultra screen look bettere smooth. Icons look like 3d on screen. S21 icons look deep inside in screen.
But I didn't like bigger screen s21 ultra. It's look wider in my hand also . It's look wider in pocket also. S21 ultra to big to keep in my pocket. My hands are small. I love compact phones like 6.1 inch to 6.3 inch. With great features like s21 ultra . But should be available on compact phones.
I only use phone for browsing, and watching 4k videos, and movies.
I don't use camera ,no images in my phone.
,don't use social app which I disable. Only use samsung apps. Dont use any Google apps all Google apps are disabled. Google maps also disable.
I don't play games on it.
Don't use calling . There's no contact in my phone .
I only use phone for browsing, and watching 4k videos, and movies.
Will watching video on s21 . Will using s21 . It's always goes around in my head it's 1080p display downgrade display. So I had sold my s21 .
Now I am with no phone . Waiting for s22. Hope for better features.
Now you suggest me what to do.😕
Paul, 19 Aug 2021Hi guys, I’m wanting to change from iOS to android and hoping to get the S21. Can anyone pleas... moreYes it comes with fast charging support.....but u have to buy the charger separately because u will not be getting any charger inside box.....only u will get the cable.....