Geoa, 20 May 2021Samsung does not make good rugged phones, all 5 active phones I've owned had problems lik... more"Dont wast your time & money on any Samsung, especially if you need a durable phone, go with Sonim, Kyocera, Cat, Doogee, Ulefone or Blackview. They all make real rugged phones for much less money."
Mrwhosetheboss disagree with you. -> https://youtu.be/J1sIZguHwp0
Geoa, 20 May 2021Samsung does not make good rugged phones, all 5 active phones I've owned had problems lik... moreWhy did you get so many Samsung Actives if you had problems with all of them? And how did the S7 have problems with rain if you never got it wet?
Anyway, I agree on the lack of warranty against liquid damage, unfortunately an all too common policy. I see Sonim covers it as long as the IP-rating conditions were not exceeded - any idea how this works in practice, who has the burden of proof?
The XP8 is a phone I considered in the past, but its user reviews are often negative, mostly about glitchy software. It also costs more than Samsung, at least in Europe, and Sonim does not have much of a presence here.
None of the other brands you mention have the Enterprise Recommended certificate, so their future regarding software updates is uncertain. I have heard good things about Kyocera's durability, but their phones are fairly locked down, non-removable battery, no memory card etc., hard to see as an alternative. CATs are Bullitt Group phones and as such traditionally lousy with software support. Doogee, Ulefone, BV are cheap phones with close to no support network outside China.
Samsung does not make good rugged phones, all 5 active phones I've owned had problems like not actually being water resistant despite the IP68, and not even close to MIL-STD-810G, short drops on carpet and screen has pink lines, caught in the rain and just turns off and never starts again, My S7 Active was babied from new, never dropped or gotten wet and still had those and other problems. The Xcover Pro is $500. and is just not worth it considering just like the active line, is not warranted for water or drop damage, if it's a rugged phone it should be able to withstand water and light drops. I really like the Xcover Fieldpro but at $1,000 its just not worth the risk if a tiny fall or washing off in sink will damage or kill it. All my 8 Kyocera rugged phones are all actually waterproof and sanitized/washed regularly, been dropped on concrete, down flights of stairs and more, but still work 100% years later, and at a much lower price. My daily driver Sonim XP8 is a step above in ruggedness and is not death proof but pretty close, It has endured much more hard use and looks & works perfect years later, even after being run over by 18 wheeler, dropped in gas, cleaned with brake cleaner after dropped in dirty motor oil, and never one problem, The same just cant be said for Samsung, even the regular S series and other phones will develop screen lines, burn in & softwair problems, everyone I know with a Samsung eventually does. Dont wast your time & money on any Samsung, especially if you need a durable phone, go with Sonim, Kyocera, Cat, Doogee, Ulefone or Blackview. They all make real rugged phones for much less money.
Work phone, No problems with it for now, But for that price you can get something better.
Zakalwe, 23 Apr 2021The screen is Gorilla Glass 5, not plastic. AMOLED is susceptible to burn-in and aging, especi... moreLol, I used to have an AMOLED phone but now I use an LCD phone, which feels better for my eyes ngl
4gb's of ram is more than enough for a mobile phone if your phone is lagging it's probably from the battery degrading which unlike 99% of phones you can do something about on this one.
johnny29, 22 Apr 2021howz it possible to admire an absolutely failure .It has a plastic screen no amoled!display on... moreThe screen is Gorilla Glass 5, not plastic. AMOLED is susceptible to burn-in and aging, especially when run at high brightness. IPS LCD like on the XCover Pro is superior for an outdoor phone. Besides, the differences in image quality get overrated on the internet. They are negligible in practice.
The storage is expandable. I have 1TB in mine, few phones can match that. Also, I think you underestimate how much fits into 64GB. An enterprise phone like this is unlikely to have huge games or large media collections. 64GB will be hard to fill without this, and in the rare case where it is a problem, you just expand as needed.
RAM could be larger, I agree. Then again, I have been using it as my main phone for over a year now and it is not lagging, so I do not worry about it becoming problematic anytime soon.
I can understand if it is not a suitable phone for you, but an "absolute failure"? It has what has become a fairly unique combination of features - expandable memory, replaceable battery, ruggedness, headphone jack. To me (and probably many of its owners) that gives the XCover Pro a real-world flexibility and practicality that 99% of phones cannot match. (E.g. Apple has not a single device that can compete with this, no matter how much you pay them.)
howz it possible to admire an absolutely failure .It has a plastic screen no amoled!display only 64 gb and 4 rom with few apps it will be full shortly and start lagging .i know everyone likes the design it doesn't worth it u will get a problematic phone and u gonna regret it,i d consider to buy it only in 150$
sbh, 18 Apr 2021IP68 with removable battery, sd card slot and 3.5 jack finally something that has almost allYes 😊
IP68 with removable battery, sd card slot and 3.5 jack
finally something that has almost all
NICK29, 13 Apr 2021hello did anyone notice the 4g bands are few! whats going one it suppose to be a rugged phone ... more Hello did anyone notice that there is a band of people that is ditching this rather great phone, for whatever reason, and/or any reason that doesn't hold.
Just saying 🙃
hello did anyone notice the 4g bands are few! whats going one it suppose to be a rugged phone to have always signal..big failure
Redskinex, 11 Apr 2021This phone has some SERIOUS issues. I got it issued from my work about two weeks ago over my ... moreI'll second FenCPH, something is broken with your particular phone.
But one addition: There is nothing unique or proprietary about the charging port, it is USB-C, like virtually any modern Android phone.
Yes, this can be annoying if your accessories are still stuck with mini-USB or micro-USB, but USB-C is here to stay and the closest thing to one connector that does everything
Redskinex, 11 Apr 2021This phone has some SERIOUS issues. I got it issued from my work about two weeks ago over my ... moreGet another one.
This one is clearly faulty as you would know if you had cared to read all the positive reviews.
It's a great phone for so many reasons not at least, for environmental reasons.
This phone has some SERIOUS issues. I got it issued from my work about two weeks ago over my previous Galaxy S7. It’s a definite downgrade, here’s why: It has a unique proprietary charging plug, whereas the S series of phones could be charged with the ubiquitous mini USB connections, not this. It regularly freezes and needs rebooting several times a week. The touch screen is exceptionally squirrely, sometimes I have to hit a letter or link many times for it to take, other times it jumps on its own when a finger is just hovering over something by about ½ inch. The touch issues make it REALLY hard to text or compose email. Several simple apps, such as Windfinder, won’t work on this phone. They open for about 2 seconds, then crash. I’ve also had issue with it playing audio, presumably from some video, without any apps open, I had to reboot the phone to get the playback to stop. I’ve owned several android phones and even a couple of I-phones. This is, by far, the absolute worst.
Just a rugged galaxy a21s
James Burkes, 08 Apr 2021see my recent comment. the updates are great. i'm on 11 now. security patches are regularI'll second that. Updates come in on a monthly basis, usually in the first week. I've also had occasional security patches out of the line, I think mid-March was the last one. And the upgrade to Android 11 was pretty smooth.
Chudo, 07 Apr 2021Hey Doug.I would like to know how was your experience with xcover pro in comparison to v20.I a... moresee my recent comment. the updates are great. i'm on 11 now. security patches are regular
Doug Jensen, 05 Jul 2020I like everything about my Xcover Pro--except that spare batteries are still not available. I ... moreHey Doug.I would like to know how was your experience with xcover pro in comparison to v20.I also plan to switch to xcover from my v20 because I use mobile banking on it and I really fear the lack of security updates might compromise it really quick...
Is it worh it?How's the updates (security or system alike) on the xcover,are they regular?
How's the camera?Did you find the replacement batteries availability for excover are now better?
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