An Android user, 29 May 2017Seriously I don't understand how you could say no other phone could compete, on paper xz premi... moreAgree with you, don't know why people ate making rotten apple so popular, is just a rotten apple
I'm really getting tired of people who doesn't read the whole sentence (thus don't understand) or doesn't understand because they lack the knowledge about the subject (but pretends to have done PhD thesis on it) or doesn't want to understand at all.
Dear "The User", even before you addressed this iris issue, I posted a comment, giving a link to a YouTube video which shows how to do the hacking if iris scanner. If you watch it, you'll know how hard it is. The links you sent are just writings, can say something and readers may understand something else (which usually is the case). Watch the video on your "dailystar" link (the same video that I suggested in my post) and you'll know how hard it is to fool the iris scanner. And for supporting my words, please read my previous comments in this forum on iris scanner hack.
Dear "An Android User", I seriously don't understand why people don't read the whole lines before commenting stupidly. I said no other phone can compete with S8, but in which category? Definitely in THE VISUAL LOOKS of the devices. Do you really think that I'm stupid and will tell something like that after devices like HTC U11 got released? Pfbhtfht. Stop watching yourself in the mirror and read the comments thoroughly and carefully.
And yes, I told that iPhone is prestigious. So is Samsung, Sony and mainstream manufacturers. It's the brand value that companies want to increase. No matter what I say, Apple still has better brand value than Samsung. That's why Apple's not-much-inside (talking about software here) devices sells more with higher price tag than Samsung's almost-everything-inside.
If your dad never used 3D touch, then he doesn't know how to use it. But don't say that 3D touch is unnecessary, it's not. If you start using things like 3D touch (by Apple), edge display (by Samsung), floating apps (by Sony), dual screen multitasking (by Android Nougat & Samsung), then how will you understand that they ease your usability? I have a Galaxy Note 12.2 tab which has the ability to show four screens at a time in split screens and up to five floating apps at the same time. Using the tab like that ease up my work. I don't have to switch from app to app, all are in front of me. Similarly, 3D touch helps you to open a particular function of an app without opening the app and click your way to that function. If you have never used those "gimmicks", I suggest you do. Then you'll understand that those are NOT GIMMICKS, but actual help on usability.
Once again, Korea and China are two independent countries and they deserve the respect that they are doing things by their own. LOL, if they are that worse, why a company like Apple is so eager to manufacture in China? Cheap labor cost? Well, in my book, that's China's credit. And if you don't think so, move your American factories from China (if you can afford it).
Last, but not least, dear Mr. "no name" $!-!!t, you say you are an engineer. Tell me, what do you make? Lego houses? Else why are you still after bacteria? LOL. Last time I checked, the spelling is WATERPROOF, not WATERPROFF. You should have known if you were a REAL engineer. (Don't tell me it was a typo, I can consider once, but not every time you write it). Well, the people who repair the phones in our country also love to call themselves as "engineer". But truly, they are not. Same are you. If you were an engineer, why are you after bacteria again? ROFL. You agreed that the heat is transferred through the heat sink and/or dual pipe coolant. But through what? Does a mobile phone have fan like PC/Laptops do? They don't. So the heat is transferred to the back panel (which is made of glass or Aluminium). That's why when we play heavy games, the back feels warmer than normal usage.
When you are talking about numbers and giving reference of two devices' difference in paper, you just can't randomly puck a number, you have to write the fact. What? Didn't you learn that in your Engineering classes?
And Mr. Full of $|-|!t, you are still avoiding my questions, or too afraid to answer them altogether. But still, here are my questions (written again) for you:
1. In which sense S8's glass panel felt plastic to you? Please explain in details.
2. Name the phones which have "matte back" but feels like glass.
We would be honored if your brain can come up with sone realistic answers for my questions, Mr. Engineer. Please, don't even write anything else before answering these questions and prove yourself as a fool in front of everyone again. Eagerly waiting for your educated engineering answer.
Take care. Ciao...
Suhanoo, 29 May 2017"Plastic back phones having coating that feels like glass"? LOL man, LOL. Why don't you enligh... morei think tis the last reply to u.... u r really s....
Bro , pixel also need to compare with screen size. thats why they come out with ppi...
i am talking about phone with 5 inch 1080 which has 441 ppi compare with s8 with 570 ppi.. yes it is only 29.25170068 % increase only. i am giving 10% just a reference to why it is so low only.... for your info from 1080 to 4k its 4 times more pixel and to 8k its 16 time more not just below 0.3 times.... its is a gimmick to differentiate between a5 2017 and flagship... wats theuse of 0.3 time increase in pixel???
bro i am an engineer ... u try to talk heat with me??? where is the speaker located?? it is outside the phone far from ic.... for waterproff they will have some insulation to prevent water to go in the phone through the charging hole speaker or any hole u can imagine... where is the heat generate?? of course in the main ic.... can water or bacteria go inside of course no...thats y heat also cannot go out.... so how they dissipate heat ??? of course through heat sink or dual pipe coolant... remember the notoriously high heating snapdragon 810 ?? sony tame the beast by using dual pipe coolant.... search more or ask more knowledge people before commenting....lollll
fraz2000, 29 May 2017I dont know what is your problem or if u have a mental disorder but the reason people choose s... moreOh so your saying the first thing people think of before buying a phone is " Oh which one has the best customer service" by the way Samsung is Korean so what makes it better than china ? Majority of technology is Chinese, Bootloops happens to a good lot of handsets buts it's so simple to resolve yourself.
I just want to ask the people who are saying s8 is ugly and cheap....Guys do you have one if not first make yourself use it then tell whats the problem with it Im it using right now and its the best phone in the market right now but Im not saying that you should upgrade from s7 edge keep in mind
Samsung phones are wildly used, they manufacture from the low to the high end devices. so every ordinary person get a chance. Apple manufacture a single traded phones making it difficult to reach every person in society. They consider only US market, anyway I am an Apple fan as well as Samsung.
An Android user, 29 May 2017Seriously I don't understand how you could say no other phone could compete, on paper xz premi... moreI dont know what is your problem or if u have a mental disorder but the reason people choose samsung/apple over chinese brands is of quality and customer service like in apple if there is a problem with any phone they will replace it with a new one same goes to samsung like they gave free s7 inplace of customer's exploded note 7's.meanwhile when huawei released nexus 6p,customer service was when people faced boot loop while upgrading to nougat.
Ted, 29 May 2017If you don't like Bixby, you can change it to google assistant using the same dedicated button.but how to remap it ?
Suhanoo, 27 May 2017Lol. S8 is ugly! Says someone who uses a phone that can't transfer a simple file to another de... moreSeriously I don't understand how you could say no other phone could compete, on paper xz premium wins, samsung only wins these wars because its "Samsung - just like apple both company's are so overrated especially apple, Samsung haven't really changed nothing this year except the screen same goes for apple every year nothing really new except gimmicks. My dad has an iPhone 7 he never uses 3d touch because I've tried and it just feels unnecessary. Personally these stupid & childish arguments need to stop, I'm a Huawei P10 user by the way this is another company that is underrated like Sony, People are just Brainwashed OMG its a samsung it must be good, Oh look at me I have the phone with the Apple on it, FYI apple user's stop using an iPhone as a fashion statement Suhanno agree with me that's why people own iPhones otherwise why else would they?
Suhanoo, 27 May 2017Those of you who are questioning about the iris scanner, can have a look at the following link... morehttps://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/23/samsung-galaxy-s8-iris-scanner-german-hackers-biometric-security
I would stick to your pin until this problem is resolved.
Frank, 28 May 2017Bixby is useless (I don't live in the USA) Biometrics are flaky - it's quicker just to use th... moreIf you don't like Bixby, you can change it to google assistant using the same dedicated button.
Suhanoo, 29 May 2017"Plastic back phones having coating that feels like glass"? LOL man, LOL. Why don't you enligh... moreBeautifully explained, well said.
I dont think nobody will spend INR 58,000 on any phone without knowing anything about that phone. People are not that much dumb now a days. I have purchased S8 after knowing all the pros and cons then i decided to buy. My money my choice. If anybody dont like then dont purchase. As simple as that. Dont know why few people are unnecessarily wasting their time here to know us about the cons. We know that very well. Ridiculous arguements going on here.
Nick Bekauri, 28 May 2017Galaxy S7 Edge has got 3600 mAh and for Galaxy S8 isn't low 3000 mAh?Enough for me. On my s8, it last 2 to 3 days for normal usage with 4 to 5 hours SOT. Playing heavy games, I got SOT of 3.5 to 4 hours.
Fazsubie, 28 May 2017Do this phone get hot when playing high end android game for 1-2 hour ? No heat issue except if I am playing heavy games with mobile data only.
no name, 29 May 2017i really dont want to reply n argue with u but ur reply is really s.....
please some plasti... more"Plastic back phones having coating that feels like glass"? LOL man, LOL. Why don't you enlighten us with a few names, so we'll know which phones you are talking about. We might get some knowledge and become educated like you.
But then again, it wasn't what you said earlier. You said that S8's glass feels like plastic. Why don't you teach us fools how is it so? Maybe we'll learn something new and start seeing the world in a different angle.
Just mega pixel isn't everything about a camera. First learn about a camera, then come to argue. The sensor plays a major role (we count the mega pixel for the sensor), but the aperture (f-stop), the low light capacity (dual pixels captures more light than single pixel sensors) and the lens quality also matters to get a better picture. That is why DDLRs have separate lenses, to let you get better result from the same camera body. So, when you buy a $200 phone with higher camera resolution, be sure that those phones go nowhere near (at least in the camera section) with a $500+ phone with lower camera resolution. Bring your examples (redmi note4, lenovo makes many models, which one are you talking about?) to compare with phones like Google Pixel, LG G6, Samsung Galaxy S8, Apple iPhone 7+, HTC U11 (any one or all of these, your choice) etc and take pictures and compare them side by side in a computer. You'll see the differences in the noise level, sharpness and clarity of the pictures. And that is where it matters. Any phone can take pictures, it's a good picture that real people want.
Now don't start comparing these phones with DSLRs, they're not as good as them ($800 for just the camera body vs $800 for a phone with camera and lens and everything else). But now a days, any flagship (from any reputed manufacturers) device's camera can defeat any stand alone camera.
Can you count? Sorry, sure you can. Do you know how pixels are calculated? I guess not. Sure, 1440 is merely 33% larger (not 10%. That is why I asked whether you can count or not) than 1080. But that is NOT how they are calculated. 1920*1080=2073600p and 2560*1440=3686400p, which is almost 78% bigger than FHD or 1080. And fyi, who watches video all the time in a phone? Is watching video the only reason people buy a phone? What about the Internet browsing, social networking and playing games, which btw, supports 1440 with ease. And there are more apps with 1440p resolution (2K) than 1080p resolution (1K). Smart phones are not used for watching movies, but for using different apps and games actually.
One more thing. In another comment you said, "to further remind nowadays all phone is waterprooff....heat cannot escape.... even bacteria also cannot go out....." - SERIOUSLY? Where did you go to school? I mean, did you ever study Physics 101? For sound to pass, you need the air to pass through as sound travel through air. If phones are sealed off to keep bacteria inside (as per your comment), then the sound will also not pass through. There are tiny vents for speakers in water resistant phones, through which the air can pass, but not the water. That is, btw, enough for heat (and bacteria, if you consider) to pass through. Last time I checked, bacteria didn't grow much bigger than they were last thousand years, ROFL.
And yes, one of the duty of the back cover is to pass the heat through. This is why Apple uses Aluminium as the back cover rather than glass as it transfer heat better (better heat conductor). So, heat don't get trapped inside. If it would, it would definitely burn the internal parts of the phone.
Anyway, if you're happy with a $200 phone, that's fine with me. But don't come to argue that a $200 phone can compete with a $500+ phone. People are NOT stupid to spend their money without any reason. Yes, if Xiaomi would make a similar phone like S8, they would cost $400 rather than $800. But you should have heard about the brand value, didn't you? It matters.
So please, my advice to you is to Google (means, search) things BEFORE you place your arguements and then talk about the facts, not some things that you've dreamt in your mind. It really puts you as a stupid guy in front of us - we don't wanna see you being stupid, we want everyone to be smart.
Everyone take care. Ciao...