dont u read the review on mobile-review?there u will realize why i450 has much bter sonic experience & sound quality than your all around n81!it's NOT a MUSIC PHONE!even n76 has 3.5mm jack but it cant compete with other music phones..music phones from nokia are either in the expressmusic or the music edition category!n91 is a music edition phone, u can even see it their advertisement..even nokia technicians & sales agents admit n81 is NOT a music, it's only you who keep on bragging it is!
Why would someone buy that outdated brick??? I know about N81 and other newer music phones EU Restriction, N81 Sound Quality is still very much on par with N91 main difference is volume, N91 is much louder via headphones.
i450 and N81 are the new high end music phones, why would someone buy the N91 over them when the sound quality is basicaly on par with N91.
N91 and N81 both phones have Toshiba DAC-33 sound chip.but if you listen both phones with good pair of headset you will find that N91 8GB is far better than in terms of sound quality and their sonic experiences.Its because of higher range of amplifier,N81 have a EU Volume Restriction thats why its not sounding like great N91 8GB .So conclusion is N91 8GB is rulz always.
OFFCOURSE its not an Xpress Music category phone BECAUSE ITS AN Nseries!! Both N81 and N91 ARE High-end Music Phones. N91 was not Xpress music either, XpressMusic phones are the budget Music Phones, 5700 being the Flagship XpressMusic device, AND THE N81 being The Flagship MUSIC phone in NOKIA so its better than 5700.
LOL! You phoned them? Those customer services employees don't know much in the 1st place. The Q&A N81 Discussion With the NOKIA N81 PRODUCT MANAGER has the proper details. N81 is mainly a Music, Gaming and Video phone.
Why would NOKIA implement dedicated music keys, an expensive Toshiba DAC-33 DSP sound chip, Multimedia navi-wheel, 3.5mm jack, Music Player waiting in background and a sliding lock and then not call it a music phone? GET REAL! Its obviously a music phone as well.
You never answered my question,how much RAM does i450 have after boot?
I am usnsing nokiya from long time and all family member and friends but i listen that samsung intorduce i450 with software support and easy menu like nokia first time i will change my brand but .. This phone is making me wait too long! Very bad for customers like me. They're trying to impose a ridiculous market strategy. I'm waiting anymore! I guess I'll have to buy a Nokia N81 or n95 and never i and my family members touch samsung cause from october 2007 i am waiging up to march 3008 in india. now how much i have to wait please reply me it is availabel in other country except india..
From mobile-review.com http://www.mobile-review.com/review/samsung-i450-en.shtml
The i450 also utilizes the B&O’s IceMobile amplifier, which automatically puts it in one row with most latest and greatest Samsung-branded offerings – both those positioned as music-minded solutions and no-frills devices.
Anticipating the conclusion found in the section of the sonic experience delivered by the i450, I shall say that I found this phone’s sound quality to be pretty decent, and definitely not worse than that of a stand-alone music player. Also, I faced it off against the Apple iPhone and didn’t really notice any tremendous differences in this department; furthermore, the Samsung’s solution would outdo the iPhone pretty often, so in my opinion, this is one of the market’s best music-inclined offerings as far as music quality is concerned. This thesis has also been proven by our battery of tests.
Generally speaking, the i450 has no direct competition as of today, except for the Nokia N81 (the junior memory card-based model). These two have many options on their respective spec sheets in common, like price (360 Euro), OS version, and similarly sized memory cards shipping with them. Among Nokia’s trumps are the N-Gage functionality and a couple of demo games on board, plus Wi-Fi connectivity, while the Samsung’s offspring has only sound quality going for it.
i agree..n81 is an all around phone, just like n95..it can play music but not the kind of quality i450 plays..it's not even in the xpressmusic category of Nokia where they put their best music phones..
some people really want to complicate things..even Nokia doesnt consider N81 a music phone..i called them already...
N81 is NOT u music phone although it's good in handling it!You can even check the nokia website or ask some nokia people.or get some brochures!and even in TV commercial, nokia doesnt put emphasis in music as far as n81 is concerned!it's an all around phone with gaming capabilities & wi-fi..Samsung i450 is THE Music Phone..Don't believe in some nokia freaks out there who gives you a different stroy..
i450 is a better phone when it comes to music..you can check the review on mobile-review.com & other websites..the audio in the speaker & in the headset is of very high quality..only the n91 of Nokia can be compared with this one..
You are wrong. A high-end music phone LIKE N81 and i450 SHOULD have WiFi for DOWNLOADING music, after all its all about having AND DOWNLOADING music on the go. Wireless is a lot better and most major cities, restaurants, hotels etc. . . can see this and so having a Music phone WITH WiFi is great a PLUS.
By the way N81 has 26MB internal memory NOT 12MB GSMArena made an error there, but lets get real who uses the internal mem that much? My old N80 had 45mb internal and i only used it for messages and Opera.
N81 is a GAMING, VIDEO AND MUSIC phone, not just music. Get over it N81 is the better music phone, even its Music keys are well placed, Ngage is an added bonus,so is the well placed 3.5mm jack.
N81 369mhz Cpu Freescale
i450 330mhz Cpu OMAP2431
N81 clearly better with its Freescale chip, i450 has a waterd down OMAP2 chip.
I just bought the i450, but when i playing music, i can't heard the SMS sound come in. Only vibration. Please help. Thanks
I agree with some guys here that i450 is better than N81... the built in memory of i450 is 40mb while the N81 sucks for its 12mb memory. Wi-fi is not that necessary for a music phone, if you want Wi-fi then choose another model! Its that simple. Also, the sound of this phone is much better compared to N81... i think because this phone is really built for music lovers and not for GAMING! If you want gaming, buy N81... if you like high quality music, then i really recommend this phone.
BTW, don't compare the i450 with the N81-8gb because it has a huge memory capacity.
No its not, don't you understand? N91 and N81 have THE SAME DAC-33 DSP SOUND CHIP! They are the same at sound quality.
No i450 is missing WiFi so already its NOT better than N81.
i450 is better than n81..dont make it complicated..the hardware is better & the music quality is unmatched..
n91 is still the best music phone from nokia..
Anyone Plz Tell Me..
Thee Samsung mobiles which comes with Symbion OS would support 3rd party softwares like Nokia's..?
plz e-mail to me...
I been reading the review of some comparing the Music qualities and speaker of the phone. Well, I am the owner of the both i450 and N81 8GB, just like to share my personal experiances over the speaker output from the phone. Both are suck ... i450 do not produce the stereo feel and N81 stereo speaker at both side are so bassless. But via a good earphone both fair each other and I was rather surprise that i450 sound qualities throught the ear phone, especially via bluethooth stereo earphone. N81 kind of soft when use bluethooth stereo earphone.
Well both are good phone and both and their pro and con, I will just fair it on my own opinion.
Camera: i450 is better than N81
set speaker: both are too improve, but loudness goes to i450.
music qualities: I still prefer N81
Battery life: N81 is more lasting.
Overall: N81 had more function that I450 do not have, such as GPS / Wifi and of course the 8 GB flash memory.
there are for difference user hence please do not compare against N81 8GB which are the high end phone than i450, but for Samsung lover, i 450 will stand out comparing with the rest of Samsung phone such as F series and the music series.
N81 is positioned as a Music AND Gaming phone!! Yes your little i450 is lighter, so what? You weak? 140g is actualy VERY light. N81 carries the same Toshiba DAC-33 DSP sound chip as N91 so they are the same at sound quality SO GET OVER IT N81 IS BETTER!
CorePlayer was free for me,wont say where i got it, and its NOT just to play WMV its to play MPEG-2 videos and other codecs that even your little i450 WONT TAKE!!
Oh trust me the diff between 330mhz and 369mhz is VERY noticeable when playing games, vides etc. . .
Further more nowhere days people buy better headphones like BOSE, Senhieser, Shure etc. . . You haven't seen the N81-8GB SP Edition have you? It comes with BOSE headphones.
Also N81 has better stand by plug-ins and display showing that its a true Symbian S60 os9.2 FP-1 phone, whereas i450 is still missing some and is a wana be.
Doesn't make much of a difference if the connectors are exposed or not because at the end of the day dust goes in EITHER way theres no stopping it so i realy don't understand why you keep whinning on about N81 not having the covers.
GSMArena have already said i450 speakers are not well positioned and i agree they are placed incorrectly for when you want the slider closed.
i disagree, design wise, i450 looks a lot better.the connectors are properly covered unlike your n81 & your usb socket is always exposed unlike my i450..i450 is also lighter & no, the audio it produced is far better than 81..in fact, nokia did not position n81 as a music phone...it's more of a gaming phone bcoz of the ngage..and oh, u have to download a core player to play a simple wmv file?i doubt if u can get it for free and even if you do, that's a hassle already..
and regarding the CPU, i450 uses 330mhz while n81 has the 369mhz..it's not much of a difference..my phone is so snappy..even faster than my previous 6110 navigator..hey, i like nokia too...but i admit, this symbian phone from samsung beats all slider of nokia except the n95..
u can read the review in mobile-review.com so you'll know that i450 is the best music phone right now except perhaps for the old n91/n91 8gb..and oh, almost everybody uses the default headset..it's a hassleto buy a seperate one especially if u buy a so-called music phone..well, n81 is not a music phone so u probably have an excuse why its headset is of dismal quality... :-)
What is special with this weired speaker? is the sound really much louder than other competitors ?
Sorry you're wrong, N81 is a lot better,and the speakers are better positioned than i450. I agree that i450 has better headphones in package but honestly who still uses default headset??
The i450 and N81 have similar sound quality, although N81 has better noise reduction, BOTH N81 and i450 are better in sound than N95, THATS A FACT.
Your mate is lost, he obviously doesn't know how to put his N81 to better use.
WMV we've got CorePlayer for that. Much better navi-wheel, better CPU, Ngage etc. . . N81 is CLEARLY better
How much RAM does i450 have after boot anyway?
i forgot, my i450 plays WMV files while his n81 cant..he will need a a 3rd party software to do that..and i450 has a better headset in the package...and ofcourse, the sound in the headset is better than n81 - even better than n95 8GB of my other ofcmates..ofcors n95 is the KING..but between n81 and i450? - i450 handsdown - the mixture of samsung hardware & symbian software is totally unmatched..