Samsung G810 was awarded best camera phone in EUROPE..... It doesnt use Carl Zeiss lens..... SE fans get away from this forum..... C905 is a flop handset
Sex Machine, 22 Aug 2008Shut up dude you dont know what you're saying. The camera of this phone sucks, if you would co... moreObviously the Sony camera will be better, since it's made for taking pictures, and taking pictures only [well, I guess video, too, but not as much so as a camcorder].
The INNOV8 was made to do more than just take pictures, so they had to sacrifice camera performance compared to an SLR camera or even a Point-and-Shoot.
Have you noticed the size difference between the camera on the INNOV8 compared to an SLR?
Also, Samsung has dual-slider phones [I'm not sure if Nokia or Samsung was first, but still, they both have dual-sliders]. So, saying "Theres something else....such as why would they only copy a part of the design and not the whole part...lets say the DUAL-SLIDE...blah blah blah" is quite pointless.
Maybe Samsung thinks the dual slide design is useless because the INNOV8 has auto-rotation [so you don't have to slide down to rotate the screen], and because the front buttons work just as well as the extra multimedia keys of the N95 and N96.
Saying "...this phone SUCKS because it has the same goddam design as my Nokia n95 8GB..." is also irrelevant because 1) the INNOV8 and N95 8gb don't have the same design, and 2) all upright slider phones are bound to look somewhat the same.
Seriously, the N95 and N95 8gb have the same [actually, similar] design, but the INNOV8 doesn't have the same design as the N95 8gb by a long shot. Just because the phones looks semi-similar [I don't see any resemblance], doesn't mean they have the same design. If the INNOV8 looked even similar to the iPhone, you'd say it had the same design as the iPhone.
I don't think any of these Samsung fans are going to report your comment [I, personally, am a Nokia fan - not fanatic], because they will like to read your comment over and over thinking about how stupid you sound.
So I say; shut up dude, YOU don't know what you're saying.
uh uh.., 21 Aug 2008errr..well i do i gree that the picture quality is better on that one lol. why are we debat... moreShut up dude you dont know what you're saying. The camera of this phone sucks, if you would compare a 8MP with Carl Zeiss lens of a Sony camera you'll see whats best. If Nokia get his 8MP camera which they would eventually, you'll see how Samsung would fail due to the lens that they use arent CARL ZEISS. Thanks.
Wow, what a response on my little comment. Amazing how upset some people can get over a little opinion. Thanks to the other people for being mature and supporting my comment.
I never said this was a bad phone, i said the camera should't be the main buying factor, then you will probably walk around and expect far more then you are really getting. The other software on the phone should be a buying factor, cause it is packed with features. I´m not a samsung, nokia, ericsson, apple, htc hater/lover or whatever childish camps or gerilla fractions you are divided into, i have too much of a real life to get upset over stuff some people here are getting upset over. It's a forum for opinions. If you can't answer and write in a civilized manner with mature arguments, then don't write at all.
Kodakmaster has a good point on this phone's cam and a real camera. And nowhere did claim using iphone to compare it to this samsung unit. It looks like some with negative posts towards Kodakmaster should take their opinions and stick it where their eyes are for not reading posts properly.
This phone is great for taking pictures and has plenty of uses as a phone. But no cam phones will rival real cameras, which are used for professional photos. And if you believe that cam phones yield better quality than real cams you're just kidding yourself.
There are tests performed on every products before they hit the market, and any real professionals in photography will tell you that cam phones are for amateur photography, nothing more.
First off, this phone is a copy of other better phones out there. It just happens to come out sooner than some other better ones ie. SE C905 and the new phone from HTC pro for texting lovers. The camera boasts an 8MP cam but only comes with a LED flash, which is a total letdown. Second, this phone is NOT the first one out with 8MP like some morons put it. 8MP cams phones were already out a while ago, which were not available in some countries like yours. So, this Samsung phone is NOT "the first in the world" 8MP phone at all. Third, only get this phone if your wallet gets impulsive and stupid. The upcoming SE and HTC phones will put false rumors to rest once and for all. As for Nokia, they have dropped the ball on 8MP idea and focused onto other things they deem more important. And yes, 10MP on phones will be the highest standard on cell phones, at least for a while. You wouldn't want a bigger cam anyway as it would be more like a cam than a phone in your hand.
What kind of browser does this phone have????
Is it Opera like in nokia?
look like a great phone, whatever you say, that 8mp camera is gonne own!
nice toy if you wanne spend a thousand bukes on a phone.
everybody is talking about the mp in the camera... nobody is even mentioning that it takes 1 min everytime you want access image and media files on a samsung... you press a button on a image and then have to wait for a day... terrible lagging in accessing phone memory on samsung phones... as even encountered by the review... and by the way... its the software that does most of the job in making it a 8 mp shot... it is impossible for such a small lens to get a real 8 mp shot... what about the same signature Pods and Tebs blaming people for being wannabes and imature when the person himself talks like a retard... he is probably exactly what he is describing other people as...
bl, 21 Aug 2008i just wont say: compare this camera and camera of nokia n95 8Gb and youll see apsolutlly diff... moreerrr..well i do i gree that the picture quality is better on that one lol.
why are we debating about mp i think it's clear, the phone has the best camera yet tested on a phone..soo err..mp or not it does not really matter.
kodakmaster that was really useless to start something about it lol marketing trick or not..this phone has the best camera.
well, i think kodakmaster has a point...
if ever you've opened up a phone, and looked at the lense, you'll kinda agree.
but then again, as long as you have 1mp, you'll be able to blow the photo up to A4 right? even if, the quality is the same as a 5mp one, it's still good then.
BTW, I think this is an awesome phone.
Omnia's good, but this, I think is great...(yes I like Symbian better than WM)
I recon HTC and Nokia are both gonna be in trouble.
PS:sorry for my bad spelling, English isn't my first language...
nice try to copy nokia n96... really bad... this phone hasnt xenon flash... bad,bad,bad... i am sick of that... but also nice pictures, taked with this phone, here on site... ;)
uh huh.., 20 Aug 2008yes of course..megapixel does not really mean much as stated also by someone in the past..i fo... morei just wont say: compare this camera and camera of nokia n95 8Gb and youll see apsolutlly different pictures... more better quality on this phone... but video is (i think) the same!
i think what they should work towards is a 5 megapix with a better lens...although it would be chunkier......might have an advantage for people that likes taking pictures more with a phone on the side.....instead of the other way around...
noen the less pretty cool phone!
8mp camera, wifi, 8 to 16gb storage, large screen.... yummy... this is the phone i have been waiting for... hope the price won't be too high..
the 8mp photo quality is already proved by both GSM Arena and Mobile Review. So i believe its quite good. No need to argue.
megapixels arent everything isnt it? ^_^
not that innov8 isnt a great cameraphone its just to clear alot of things up hehehe
podge, 21 Aug 2008@ KODAKMASTER "it doesn't really matter if you put a 20mp into the software.." why do you ... moreNot entirely true. The amount of pixels depends on two things, the image sensor and the processing software. If the sensor is 8MP and the software can only handle 4MP then you will get a 4MP image. The lens is irrelevant to image size, just to image quality.